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Galway Vs Killkenny

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Replying To skillet:  "Lucky draw? Is it us you mean? We'll give them a game.."
Ignore me above.. Pretty obvious you were talking about last week's game. I was too busy trying to figure out where we'll be playing them to read your post properly.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1063 - 08/07/2018 17:15:03    2119690

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Replying To Rockies:  "Galway were way ahead of Kilkenny and will take some stopping.
Deservedly, Galway are strong favourites for All Ireland.
Am hoping for Cork and Galway final."
As good as Cork are I just don't trust them, they've let you down too often.

Galway still strong favorites for me but not as strong as the Kilkenny team of the 00's favorites, as good as Galway are you always feel you've a small chance.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 08/07/2018 17:16:58    2119691

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Replying To skillet:  "Lucky draw? Is it us you mean? We'll give them a game.."
Ignore me above.. Pretty obvious you were talking about last week's game. I was too busy trying to figure out where we'll be playing them to read your post properly.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1063 - 08/07/2018 17:16:58    2119692

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Very happy with today's result. Any year you beat KK twice is a great achievement. Still some great matches to be played. Galway Abu!

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2126 - 08/07/2018 17:56:40    2119711

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Has Bab's Keating gone totally mad?
"One thing that caught my eye was Jonathan Glynn wearing a glove on both hands," Keating wrote.
"I don't know any hurler worth his salt who wouldn't sacrifice a rap on the hand to play in a Leinster final. It's unforgivable that the biggest and strongest fella on the pitch, 6ft 4in and nearly 16st, had to wear them on both hands.
"Gloves are a handicap in hurling, no question about it, and if I was Micheal Donoghue giving him a jersey, I'd have a serious chat about it first.
"I've tried them on a few times over the years to see if you'd get the same feel for the ball and you just don't."
Glynn had a great game today - gloves or none!!
BTW Maybe Bab's was referring to kitchen gloves but couldn't have been Mycro gloves,

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 08/07/2018 18:40:41    2119725

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Replying To arock:  "Has Bab's Keating gone totally mad?
"One thing that caught my eye was Jonathan Glynn wearing a glove on both hands," Keating wrote.
"I don't know any hurler worth his salt who wouldn't sacrifice a rap on the hand to play in a Leinster final. It's unforgivable that the biggest and strongest fella on the pitch, 6ft 4in and nearly 16st, had to wear them on both hands.
"Gloves are a handicap in hurling, no question about it, and if I was Micheal Donoghue giving him a jersey, I'd have a serious chat about it first.
"I've tried them on a few times over the years to see if you'd get the same feel for the ball and you just don't."
Glynn had a great game today - gloves or none!!
BTW Maybe Bab's was referring to kitchen gloves but couldn't have been Mycro gloves,"
I think Babs should look at the Tipperary Gloves and see whats wrong! But he does hold a Record in Galway though.:WORST MANAGER WE EVER HAD

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 08/07/2018 19:05:36    2119732

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Replying To skillet:  "Lucky draw? Is it us you mean? We'll give them a game.."
Thankyou..I did mean Drawn Game! I hope Limerick comes out on top next week. We need to start beating them on a regular basis so other Counties like Wexford..Lim..Etc stops being afraid of them. Match them physically and you are half way there.

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 08/07/2018 19:10:30    2119739

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Replying To arock:  "Has Bab's Keating gone totally mad?
"One thing that caught my eye was Jonathan Glynn wearing a glove on both hands," Keating wrote.
"I don't know any hurler worth his salt who wouldn't sacrifice a rap on the hand to play in a Leinster final. It's unforgivable that the biggest and strongest fella on the pitch, 6ft 4in and nearly 16st, had to wear them on both hands.
"Gloves are a handicap in hurling, no question about it, and if I was Micheal Donoghue giving him a jersey, I'd have a serious chat about it first.
"I've tried them on a few times over the years to see if you'd get the same feel for the ball and you just don't."
Glynn had a great game today - gloves or none!!
BTW Maybe Bab's was referring to kitchen gloves but couldn't have been Mycro gloves,"
Johnny had a very good game today especially in first half but he seemed to find it very difficult to catch a ball cleanly throughout most of the game so whether that's because of rustiness from being away from the game for the best part of 2 years or whether it's because of the glove it is hard to know. Maybe he needs a glove like the one TJ Reid uses.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 08/07/2018 19:21:56    2119748

