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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "Don't feed the troll lads.....based on some of his contributions on other threads simply trying to rise people........"
Yes.. The 'Royal' seems to have less to do with Tara and more to do with Buckingham Palace.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 31/07/2018 19:50:24    2128001

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "Yes.. The 'Royal' seems to have less to do with Tara and more to do with Buckingham Palace."
Hahaha. Yeah that's it. When u back to school?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/07/2018 20:40:39    2128013

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Replying To Tadhgmacda:  "Ok I get it now, you are a WUM. Happy fishing."
My 10 + years in hogan stand I have never pretended to like whack it anywhere with a stick game. I'm not gonna start now. If you do. I have no problem, but don't try to force those of us who find it boring to like it. It's a free country, we are a Republic aren't we ??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/07/2018 20:43:35    2128014

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Hahaha. Yeah that's it. When u back to school?"
I'm not a teacher ;)

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 31/07/2018 20:55:01    2128015

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "Gerry McEntee may have been a fine footballer in his day and hold a good profession, he's a very good man, evidenced with how he went out of his way to get Beano McDonald of Laois the best of treatment after his horrific leg injury against Tyrone in 2004. However even good men make very ignorant comments, and if he made that one it was ill judged and anti our native game.

I don't want to know about your ancestry. However when you state you'd prefer the worst Junior B match to any hurling game it's illogical. What joy one could get out of watching Fermanagh playing Monaghan above any of the great hurling games of the past few weeks is beyond me. Even men like Colm O'Rourke and many footballers, of past times especially, are not afraid to call a spade a spade. Many inter county football games are utter sh*te. Lateral, ponderous, slow, boring, they do little to lift the soul. Is the hand passing of a football such a thing to treasure and enjoy? Most Laois gaelic football people are tuning out of gaelic football games on tv but watch the hurling games.

I think you'd find the Battle of Thermopylae boring but would get excited looking at a game chess. It's not very gaelic to me! If your bored by the ultimate gaelic warrior sport it says more about you than the game. Junior B football matches in Meath must be some spectacle to beat what hurling provided at the weekend.

Gaelic Football is only popular as it's the only show in town in most counties and people follow their county and love the day out. Carlow people know they are playing dross in football, but a Leinster semi final is a novel day out for them. The worst aspect of this year is that the Dubs are starting to move from their attacking game to just playing out time. Mayo are gone, who were involved in most of the great games since 2011.

I think there's a lot of bitterness on here for gaelic football being shown up for what it has become. Tactics evolving etc is all bull when the end product is spontaneity and joie de vivre being knocked out of teenagers on development squads to adhere to 'the system'.

I have hurled and played gaelic football and for me there's a far greater thrill to be had from playing with that ash plant in your hand, deadening a ball at speed, whipping a ground stroke to the net, scoring on the run etc than anything in gaelic, bar the high catch perhaps. That ash plant from the ground becomes an extension of your hand and if you haven't the stick with you it's as if part of you is missing. Most who play or played both would agree with me."
I am not against those who like hurling, that is their preference. However I have no interest in it , it bores me to tears. I'll give you a example I have used many times on here before. 09 all ire quarter finals Meath underdogs beat mayo in one of the best matches to Been played in Crocker. Had the whole family up, fantastic game, it was a double header. Hurling semi final afterwards, I know it was kilkenny but off top of my head can't think of who they were playing, I said to herself and kids ahh sure we will stick around and watch this. By halftime one of my girls turned to me and said if I made her watch anymore she was gonna call child line. It was horrendous, and brought down the fantastic day that it had been. If a hurling match was in my back field, I wouldn't watch it. I don't like cricket either, should we all like what we told to? I haven't said anything to anyone about their love of a game I find boring and irrelevant, so leave me to my football, horse racing, and F1, those are my main sports. How is it so hard for 'hurling men' to understand that others don't share their enthusiasm, or care about it. I have often said on here my liking for Galway football after Meath (Down too) but I don't care about their hurlers , actually if they had a darts team I would be as blasé. However I will watch their footballers with pure delight.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/07/2018 20:56:20    2128016

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Replying To BliainanÁir:  "With all due respect you do talk a lot of boll*x. I have read this forum since about 2010 and just signed up recently. I read a lot of your posts about Andy McEntee making Meath competitive against the Dubs in 2 years. You stated this with great authority. Now 2 years on he's done nothing of note bar lose the rag after this year's qualifier against Tyrone. Bit of a fascination with the McEntees going on here.

