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Galway Vs Clare Hurling Semi Final

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Replying To ballydalane: "Until the current Galway team learn to put teams away when on top and put multiple back-to-back All Irelands together, they can't be compared to the Kilkenny team of 06-15. The current Kilkenny team is a shadow of that team, easily the worst of the Cody era, they did well to even bring Galway to a replay." That KK team also gave a fair scare to the Limerick team that just won today so maybe KK are not as bad as all that. I'll agree though that Galway need to be more relentless when they lead big. And I never seen anyone compare this Galway team to that KK team of 06-15. The fact that you compared Galway to them at all is flattering but not realistic. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 29/07/2018 21:46:03 2127383 Link
Replying To Trump2020: "That KK team also gave a fair scare to the Limerick team that just won today so maybe KK are not as bad as all that. I'll agree though that Galway need to be more relentless when they lead big. And I never seen anyone compare this Galway team to that KK team of 06-15. The fact that you compared Galway to them at all is flattering but not realistic." Damien Hayes made that daft claim. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 29/07/2018 21:58:19 2127390 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Damien Hayes made that daft claim." Well then he's just wrong. There's never been a team like them in any county or even in Kilkenny itself prior to that team. That team had everything. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 29/07/2018 22:18:16 2127393 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "He gave Clare a bunch of handy frees. Podge fell over for point 1. Kelly dived to draw the game. Mannion was pulled for a fair shoulder. He ignored a jersey tug on C.Cooney that would have buried Clare at the death, and gave Clare a free at the other end within 60seconds. Galway are on the periphery of 'hurling country' and have struggled with southern referees for years. Plundering in Leinster lately is doing nothing for our 'relations' down south either possibly. Minors bury 'the Leinster champs' yesterday, and are not welcome in the Leinster championship. A Laois referee & his officials were the largest 'stumbling block' recently in Galway's u21 Leinster championship win, at the first time of asking. Galway fans are not deluded about what James Owens did yesterday." You make me laugh... a big conspiracy against galway. Ref was fine yesterday. Take off your maroon tinted glasses and you will see that. You can look through every game and you will find frees missed or incorrectly given. In general James Owens got most things right yesterday. I suppose it was purely down to James Owens that galway lost a 9 point lead nothing to do with the galway team... jj72 (Kildare) - Posts: 53 - 29/07/2018 22:31:58 2127395 Link
Replying To Uimhir.a.3.: "Peter Duggan's score was one of the all time great scores, yet another spectacular game of hurling. Well done to both teams. Hurling is the only thing keeping the GAA alive yet again, hurlers show how to play the game & get on with it, real men. Hurling really is showing up football for the absolute sh%te that it is. Watching footballers now a days feigning injury is sickening, some of them are actually worse than Neymar, it's now no better than soccer. Thankfully the hurlers have not gone down that road yet. Looking forward to the replay." Quit running down the Galway footballers. They have a good chance of making the All Ireland semi final. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 29/07/2018 23:46:59 2127415 Link
Replying To Uimhir.a.3.: "Peter Duggan's score was one of the all time great scores, yet another spectacular game of hurling. Well done to both teams. Hurling is the only thing keeping the GAA alive yet again, hurlers show how to play the game & get on with it, real men. Hurling really is showing up football for the absolute sh%te that it is. Watching footballers now a days feigning injury is sickening, some of them are actually worse than Neymar, it's now no better than soccer. Thankfully the hurlers have not gone down that road yet. Looking forward to the replay." Quit running down the Galway footballers. They have a good chance of making the All Ireland semi final. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 29/07/2018 23:46:59 2127416 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "He gave Clare a bunch of handy frees. Podge fell over for point 1. Kelly dived to draw the game. Mannion was pulled for a fair shoulder. He ignored a jersey tug on C.Cooney that would have buried Clare at the death, and gave Clare a free at the other end within 60seconds. Galway are on the periphery of 'hurling country' and have struggled with southern referees for years. Plundering in Leinster lately is doing nothing for our 'relations' down south either possibly. Minors bury 'the Leinster champs' yesterday, and are not welcome in the Leinster championship. A Laois referee & his officials were the largest 'stumbling block' recently in Galway's u21 Leinster championship win, at the first time of asking. Galway fans are not deluded about what James Owens did yesterday." Sure listen. We are going to be siding with our our team but the reality is that all the neutrals thought he had a good game so thats the end of it really. If you honest think kelly dived, I cant help you. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 30/07/2018 05:43:06 2127427 Link
