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First year of super 8's and Kerry don't make a semi final. Canavan is right and is probably talking for counties who have had unfair paths in years gone by. The days of Kerry walking into the last 4 in first gear seem to be a thing of the past. Super 8's if nothing else ensures fairness, it might prove to an unpopular change in Kerry going forward. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 04/08/2018 20:15:27 2129037 Link
I thought this was another thread on an RTE programme people in the North couldn't see :) Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 04/08/2018 20:35:08 2129046 Link
Replying To sam1884: "First year of super 8's and Kerry don't make a semi final. Canavan is right and is probably talking for counties who have had unfair paths in years gone by. The days of Kerry walking into the last 4 in first gear seem to be a thing of the past. Super 8's if nothing else ensures fairness, it might prove to an unpopular change in Kerry going forward." Couldn't agree more the days of playing 3 games to win an all-ireland are thankfully long gone. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 04/08/2018 20:37:12 2129048 Link
Was wondering how long it'd take for the obligatory 'kick kerry' when they've just exited the championship thread, not long it seems. Kerry would have come out of that group most years but we are integrating half a new team and have a manager that has lost his senior players as far as I can see. This is not a typical kerry team. Kerry will be back and there'll be more reasons made up to have a go at us then I'm sure. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 04/08/2018 20:37:58 2129049 Link
Replying To sam1884: "First year of super 8's and Kerry don't make a semi final. Canavan is right and is probably talking for counties who have had unfair paths in years gone by. The days of Kerry walking into the last 4 in first gear seem to be a thing of the past. Super 8's if nothing else ensures fairness, it might prove to an unpopular change in Kerry going forward." Nah I'm good with this new system, in fairness at least now we'll find out early if we're not good enough and it'll save us long journeys to Dublin. Im saving at least €250 by not going up next weekend and for what? A hockeying off the dubs. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/08/2018 20:43:46 2129053 Link
Replying To jacktheDub: "Couldn't agree more the days of playing 3 games to win an all-ireland are thankfully long gone." With about 30 years I'd say, you must be really old. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/08/2018 20:47:29 2129057 Link
Kerry are gone, One all ireland since 2009, But theyve a terrific young panel full of potential. They wont be down for long. Kerry will be contesting and indeed, winning, all irelands again very soon. Alot of people kicking them now would only love to have the potential they have, and the traditions they live by. Dublin, Galway, Donegal, Tyrone, Monaghan. 5 left standing, 4 after tomorrow, Dublin still the team to beat and are in a wonderful moment that people also wont appreciate. Fact of the matter is, Dublin and Kerry are the GAAs biggest footballing superpowers, One is making hay in recent years, the other will be back to challenge among the Dublins and one or two others of this island in the very near future. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 04/08/2018 20:56:43 2129064 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Was wondering how long it'd take for the obligatory 'kick kerry' when they've just exited the championship thread, not long it seems. Kerry would have come out of that group most years but we are integrating half a new team and have a manager that has lost his senior players as far as I can see. This is not a typical kerry team. Kerry will be back and there'll be more reasons made up to have a go at us then I'm sure." Very good point by canavan; more of an even playing field and fight for the big games is definite benefit of the super 8's; ps no need to wallow in self pity it's just a valid point and not kicking Kerry when they are down; Sean o shea and Clifford look super talents for the future; John O'Donoghue has been dissapointing he looked a super talent; still young and can come again hithimhard (Tyrone) - Posts: 20 - 04/08/2018 21:11:18 2129079 Link
If I'm honest I do think it makes the whole thing fairer, I won't focus on one county, but the provincial system has been fairer or unfair for a long time for many counties. This goes a way to making the championship more equitable and given the interprovincial redistribution across the fixtures maybe this system promotes a real All Ireland and the best team will always win, just no long grass to hide really. It's interesting that Ulster has come out the strongest. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/08/2018 21:24:25 2129088 Link