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "17 Steps exactly he took with first goal, without a hurley. My God what are the GAA going to do about these inept Officials?? Second Goal also questionable, but I will give them that. They have been beaten twice by us now and they got lucky draw. They are still in the All Ireland, and another set of inept officials could hand them an All Ireland."
Aylward overcarried but he was being fouled. I think refs let players away with "steps" if they think they're being fouled as a kind of "advantage" but there's no rule that allows that, it's just something they made up.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 08/07/2018 19:28:04    2119752

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Jonathan Glynn's inclusion made a big difference and unsettled the Kilkenny full back line, especially in the first half... he can wear 4 gloves next day if he can give Galway a similar boost. Think poor Babs harking back to his own manly exploits when he played the 2nd half of the 1971 final in his bare feet. The timing of Bab's judgement a little unfortunate, recall his "sheep in a heap" comment regarding Offaly hurlers 2 months before the won the Liam McCarthy in 1998. ( not the only Tipp man to refer to a panel as sheep .. V Hogan on Donegal months before the brought Sam to the hills in 2012)

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 08/07/2018 19:50:42    2119760

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Aylward overcarried but he was being fouled. I think refs let players away with "steps" if they think they're being fouled as a kind of "advantage" but there's no rule that allows that, it's just something they made up."
Sure I suppose every team gets away with something in every game! No real complaints, but it was so blatant. Maybe should have given him a Penalty. After what we had to endure in our Under 21 Game against Wexford, nothing surprises us anymore. The Gaa Might not like all these Leinster Cups ending down in Galway Connacht.

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 08/07/2018 20:49:27    2119788

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Really enjoyed the game today. Though Galway were outstanding for most. Kilkenny were an absolute credit to themselves. Most other teams would have been beaten by 15+ points.

Galway are firm favorites for Liam. Would love to see them play Limerick in the semi-final. I think that would be a cracker

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 08/07/2018 21:16:13    2119796

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Hard to understand the rte narrative about Cody building a new Kilkenny team.In every game,Kilkenny are being carried by their established players.TJ Reid(Always excellent )Padraig Walsh, )Paul Murphy and Richie Hogan and Colin Fennelly who were good when coming on today.The new players are either being dropped or subbed.Martin Keoghan didn't start today.Enda Morrissey and Richie Leahy were both taken off.I think Kilkenny are some way off building a new team.Cork are Galway's biggest threat this year.Cork are a fast improving team and Galway have never beaten Cork in a senior All-Ireland hurling Final.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 08/07/2018 21:51:07    2119807

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Replying To endgame:  "Hard to understand the rte narrative about Cody building a new Kilkenny team.In every game,Kilkenny are being carried by their established players.TJ Reid(Always excellent )Padraig Walsh, )Paul Murphy and Richie Hogan and Colin Fennelly who were good when coming on today.The new players are either being dropped or subbed.Martin Keoghan didn't start today.Enda Morrissey and Richie Leahy were both taken off.I think Kilkenny are some way off building a new team.Cork are Galway's biggest threat this year.Cork are a fast improving team and Galway have never beaten Cork in a senior All-Ireland hurling Final."
GALWAY don't care about things they didn't do before! Actually we are starting to do a lot of things we never did before in all grades of hurling. I agree though, Cork are favourites in a lot of people's books. They are the one's to be beat, as Munster hurling is way ahead of leinster.

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 09/07/2018 01:14:40    2119833

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Replying To endgame:  "Hard to understand the rte narrative about Cody building a new Kilkenny team.In every game,Kilkenny are being carried by their established players.TJ Reid(Always excellent )Padraig Walsh, )Paul Murphy and Richie Hogan and Colin Fennelly who were good when coming on today.The new players are either being dropped or subbed.Martin Keoghan didn't start today.Enda Morrissey and Richie Leahy were both taken off.I think Kilkenny are some way off building a new team.Cork are Galway's biggest threat this year.Cork are a fast improving team and Galway have never beaten Cork in a senior All-Ireland hurling Final."
What's hard to understand; players retire, new players come in to replace them.