I thought both refs did a very good job over the weekend. They got the vast majority of the calls right, which given the pace both games and the amount going on, is far from easy. In general the games flowed well which helped to provide 2 crackers. Anyone nit-picking over a couple of incidents here or there, are being very unfair. As a Galway man, I had no issue with the ref on Saturday. Of course I'd argue with some decisions, but so would supporters in any game ever played. I hope the replay is played and reffed in the same spirit. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 30/07/2018 09:50:01 2127448 Link
Anyone nit-picking over a couple of incidents here or there, are being very unfair. As a Galway man, I had no issue with the ref on Saturday. Of course I'd argue with some decisions, but so would supporters in any game ever played. I hope the replay is played and reffed in the same spirit. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 207 - 30/07/2018 09:50:01 2127448 Spot on. For what its worth, the Clare equaliser was a 50/50 call, but there is no disputing it was not shoulder to shoulder and that is why it was given. Galway seem to be becoming like Kilkenny, always complaining about the ref! StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1733 - 30/07/2018 10:01:04 2127452 Link
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "He gave Clare a bunch of handy frees. Podge fell over for point 1. Kelly dived to draw the game. Mannion was pulled for a fair shoulder. He ignored a jersey tug on C.Cooney that would have buried Clare at the death, and gave Clare a free at the other end within 60seconds. Galway are on the periphery of 'hurling country' and have struggled with southern referees for years. Plundering in Leinster lately is doing nothing for our 'relations' down south either possibly. Minors bury 'the Leinster champs' yesterday, and are not welcome in the Leinster championship. A Laois referee & his officials were the largest 'stumbling block' recently in Galway's u21 Leinster championship win, at the first time of asking. Galway fans are not deluded about what James Owens did yesterday." Your view is baffling to be honest. You'd do well to listen to how Waterford supporters reacted to the Tipp result earlier in the year, with the decisions made in that game. The ref didnt do ye out of that game. Clare earned their draw fairly. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/07/2018 10:17:21 2127456 Link
James Owens must never be allowed referee a Galway hurling game again. He practically handed a draw to Clare singlehandedly. That said, Galway shot lots and lots of wides, and a lot of their handpasses went astray. Goals win games, and Galway neeeded two yesterday. They got one. Unfortunately at this stage it will be about keeping Clare's score down. I would suggest we try for more goals. Keep the ball low in the final third of the pitch. Gaillimh abú galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 30/07/2018 10:33:26 2127462 Link
Replying To ballydalane: "Well, it is the worst Kilkenny team of the Cody era, a team of Galway's quality shouldn't even be brought to a replay and letting 12 point leads slip against them (albeit winning in the end)." Not taking away from the KK team you mention but they played against the worst Leinster teams of the same era and had often won the game after 20 minutes. Lets see how KK fare in the next five years. With the new structures the championship is going to be a lot more open and competitive. baire (Galway) - Posts: 1804 - 30/07/2018 10:45:30 2127465 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Your view is baffling to be honest. You'd do well to listen to how Waterford supporters reacted to the Tipp result earlier in the year, with the decisions made in that game. The ref didnt do ye out of that game. Clare earned their draw fairly." Not baffling at all. We got screwed by Owens on Saturday imo. I often think that some of these 'fans' who don't see the obviousness of biased refereeing must be seeing games at a very superficial level. They love hurling, possibly because everyone loves hurling, because hurling is a gift from the gods, and all that malarkey. Yet, a lot of these poor divils don't seem to notice that one side is getting handy frees, and the other side isn't. Gave Clare every chance to win it at 70+ minutes, and once we turned them over heroically, he couldn't get the whistle in his mouth fast enough. And not alone that, but it's going on for 40 years or more, where Galway hurling & some southern referees are concerned. In Thurles in 2009 after Kirwan had won a match for Waterford over Galway, I overheard an apt summation. Munster team at a Munster venue with a Munster referee, what did you expect? Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3422 - 30/07/2018 11:00:38 2127472 Link
