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Donegal V Roscommon

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Eamon doherty had a good game against Ciara'n Kilkenny last weekend he is our best man to man market. To curtail Kilkenny to one point and keep him quiet just showed how well he played. Another thingI hear Mc stay talking about how he'll have to change there style of play if they want to beat the big boys from being at the game tyrone played as they always do,sitting back and forcing turnovers and hitting teams on the break. We'll have to replicate this if we want a result on Saturday. Because if we take Roscommon on in a shootout we'll prob get beat. Roscommon from midfield up are excellent so it's a game we have to be patient in. Roscommon like to be let play football but they don't like the ulster style football.,."
I don't rate Doherty at all. I would counter your argument about Kilkenny by saying that Kilkenny had a poor game. He won every ball he went for in front of Doherty but didn't use it well and his decisions were nothing to do with Doherty. If you're right that he's our best man marker I wouldn't like to see what Conor Mc Manus would do to him.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 19/07/2018 18:17:28    2123831

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "I don't rate Doherty at all. I would counter your argument about Kilkenny by saying that Kilkenny had a poor game. He won every ball he went for in front of Doherty but didn't use it well and his decisions were nothing to do with Doherty. If you're right that he's our best man marker I wouldn't like to see what Conor Mc Manus would do to him."
By man marking what I really meant is man marking the opposing teams playmaker. He's done it against peter Harte in the league up in omagh and he seems to be givien the role a lot.. know nothing about the lad but going by his interviews he come across as a very level Headed lad who doesn't sulk if he's not starting and is prepared to fight for his place.. I guess Bonner must see something in him.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 19/07/2018 19:33:02    2123844

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Replying To rorysboys:  "By man marking what I really meant is man marking the opposing teams playmaker. He's done it against peter Harte in the league up in omagh and he seems to be givien the role a lot.. know nothing about the lad but going by his interviews he come across as a very level Headed lad who doesn't sulk if he's not starting and is prepared to fight for his place.. I guess Bonner must see something in him."
I've met the lad on a few occasions and he's a nice lad and by all accounts a very dedicated player so my opinion is not on him as a person but more of a player. He is suited to a certain type of player though whereas the likes of Paddy Mc Grath, Neil Mc Gee etc. can mark any type of player.
Anyways, this topic is about the overall game and I still think we need to play a far higher press on Roscommon this week. When Tyrone denied them time on the ball the didn't deal well with the pressure and lost control easily. If we can match that with fast counter attacking running game then I thin we can win but it won't be easy. The last time we went to the Hyde it took a couple of late points from Marty O' Reilly to come away with the points and even with that Roscommon missed a gilt edged chance for a goal at the death to win the game.
It will be tough but at least it's another learning day for this young team.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 19/07/2018 20:24:43    2123861

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I see Paddy should be fit for Sat evening, great news, the ref is Ciaran Branagan from Down, anybody know what he's like? hope he's not too whistle happy, it should be a good attacking game despite what's at stake, both teams can play great attacking football, looks like it's going to be a good dry day too, should be a cracker. Just hope we can come out the right side of it and the Dubs do us a favour in Omagh.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2748 - 19/07/2018 21:34:15    2123875

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "I've met the lad on a few occasions and he's a nice lad and by all accounts a very dedicated player so my opinion is not on him as a person but more of a player. He is suited to a certain type of player though whereas the likes of Paddy Mc Grath, Neil Mc Gee etc. can mark any type of player.
Anyways, this topic is about the overall game and I still think we need to play a far higher press on Roscommon this week. When Tyrone denied them time on the ball the didn't deal well with the pressure and lost control easily. If we can match that with fast counter attacking running game then I thin we can win but it won't be easy. The last time we went to the Hyde it took a couple of late points from Marty O' Reilly to come away with the points and even with that Roscommon missed a gilt edged chance for a goal at the death to win the game.
It will be tough but at least it's another learning day for this young team."
Think it was Eoin McHugh who got the winner but I stand to be corrected. True Roscommon missed a huge goal chance at the end but Donegal had already squandered 3 or 4 in the game including one somehow missed near open goal.

As for Eamon Doherty he had a very good game at the weekend. Rather than pin pointing one player in particular it was more a collective thing. Yes we competed well and overall I was not too despondent after the game but we did not do alot of what served us well in the Ulster Championship. Of course the dubs were a huge step up but I hope the players and the management learn from the experience. You ain't going to beat the dubs by trying to contain them as they will always find a way. You need to go at them just like Mayo have to really have any chance of beating them.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 19/07/2018 22:44:54    2123888

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Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "Mc Glynn has played sweeper for us all championship. What number do you give the sweeper to? Enlighten me?"
Maybe state that he's a sweeper but to be honest I get that you were playing him as sweeper, I'm been a bit smart.