Replying To hithimhard: "Very good point by canavan; more of an even playing field and fight for the big games is definite benefit of the super 8's; ps no need to wallow in self pity it's just a valid point and not kicking Kerry when they are down; Sean o shea and Clifford look super talents for the future; John O'Donoghue has been dissapointing he looked a super talent; still young and can come again" Wallowing in self pity? Hardly. I'm fine with where we are and full of optimism for the future. As pointed out by yourself and Waynol we have good young players and with the right managerial appointment we'll be back. What i find amusing is lads like the OP who think it's the new structure that caught us this year. It's not, we simply aren't good enough at the moment. Best of luck tomorrow btw. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 04/08/2018 21:37:49 2129091 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Wallowing in self pity? Hardly. I'm fine with where we are and full of optimism for the future. As pointed out by yourself and Waynol we have good young players and with the right managerial appointment we'll be back. What i find amusing is lads like the OP who think it's the new structure that caught us this year. It's not, we simply aren't good enough at the moment. Best of luck tomorrow btw." The new structure will actually work in Kerry's favour, the 7-8 debutants this year, along with the likes of Barry, O'Beagloiach and McCarthy who are still early in their careers, have just had 3 championship games against top counties in 4 weeks. The Super 8's will speed up the development of this Kerry side, rather than hindering it. expe (UK) - Posts: 31 - 04/08/2018 21:56:02 2129101 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "If I'm honest I do think it makes the whole thing fairer, I won't focus on one county, but the provincial system has been fairer or unfair for a long time for many counties. This goes a way to making the championship more equitable and given the interprovincial redistribution across the fixtures maybe this system promotes a real All Ireland and the best team will always win, just no long grass to hide really. It's interesting that Ulster has come out the strongest." Your correct there. Ulster is still the most competitive province and its now proving to be an asset in the new system. There's 3 ulster counties still very much in this competition tonight. Unfortunately we will loose one tomorrow but whichever one stays is going to have a huge say in this competition. Its about time that this whole lob sided competition eventually rolled in ulster's favour. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 04/08/2018 21:56:58 2129102 Link
Kerry weren't good enough this year. They'd have gotten through to the semifinals every other year regardless of the format. The big thing about the format is that the top 2 teams will be in the final. Galway have to play Dublin because they weren't as good as Monaghan. There'll be an Ulster team in their too and whichever one it is will be well worth their place. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4228 - 04/08/2018 22:02:08 2129108 Link
Not an anti Kerry rant but the Super 8 means that Kerry are just going to have to work that little bit harder for their obligatory semi final place. brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 04/08/2018 22:02:38 2129109 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Wallowing in self pity? Hardly. I'm fine with where we are and full of optimism for the future. As pointed out by yourself and Waynol we have good young players and with the right managerial appointment we'll be back. What i find amusing is lads like the OP who think it's the new structure that caught us this year. It's not, we simply aren't good enough at the moment. Best of luck tomorrow btw." That's it Gerry, Tim Murphy needs to get the right man for the job, ( not jack o'connor ) We need someone who knows what's coming through from underage and someone with a tactical brain, I know who I want. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/08/2018 22:02:46 2129111 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Was wondering how long it'd take for the obligatory 'kick kerry' when they've just exited the championship thread, not long it seems. Kerry would have come out of that group most years but we are integrating half a new team and have a manager that has lost his senior players as far as I can see. This is not a typical kerry team. Kerry will be back and there'll be more reasons made up to have a go at us then I'm sure." Yeah but come on genius its kerry so a good kicking every now and then is well deserved!! Equineburger (Mayo) - Posts: 30 - 04/08/2018 22:23:42 2129125 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "That's it Gerry, Tim Murphy needs to get the right man for the job, ( not jack o'connor ) We need someone who knows what's coming through from underage and someone with a tactical brain, I know who I want." Peter Keane??? jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 04/08/2018 22:45:41 2129137 Link
No Munster team in the semi-finals? That must be a first. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 04/08/2018 22:48:27 2129138 Link
Replying To Equineburger: "Yeah but come on genius its kerry so a good kicking every now and then is well deserved!!" Absolutely, it's a compliment in a way. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 04/08/2018 22:57:19 2129148 Link
Kerry (through their own skill & endeavours) have an unparalleled All Ireland series pedigree. Kerry (through geographical reasons not of their making) play in a provincial championship that, arguably, is the least competitive. Both statements coexist. We're in the foothills of the super 8s, and regardless of this year's outcomes, all can see the Kingdom's future potential. There's been a number of Gaels in the past who have posed the question of whether Kerry would have succeeded in the Ulster championship to the extent they succeeded in Munster. We'll never know. But a Kerry panel playing 5 championship games and not getting to a semi final will be a new, sobering, experience. History will judge this Super8 differently to many of the so called expert commentators: Monaghan didn't win it in Galway; Kerry lost it in Clones. Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 357 - 04/08/2018 23:40:24 2129164 Link