"In every game,Kilkenny are being carried by their established players."

This is not true. Less then a month ago Kilkenny played Wexford for a place in the Leinster final. They were losing 1-11 to 0-7 at half-time. Cody replaced Fennellly and Hogan with Richie Leahy and John Donnelly. Both of these scored a brace of points in a great comeback and win for Kilkenny.

Look, most teams are a blend of youth and experience. In Kilkenny's case, they have lost a fair few hurlers over the last 3 years, brilliant hurlers at that, from one of the greatest teams of all time. I think Cody has done a great job this year, bringing in and blooding so many young players. This team has just gone toe to toe, over two games with the current AI Champions, and favourites to it again this year; and you say "Kilkenny are some way off building a new team"?

This is what Cody had to say after the Wexford match, which just about sums it up:

"Picking a team, there's nothing between so many of them," insisted Cody. "We started with the team we started with. The last few days we were bringing on experienced players, this time we're bringing on younger players. All of them are so important to the whole panel."

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2477 - 09/07/2018 08:36:56    2119858

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "GALWAY don't care about things they didn't do before! Actually we are starting to do a lot of things we never did before in all grades of hurling. I agree though, Cork are favourites in a lot of people's books. They are the one's to be beat, as Munster hurling is way ahead of leinster."
Munster hurling has been ahead of Leinster for the last 20 years. Yet Kilkenny have won most All-Irelands.

Galway Cork final would be great, I do think one wont make it!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 09/07/2018 09:09:03    2119867

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Great game for a finish but I wouldn't compare this Galway team to KK of 10 years ago as pundits have been doing. They would have smelled blood and won that game by 20 points. No doubt about it the Galway fans were worried yesterday when the game went back to a point. So in my opinion the confidence still isn't there within Galway that they are ready to dominate the hurling landscape. When the game was in the balance KK hit some poor wides from Hogan and Forgarty's miss that went to Hawkeye. I think if Clare beat Wexford they could catch Galway on the hop in the semi final.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 09/07/2018 09:43:50    2119879

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kk did well to comeback but hey got a bit of help there with the goals and other big calls, same old ref from 2015 final who did not use hawk eye at a critical moment then, thank God for the good umpires yesterday they saved Galway. Nice to have another Connacht-Leinster Title but it is just a means to an end. Ref should have been from Munster/Ullster or even Connacht. Gaillimh Abu

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 09/07/2018 10:18:05    2119896

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Replying To Faithfull:  "Great game for a finish but I wouldn't compare this Galway team to KK of 10 years ago as pundits have been doing. They would have smelled blood and won that game by 20 points. No doubt about it the Galway fans were worried yesterday when the game went back to a point. So in my opinion the confidence still isn't there within Galway that they are ready to dominate the hurling landscape. When the game was in the balance KK hit some poor wides from Hogan and Forgarty's miss that went to Hawkeye. I think if Clare beat Wexford they could catch Galway on the hop in the semi final."
It could easily have been a 20 points win or a loss for Galway yesterday. You're very selective with your examples. How about Joe Canning's miss, if that had gone in. Conor Whelan's miss near the end. The lucky goal KK got in the second have, back off the upright. How many steps did Alyward have to take to retrieve his hurley etc.
KK showed great character and tenacity as did Galway. Both teams deserve great credit for a wonderful game.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1806 - 09/07/2018 11:08:43    2119923

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Replying To Faithfull:  "Great game for a finish but I wouldn't compare this Galway team to KK of 10 years ago as pundits have been doing. They would have smelled blood and won that game by 20 points. No doubt about it the Galway fans were worried yesterday when the game went back to a point. So in my opinion the confidence still isn't there within Galway that they are ready to dominate the hurling landscape. When the game was in the balance KK hit some poor wides from Hogan and Forgarty's miss that went to Hawkeye. I think if Clare beat Wexford they could catch Galway on the hop in the semi final."
If Galway play the way they did in the first half yesterday then Clare or anyone else won't catch them this year.
They have strength in depth and that's vital. I could see them going on to win 3 in a row if they keep everyone onboard and healthy.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 09/07/2018 11:09:13    2119925

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