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With reference to the Dublin v Roscommon game in 2 weeks time, with neither team having anything to play for, do we refer to the game as a Dead Rubber or a Dead Duck? I would always have referred to it as a Dead Rubber, but Tomas O Se on the Sunday Game last night called it a Dead Duck. I thought this was obviously a mistake but then I heard Marc O Se on Matt Cooper this evening on Today FM also calling the game a Dead Duck. Is Dead Duck a West Kerry phrase or is it used elsewhere to mean the same as Dead Rubber? Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 23/07/2018 21:56:53 2125450 Link
The important issues of the day lol. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/07/2018 22:10:49 2125455 Link
Dead rubber duck? Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1064 - 23/07/2018 22:16:04 2125458 Link
Replying To Lifford Gael: "With reference to the Dublin v Roscommon game in 2 weeks time, with neither team having anything to play for, do we refer to the game as a Dead Rubber or a Dead Duck? I would always have referred to it as a Dead Rubber, but Tomas O Se on the Sunday Game last night called it a Dead Duck. I thought this was obviously a mistake but then I heard Marc O Se on Matt Cooper this evening on Today FM also calling the game a Dead Duck. Is Dead Duck a West Kerry phrase or is it used elsewhere to mean the same as Dead Rubber?" It's a matter of indifference, isn't it? THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 23/07/2018 22:34:35 2125470 Link
Replying To Lifford Gael: "With reference to the Dublin v Roscommon game in 2 weeks time, with neither team having anything to play for, do we refer to the game as a Dead Rubber or a Dead Duck? I would always have referred to it as a Dead Rubber, but Tomas O Se on the Sunday Game last night called it a Dead Duck. I thought this was obviously a mistake but then I heard Marc O Se on Matt Cooper this evening on Today FM also calling the game a Dead Duck. Is Dead Duck a West Kerry phrase or is it used elsewhere to mean the same as Dead Rubber?" A dead rubber duck..... GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 23/07/2018 22:38:10 2125473 Link
looks like it's a slow news day on the hoganstand forum hahahaha NaomhNaille (Donegal) - Posts: 124 - 23/07/2018 22:41:23 2125475 Link
To what extent was Duck misused once - and now there's the herd effect. I'd rather be calling it a breathing elephant - if the match meant anything. Is this the best we can come up ? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2621 - 23/07/2018 22:56:36 2125484 Link
Roscommon are sitting ducks. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 23/07/2018 23:51:57 2125511 Link
maybe a Rubber Duck ? WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 24/07/2018 00:49:08 2125519 Link
That's a big 10/4 rubber ducky realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 24/07/2018 01:12:43 2125522 Link
Ive heard both being used but why not compromise and just call games like that dead rubber ducks and we can then have omahant come up with competition proposals by the 000s that somehow will stop dead rubber ducks from ever occuring DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 24/07/2018 01:17:59 2125525 Link
dead rubber = game where the outcome doesnt matter dead duck = dead animal beside a pond....... perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 24/07/2018 08:38:01 2125549 Link
Its a dead rubber duck!! There that solves it. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1352 - 24/07/2018 09:05:20 2125555 Link
Since Dublin v Roscommon is now a dead rubber duck game I think it's only right that this game be the curtain raiser to the u20 final ;) yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11237 - 24/07/2018 09:59:05 2125565 Link
Replying To omahant: "To what extent was Duck misused once - and now there's the herd effect. I'd rather be calling it a breathing elephant - if the match meant anything. Is this the best we can come up ?" When I heard Tomas calling it a Dead Duck I took it that he meant to say Dead Rubber but that the phrase wouldn't come to him and that he associated Rubber with Rubber Duck and that's where the Dead Duck came from. It was when Marc used Dead Duck on Matt Cooper that I thought that this must be a West Kerry term or even just an O Se family term. But as you say Omahant, it could very well be the herd effect and once a term is misused once on national media, it suddenly becomes acceptablé in normal discourse. Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 24/07/2018 10:02:52 2125566 Link
Maybe the Roscommon manger felt Donegal got the rubber the green ☺ Dee (Laois) - Posts: 312 - 24/07/2018 10:49:26 2125580 Link
Wouldn't the rubber duck be yellow, though ? I can't believe I'm stooping this low - must be bored. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2621 - 24/07/2018 11:14:08 2125590 Link
Replying To omahant: "Wouldn't the rubber duck be yellow, though ? I can't believe I'm stooping this low - must be bored." Lol. Dee (Laois) - Posts: 312 - 24/07/2018 11:25:39 2125596 Link
Pity the linesman didn't duck when the Roscomon manger threw the ball at him. ☺ Dee (Laois) - Posts: 312 - 24/07/2018 11:28:23 2125599 Link
From t'internet Dead Rubber: Dead rubber is a term used in sporting parlance to describe a match in a series where the series result has already been decided by earlier matches. The dead rubber match therefore has no effect on the winner and loser of the series, other than the total number of matches won and lost. Dead Duck: A person or thing that is beyond help, redemption, or hope So in the context of the Dublin/Roscommon game and taking the above in to consideration then would think it would be a Dead Rubber. Funnily enough though I happened to come across both in the one place last week in Kilkenny. Was in Jenkinstown Park for an aul dander and not only was there a decaying duck in the woods but there was also a Dead Rubber lying in the car park which got me wondering should it be renamed Jiggystown Park. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 24/07/2018 11:48:16 2125610 Link