Meath football should rebound and it's the U17s and they're management who are starting this work."
Still miles better than whack it anywhere ball.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/07/2018 20:58:47    2128017

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Btw. Here is Gerry thoughts in it.
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/all-ireland-winner-wants-to-burn-all-the-hurleys-to-help-his-county-get-back-on-top-308329

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/07/2018 21:04:16    2128020

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Replying To royaldunne:  "My 10 + years in hogan stand I have never pretended to like whack it anywhere with a stick game. I'm not gonna start now. If you do. I have no problem, but don't try to force those of us who find it boring to like it. It's a free country, we are a Republic aren't we ??"
Yeah it is but no thanks to the 'seanains' ............nobody forcing you to like anything but ignorant comments like you have made have no place in the GAA, you may not like all our games but at least show some respect......'whack it anywhere with a stick' is simply an ignorant comment, no more no less........

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 31/07/2018 21:27:22    2128026

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Btw. Here is Gerry thoughts in it.
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/all-ireland-winner-wants-to-burn-all-the-hurleys-to-help-his-county-get-back-on-top-308329"
Really worked well too hasn't it...........

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 31/07/2018 21:28:13    2128027

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If hurling people are the ones always banging on about how great our game is, how come we're not the ones calling our championship "super"?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 31/07/2018 21:33:31    2128029

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I found the documentary on RTE overblown and not much history being divulged ie the different types of hurling played in different parts of the country in ancient times, links with shinty, attempts by the British authorities in the middle ages to wipe the game out. Maybe that will change with the next episodes. Also the lack of someone from Limerick being a contributor on the first programme was incredible.

Being from Leitrim football is the number one love, not in it's current form alas, it is morphing into rugby league without the high quality tackling. Part of hurlings appeal is that the ball is constantly being driven into a attacking position in a 50/50 scenario. There are many followers of football who wish this were still the case in our game. Others want to turn it into a game of chess where the pieces keep going sideways and backwards, never forwards.

It is clear that after 130 years the GAA have failed to promote hurling meaningfully in most of the top half of the island, maybe it is incumbent on people in that part of the world to form their own organisation to promote and develop it. If that involves less players a side, smaller pitches, amalgamations of parishes, well then so be it.

spiritofeslin (Leitrim) - Posts: 136 - 31/07/2018 21:44:40    2128034

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "Really worked well too hasn't it..........."
Gerrys thoughts did nothing but lose him respect of a large portion of the GAA community in the county. Meath football will be a force again I'm sure but the McEntees will be well gone.

Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 31/07/2018 21:49:46    2128037

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I am not against those who like hurling, that is their preference. However I have no interest in it , it bores me to tears. I'll give you a example I have used many times on here before. 09 all ire quarter finals Meath underdogs beat mayo in one of the best matches to Been played in Crocker. Had the whole family up, fantastic game, it was a double header. Hurling semi final afterwards, I know it was kilkenny but off top of my head can't think of who they were playing, I said to herself and kids ahh sure we will stick around and watch this. By halftime one of my girls turned to me and said if I made her watch anymore she was gonna call child line. It was horrendous, and brought down the fantastic day that it had been. If a hurling match was in my back field, I wouldn't watch it. I don't like cricket either, should we all like what we told to? I haven't said anything to anyone about their love of a game I find boring and irrelevant, so leave me to my football, horse racing, and F1, those are my main sports. How is it so hard for 'hurling men' to understand that others don't share their enthusiasm, or care about it. I have often said on here my liking for Galway football after Meath (Down too) but I don't care about their hurlers , actually if they had a darts team I would be as blasé. However I will watch their footballers with pure delight."
Don't think anyone really cares whether you like hurling or not to be honest.

Your complete ignorance towards the game probably annoys people alright but ignorance can't be helped in many ways I suppose.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1353 - 31/07/2018 21:58:12    2128038

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Still miles better than whack it anywhere ball."
'whack it anywhere ball'

You're entitled to your opinion but that statement of yours above is pure ignorance. One example, Shane Dowling's peripheral vision to flick the ball to the left in a glut of players at just the right pace to setup Aaron Gillane for a goal chance for Limerick on Sunday. The subtleties of the game are lost on you...and your family.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 31/07/2018 22:09:47    2128041

