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Monaghan Vs Tyrone

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Replying To TearsIn85:  "Just in from game.

Hard to believe Tyrone didn't win by more. Every time they went forward, they looked like they could cut Monaghan defence open. Often, when Monaghan went forward, the turned around, went backwards, then brought the ball into contact and lost it. Excellent defence from Tyrone again.Good luck in the final."
The game was on a knife edge right up to the end, Monaghan made some puzzling decisions which ultimately cost you. I thought the game was played in a good competitive spirit and to be quite honest had Monaghan nicked it in the end I would have had no complaints,

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 12/08/2018 19:53:04    2132385

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It was a very strange game, think both teams were very nervous and played nowhere near their best. Tyrone looked like they were going to blow Monaghan away at the start but kicked some bad wides which affected their confidence. Monaghan must be kicking themselves, despite playing badly they could have won it. Their build up play was too slow and they kept getting turned over. Conor McCarthy had a fine game for them.

Tyrone are a very hard team to make out, at times they can play breath taking football and look like they can just blow teams away, other times they look very ordinary. Been a great season for them though. Colm Cavanagh was immense today, must be the easiest choice for man of the match in a game this season. If Tyrone can play a 70 plus minute game like the opening 10 today they could give Dublin a good game.

Hard luck to Monaghan and best of luck to Tyrone in the final.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 12/08/2018 19:58:25    2132389

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Nerve wrecking game. Good win for Tyrone with Colm Cavanagh, Peter Harte and Tiernan Mc Cann very good. The one off goal was critical of course.

I thought the ref did ok. The main complaint there seems to be Monaghan didn't get a free at the end but was there even a foul made for Monaghan to get a free from? The other decisions probably evened out and at the end Tyrone got a goal from a half chance which was the winning of the game.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 12/08/2018 19:58:43    2132390

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Replying To tyroneed:  "Nerve wrecking game. Good win for Tyrone with Colm Cavanagh, Peter Harte and Tiernan Mc Cann very good. The one off goal was critical of course.

I thought the ref did ok. The main complaint there seems to be Monaghan didn't get a free at the end but was there even a foul made for Monaghan to get a free from? The other decisions probably evened out and at the end Tyrone got a goal from a half chance which was the winning of the game."
Never a free at the end I agree.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 12/08/2018 20:03:53    2132392

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Interesting in the form of proof you have but I believe you and waynol. Facts are Tyrone missed so many easy chances in game and contrary to Lee Keegan had as many of not more goal chances. Monaghan were in lead for 2 minutes in whole game. Not sure how you think the way you do? In saying all that I'm a big fan of Monaghan and ORourke - to do what they've done with this team in past 5 years is extraordinary. They have one of the smallest panels in Div 1 and compete both in league and championship - Tyrone were tested big time here and will stand to them for the final. They need to polish up on their finishing and try and perfect this high line game - they have the fitness to play his way - whether or not it's enough for Dubs remains to be seen."
What do you mean by "interesting", I know Wayne a little bit now from being at Dublin matches we text and stuff , I sent him an old picture of me in a team photo with my club and if you can see where I'm from there was a famous face also in the team photo I think you know who I'm talking about, lee Keegan was wrong Tyrone missed chances cause Monaghan defenders were all over them and their kicks went short , Monaghan missed two clear goals chances in the first half and kicked 7 wides (so did Tyrone) Monaghan had 58% possession in the second half and imo took the game to Tyrone and were the better team , but tbf there wasn't much in it either way. I'm not being anti at all why would I be anti to Tyrone we beat them all the time now if it's Kerry or Mayo maybe I can be anti against them

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 12/08/2018 20:12:34    2132395

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "What do you mean by "interesting", I know Wayne a little bit now from being at Dublin matches we text and stuff , I sent him an old picture of me in a team photo with my club and if you can see where I'm from there was a famous face also in the team photo I think you know who I'm talking about, lee Keegan was wrong Tyrone missed chances cause Monaghan defenders were all over them and their kicks went short , Monaghan missed two clear goals chances in the first half and kicked 7 wides (so did Tyrone) Monaghan had 58% possession in the second half and imo took the game to Tyrone and were the better team , but tbf there wasn't much in it either way. I'm not being anti at all why would I be anti to Tyrone we beat them all the time now if it's Kerry or Mayo maybe I can be anti against them"
58% possession means little if it's back and forth. Tyrone had a number of goal chances but pundits only comment on the Monaghan ones - Tyrone had many scoreble chances with very little defensive pressure from Monaghan but took wrong options - let's not have selective analysis. I do agree with Brolly in that they need to just calm down a bit and the scores will come. Monaghan on the other hand didn't expect Tyrone's change in tactic in first half - but one thing you can't say about Monaghan is they don't have heart - they are an example to many counties - they don't feel inferior to anyone and are an example - if they can add to the squad with some of their young talent coming thru they will continue to be the force of nature they have been for last number of years and as jacko says you sometimes have to lose a semi to get into a final - Tyrone had lost 4 since their 2008 success so maybe it was just their turn today.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 12/08/2018 20:25:09    2132408

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Anyway well done to Tyrone for reaching the final great achievement by Mickey Harte and his team.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 12/08/2018 20:46:02    2132415

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we will be back next year stronger and better but good luck to tyrone in the final

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 12/08/2018 21:11:04    2132420

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The game could have gone either way and little between the sides. Monaghan had at least 3 occasions to level the match in the last couple of minutes but players kicked the ball away. Though that the Ref was one of the better ones I've seen all year and did not give out any black cards -was balanced to both sides.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 12/08/2018 21:17:42    2132423

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I was surprised that Tyrone went at Monaghan at the start, they should have kept at that, they went back into themselves. It was quite bizarre that Monaghan played so slowly at times when Tyrone were committing forward and leaving space behind.