There is a certain irony though in stating that a manager needs to be braver and then playing a sweeper with a number 15 on his back. That's straight away a defensive move. McHugh was moved to a more offensive half forward position and langan (for most part) playing up top with Brennan against Dublin. Doherty then came in at the back to mark Kilkenny. From an overall perspective it wasn't that defensive a move.

Im not sure you could drop Thompson, he's been very good this year. I like the idea of bringing mulligan on to run at defences when they are tired so don't think I'd start him. I do like the idea of starting Stephen McBrearty because it's clear he's loads of ability. He was injured for some of the ulster championship, he has to be fully fit and doing it in training. If he's not I don't think he can start him.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 693 - 19/07/2018 22:56:37    2123892

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I'll be really surprised if Donegal don't win this

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 20/07/2018 00:00:50    2123908

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Referee giving everything to Roscommon so far. He ruined the Munster final and will probably ruin this.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 21/07/2018 17:15:08    2124309

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Did Kevin McStay just manhandle the linesman there and push him a few times? I reckon he hasn't heard the last of that.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 21/07/2018 17:41:16    2124315

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Replying To gaelicgab:  "Referee giving everything to Roscommon so far. He ruined the Munster final and will probably ruin this."
Brannigan favouring Donegal now.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 21/07/2018 17:53:49    2124321

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Diarmuid Connolly was hammered for what McStay did. The TV panel reckon McStay will have the book thrown at him for that.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 21/07/2018 17:56:38    2124322

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Replying To gaelicgab:  "Brannigan favouring Donegal now."
Favours the winning team.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 21/07/2018 18:04:07    2124326

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We are simply not good enough but refereeing is a disgrace out there. Our kickout plan or lack of it is wprst i have ever seen

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 21/07/2018 18:21:33    2124329

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I don't know what it is about that Donegal away jersey , but I like it.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/07/2018 18:27:27    2124331

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Diarmuid Connolly was hammered for what McStay did. The TV panel reckon McStay will have the book thrown at him for that."
A 6 month ban imminent........

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 21/07/2018 18:50:39    2124335

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I don't know what it is about that Donegal away jersey , but I like it."
Ha Ha I wonder

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 21/07/2018 18:52:27    2124336

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "A 6 month ban imminent........"
Doubt it ref surely would have been advised of inncident at half time by linemans and sent him to the stand. That said he was completely wrong put his hand on linesman. If anyone it should have been Brannigan who had a nightmare gave us nothing

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 21/07/2018 19:02:13    2124340

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Dominant win and probably worthy winners by a few more scores given some poor shooting. Reversal of last week in relation to the kickouts. Class prevailed given the performances of Michael Murphy (who given the right supply is still the best full forward in the game), Frank McGlynn (bizarrely should already be retired according to some sections of the media even going back a couple of years) and Odhran McNiallis who had his best outing in the championship this year. If he starts pinging them over with his right more regularly like he did today this guy has the natural talent to be one of the best players in the country. Special mention to Stephen Mcmenammin who I thought was excellent today and vitally improving every game.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 21/07/2018 19:12:29    2124342

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Replying To panamasam:  "Dominant win and probably worthy winners by a few more scores given some poor shooting. Reversal of last week in relation to the kickouts. Class prevailed given the performances of Michael Murphy (who given the right supply is still the best full forward in the game), Frank McGlynn (bizarrely should already be retired according to some sections of the media even going back a couple of years) and Odhran McNiallis who had his best outing in the championship this year. If he starts pinging them over with his right more regularly like he did today this guy has the natural talent to be one of the best players in the country. Special mention to Stephen Mcmenammin who I thought was excellent today and vitally improving every game."
I wouldn't get carried away ye were playing a very poor roscommon out fit

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 617 - 21/07/2018 19:37:52    2124349

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "Doubt it ref surely would have been advised of inncident at half time by linemans and sent him to the stand. That said he was completely wrong put his hand on linesman. If anyone it should have been Brannigan who had a nightmare gave us nothing"
Was only slagging, a 6 month ban would have him back for the League! Hopefully he'll get nothing.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 21/07/2018 19:41:32    2124350

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