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Replying To Roger:  "I didn't mean to offend when I said it bugs me how hurling people keep rolling out the 'best game in the world' line. It's just an observation. If you think about it, hurling is only played in this country and it's not even the most popular sport in Ireland - but yet many think it is the greatest sport in the world. That's a strange scenario.
The reality is that hurling and football are in competition and with dual players extinct at county level, they are going to be extinct in the future at club level too.
For example in Go Games in Meath, football and hurling is played on alternative weekends. You can't play a football game at U10/U8 level or coach if it clashes with hurling. It's a small percentage of kids who play hurling in this county so the majority are stopped playing football every second Saturday. Soccer here is every week - kids know they are playing every Friday/Saturday for 30 weeks in a row bar a summer break. The GAA can't compete with that because it is trying to facilitate two completely diverse sports.
The reality is that if you have as much chance of making hurling popular in football counties as you have of making football a success in Kilkenny."
That scenario re playing hurling/football on alternate weekends is done in most counties that play both sports. If you want to play exclusively football join a half a GAA club like say a GFC. But playing alternate weekends is done in Dublin as it is in most duel counties. Playing/training football exclusively hasn't done a whole lot for most football only counties a bit rich blaming Meaths lack of football success on hurling - only ignorance would suggest that.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 31/07/2018 22:10:16    2128042

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I am not against those who like hurling, that is their preference. However I have no interest in it , it bores me to tears. I'll give you a example I have used many times on here before. 09 all ire quarter finals Meath underdogs beat mayo in one of the best matches to Been played in Crocker. Had the whole family up, fantastic game, it was a double header. Hurling semi final afterwards, I know it was kilkenny but off top of my head can't think of who they were playing, I said to herself and kids ahh sure we will stick around and watch this. By halftime one of my girls turned to me and said if I made her watch anymore she was gonna call child line. It was horrendous, and brought down the fantastic day that it had been. If a hurling match was in my back field, I wouldn't watch it. I don't like cricket either, should we all like what we told to? I haven't said anything to anyone about their love of a game I find boring and irrelevant, so leave me to my football, horse racing, and F1, those are my main sports. How is it so hard for 'hurling men' to understand that others don't share their enthusiasm, or care about it. I have often said on here my liking for Galway football after Meath (Down too) but I don't care about their hurlers , actually if they had a darts team I would be as blasé. However I will watch their footballers with pure delight."
No one remembers that 'classic' between Meath and Mayo bar you and some Meath supporters.

I'd wager a bet people remember the classic trilogy of hurling all-irelands between KK and Tipp from 2009-2011. With the climax probably being 2010.

I'll tell you what i do remember though, the absolute borefest that was Meath v Kerry in the 2009 semi final. It was followed by a very boring All Ireland football final when Cork, after a very good start, predictably capitulated to the Kingdom in Croke Park.

And if your talking about exciting Meath games i'd suggest the 2007 quarter final with the brilliant palmed Geraghty goal v Tyrone or the 1996 semi v Tyrone. Notice a trend? We're going back over 10 yrs. Inter county football, in general, has disimproved as entertainment.

BliainanÁir (Laois) - Posts: 598 - 31/07/2018 22:15:26    2128043

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Replying To Royalace:  "What do you know of hurling in Meath. There are big numbers playing the game. 12 senior clubs all with second teams some with three. Hurling is gaining popularity in the county. The likes of Ratoath who for years had one mediocre junior team are now contenders for the senior. What right has Gerry McEntee to sow the boot into people putting the effort into they're sport throughout the county. The county team is obviously not great but I don't see the same numbers walking away from the panel as the football tea. Perhaps Gerry may address this."
Kilmessan have some setup, very well run setup very admirable and I always enjoy taking teams to play them. There are others in the county - but how anyone involved in Meath GAA could say Meath football is suffering because of hurling needs to see a doctor or change to a better one.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 31/07/2018 22:18:47    2128045

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From a rural Ireland point of view it's Very hard to introduce hurling in football strongholds that are already struggling for playing numbers.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11239 - 31/07/2018 22:24:17    2128050

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Replying To ballydalane:  "I never played a football match until I was 17."
Would those KK 17 today even get a chance ?
Are footballs legal in your parts ?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2627 - 31/07/2018 22:25:28    2128051

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While I'm more of a Hurling person I love Gaelic too. Luckily I'm from a county that does well in both codes. Both games are awesome when played well by equally matched teams. Funny enough I bought my first hurley in KERRY of all places! Go figure.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2136 - 31/07/2018 22:27:04    2128053

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