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 12/08/2018 21:28:08    2132427

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Thought Tyrone should have been well ahead at half time, some terrible shot choices and poor kicking, 7 wides and 5 short, Dubs will eat us up at that rate. Impressed with how Tyrone played though, bar the finishing.

Thought they lacked composure/confidence at end when needing to hold possesion, wasn't too many guys looking the ball, and nearly threw the lead away as a result.

But bring on the Dubs, f#$k it in to them from the start and see how it goes.

Dermoot (Tyrone) - Posts: 46 - 12/08/2018 21:29:09    2132428

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You would have to be gutted as a Monaghan fan. I don't buy into this small county/population, other counties of a similar size have had success. They may return to this stage again but looking at some of the Monaghan team today I feel they are going in the opposite direction to this Tyrone team. Tyrone were there for the taking but getting to an All Ireland final will do wonders for them over the next few years. I thought Monaghan would deliver big time and win by a few points. The biggest thing that hit me was around the 60th minute. Monaghan went a point up, I thought their crowd was going to invade the pitch and smiles all around on the bench. At that point I thought Tyrone have this, Monaghan are dreaming of the finish too early. Concentration subsequently cost them the goal. Great effort by this Monaghan team, and they will he in the mix up again next year. But without trying to knock a county when they are down I think the best team somehow managed to lose today. Good luck to Tyrone, it would be some achievement if MH delivers Sam in three weeks time.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 12/08/2018 21:29:16    2132429

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Replying To browncows:  "The game could have gone either way and little between the sides. Monaghan had at least 3 occasions to level the match in the last couple of minutes but players kicked the ball away. Though that the Ref was one of the better ones I've seen all year and did not give out any black cards -was balanced to both sides."
not giving a black card is hardly a reliable indicator. There was an obvious one today and he missed it. Just like he missed cavanaghs dive. Ref was really poor today - he cost monaghan a draw at the very least

footballfirst (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 12/08/2018 21:36:58    2132432

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Well done Tyrone and good luck in the final.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2756 - 12/08/2018 22:05:52    2132443

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Colm Cavanagh who was outstanding all game today gets the ball in the 2nd half runs straight into a Monaghan man throws his legs up in the air (diving) and gets a free in hard to believe, James McCarthy does the same thing yesterday without the dive and is given a free out for barging, basically the referee is telling all players to dive now cause if you're honest you get punished , shocking call and imo the ref gave some shockers against Monaghan. Not having blinkers on cause will hammer Tyrone in the final so I didn't care who won.


I personally thought Monaghan were the better team and should of won that game I couldn't understand were the studio panel saying Tyrone were way better I didn't see it that way at all.keeroer at the end my god he really was believing his own hope trying to be the hero ridiculous decision completely let his team down."
Agree 100%, Monaghan were better team, and studio panel were ridiculous.
Dublin by at least 5 points ( and that's being generous to Tyrone)

Bosco98 (Galway) - Posts: 127 - 12/08/2018 22:56:10    2132470

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "What do you mean by "interesting", I know Wayne a little bit now from being at Dublin matches we text and stuff , I sent him an old picture of me in a team photo with my club and if you can see where I'm from there was a famous face also in the team photo I think you know who I'm talking about, lee Keegan was wrong Tyrone missed chances cause Monaghan defenders were all over them and their kicks went short , Monaghan missed two clear goals chances in the first half and kicked 7 wides (so did Tyrone) Monaghan had 58% possession in the second half and imo took the game to Tyrone and were the better team , but tbf there wasn't much in it either way. I'm not being anti at all why would I be anti to Tyrone we beat them all the time now if it's Kerry or Mayo maybe I can be anti against them"
An experienced team like Monaghan should have used the fist to knock over points on each of occasions that 'goal' chances presented themselves as on each occasion the ball hadn't fallen just right for the goal.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 12/08/2018 23:13:39    2132473

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Monaghan had the game for the taking in the last quarter but Tyrone just hit the pedal and for 8 intensive minutes they won that game. When our goalie was out on the 45 as an extra player leaving 4of his own team behind him I knew it was over bar the final whistle. The ref got calls right and calls wrong but tit for tat it was levelled out. Dublin will be a bigger animal for Tyrone but good luck to them in the final. I know that their management and team are delighted to make the final but are not jubilant about it being at the price of their neighbours. Anyone know will this game be shown on TV tomorrow night?

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 12/08/2018 23:23:37    2132475

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Thought Tyrone were the better team. Should of blown them away in the first half. Ref wasn't too bad I thought. The main gripe seemed to be the red putting his hand up at the end. There was no free at the end. K Hughes didn't even claim it was.
Unlucky to Monaghan. You will be back

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 13/08/2018 00:22:14    2132490

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Replying To footballfirst:  "not giving a black card is hardly a reliable indicator. There was an obvious one today and he missed it. Just like he missed cavanaghs dive. Ref was really poor today - he cost monaghan a draw at the very least"
There may have been a black card deserved for each side but who am I, or yourself to know- the foul has to be intentional which means the Ref needs to be a mind reader. Though his decisions were balanced and Monaghan have only themselves to blame- some computer warriors like yourself may think otherwise. By the way I would have liked to see Monaghan winning.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 13/08/2018 01:21:56    2132500

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Thought we at least were good enough for a draw.

Have no issues with Tyrone, have with the ref but what's the point. Good luck to them in the final, will need to take all their chances though.

Disappointed for our own lads, did us proud and gave all they had all year. In line for 3 possibility 4 deserved all stars

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 13/08/2018 09:41:34    2132545

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