Replying To baire: "Not taking away from the KK team you mention but they played against the worst Leinster teams of the same era and had often won the game after 20 minutes. Lets see how KK fare in the next five years. With the new structures the championship is going to be a lot more open and competitive." Firstly, Galway were brought into the Leinster Championship in 2009 to make the province more competitive but despite that, that Kilkenny team still managed to chalk up another 6 Leinsters and 5 All-Irelands, and secondly, the hammerings that Kilkenny team administered weren't just confined to the poor ould Leinster teams (as Limerick '07, Cork & Waterford '08, Cork '10 and Tipp '12 will testify). Anyway, Galway had the game "won" after 15 minutes on Saturday, they were 9 points up and cruising. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 30/07/2018 11:25:39 2127484 Link
We have a good u21 team and a good minor team. The future is bright for Galway hurlers. If we don't win next Saturday- and it is a mission impossible- then we will win again in 2019. Gaillimh abú galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 30/07/2018 11:42:46 2127492 Link
The pace of hurling is now so great you need two refs, don't see why this would be such an issue and would cut down on the mistakes, off the ball holding etc........what is a bigger issue though us the 'patronage' of certain refs by croke park committees based solely on who is on the committee.......of the seven finals or knock our games in the championship thus far 'leinster' refs have got five of them and Dwyer was given the all Ireland semi final despite not having reffed a Munster or Leinster final or indeed an all Ireland q final........that is madness and shouldn't be allowed as players deserve better, I don't think refs go out of their way to 'persecute' one team over the other but some of them simply aren't at the level required but are being appointed due to 'friends' at committee level....... PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 30/07/2018 11:43:56 2127494 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "Anyone nit-picking over a couple of incidents here or there, are being very unfair. As a Galway man, I had no issue with the ref on Saturday. Of course I'd argue with some decisions, but so would supporters in any game ever played. I hope the replay is played and reffed in the same spirit. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 207 - 30/07/2018 09:50:01 2127448 Spot on. For what its worth, the Clare equaliser was a 50/50 call, but there is no disputing it was not shoulder to shoulder and that is why it was given. Galway seem to be becoming like Kilkenny, always complaining about the ref!" Nonsense, Galway won the match in 70 minutes, and won the match again after 20 mins extra time. Clare got draws in the 72nd minute of normal time, and the 23 minutes+45 seconds of the 20 minute extra time. Yes Galway hit a lot of wides- and were a bit unfit and off the pace, and their sideline made mistakes too- but Mr Owens played for a Clare win, and he settled for a draw when that strategy failed. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 30/07/2018 11:47:09 2127495 Link
Replying To baire: "Not taking away from the KK team you mention but they played against the worst Leinster teams of the same era and had often won the game after 20 minutes. Lets see how KK fare in the next five years. With the new structures the championship is going to be a lot more open and competitive." That is an old myth thrown at KK all the time........maybe in other years it had some relevance but the KK team from 2006-2014 was the greatest of their generation if not if all time ..........some of the hurlers on that team such as Walsh, Shefflin, jj, Brennan etc won't be seen again and people shouldn't belittle their achievements ......I'm no fan of KK but that teams achievements will stand the test of time and no amount of begrudgerry will change that......... PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 30/07/2018 12:10:50 2127502 Link
Replying To PaudieSull1: "The pace of hurling is now so great you need two refs, don't see why this would be such an issue and would cut down on the mistakes, off the ball holding etc........what is a bigger issue though us the 'patronage' of certain refs by croke park committees based solely on who is on the committee.......of the seven finals or knock our games in the championship thus far 'leinster' refs have got five of them and Dwyer was given the all Ireland semi final despite not having reffed a Munster or Leinster final or indeed an all Ireland q final........that is madness and shouldn't be allowed as players deserve better, I don't think refs go out of their way to 'persecute' one team over the other but some of them simply aren't at the level required but are being appointed due to 'friends' at committee level......." Paudie, you're clearly informed in this area, and I wouldn't argue the nuts & bolts of the politics of it. But, if you think that no referees or their extended umpiring teams go out of their way to 'persecute' one team over another, you clearly haven't been around for as long as some of the rest of us. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3422 - 30/07/2018 12:12:14 2127504 Link
am i reading this correctly?galway people think that a wexford referee tried to hand clare the game? where are the abundance of top referees from galway?no wonder there are none. was it james owens fault flynn missed that free?or that the players missed some bad wides? galway were 9 points up and crusing,if they are pointing at the referee as to why they didnt see the match out you are deluded lads. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 30/07/2018 12:18:53 2127507 Link