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Galway Vs Killkenny

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Thurles next weekend."
it could only happen in ireland and with the gaa loonies, a leinster final with a team from connacht in it and played in munster

cousinjohnjoe (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 01/07/2018 20:43:07    2117384

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Thurles next weekend."
it could only happen in ireland and with the gaa loonies, a leinster final with a team from connacht in it and played in munster

cousinjohnjoe (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 01/07/2018 20:43:14    2117385

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Cork would beat either of those two teams and beat them well. Now I know we 'll look for a big improvement from both teams and it was a physical encounter but please don't insult people's intelligence by saying this was a good hurling match. The sloppiness out of Galway was shocking. Joe Cannings misses were very poor but he was reasonable in general play.. Kilkenny are what Loughnane has said they are..'functional'. If they get to An All Ireland Semi then Galway need to get the brandy bottle and revolver from the drawer in the Study."
I thought Limerick were the Kings of Munster this Year???

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 01/07/2018 21:06:00    2117405

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "I thought Limerick were the Kings of Munster this Year???"
No, kings of ireland every year!!

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 01/07/2018 21:47:12    2117417

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Cork would beat either of those two teams and beat them well. Now I know we 'll look for a big improvement from both teams and it was a physical encounter but please don't insult people's intelligence by saying this was a good hurling match. The sloppiness out of Galway was shocking. Joe Cannings misses were very poor but he was reasonable in general play.. Kilkenny are what Loughnane has said they are..'functional'. If they get to An All Ireland Semi then Galway need to get the brandy bottle and revolver from the drawer in the Study."
I know you're coming at it from the POV that "Munster hurling is best" but I agree with most of your post. You just ruined it with the first line.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 02/07/2018 01:25:31    2117469

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Cork would beat either of those two teams and beat them well. Now I know we 'll look for a big improvement from both teams and it was a physical encounter but please don't insult people's intelligence by saying this was a good hurling match. The sloppiness out of Galway was shocking. Joe Cannings misses were very poor but he was reasonable in general play.. Kilkenny are what Loughnane has said they are..'functional'. If they get to An All Ireland Semi then Galway need to get the brandy bottle and revolver from the drawer in the Study."
Not sure if I'd necessarily agree, yes Cork have been extremely impressive all year, but have they have not yet met anyone with the physicality of Galway or Kilkenny. There are massive scores been put up in Munster all year, great to watch in fairness, but what will happen when Cork come against teams who will dominate them physically. As regards the Leinster final, not a great spectacle, and hard to know what to make of it. Galway were poor, Kilkenny with an average enough side did what they always do, and fought to the bitter end. You would think that Galway have more room to improve, but yesterday worried me in that they didn't seem to have the same drive or resolve of last year. Hopefully I'm wrong, but maybe Galway are happy enough with their one All Ireland?

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 02/07/2018 08:47:22    2117493

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lads,dont feed the trolls......

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 02/07/2018 11:09:42    2117586

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Replying To gilly2308:  "Not sure if I'd necessarily agree, yes Cork have been extremely impressive all year, but have they have not yet met anyone with the physicality of Galway or Kilkenny. There are massive scores been put up in Munster all year, great to watch in fairness, but what will happen when Cork come against teams who will dominate them physically. As regards the Leinster final, not a great spectacle, and hard to know what to make of it. Galway were poor, Kilkenny with an average enough side did what they always do, and fought to the bitter end. You would think that Galway have more room to improve, but yesterday worried me in that they didn't seem to have the same drive or resolve of last year. Hopefully I'm wrong, but maybe Galway are happy enough with their one All Ireland?"
Definitely they wouldn't be happy with one All Ireland. Think the main problem was there was too much talk about them coming into this match, both from fans and media, that we were so far ahead of all the other teams and it was "our All Ireland to lose". Utter guff of course but it's the kind of nonsense that can and does seep into the heads of players no matter how much they think they're immune from it. The David Burke comment about KK being " afraid" of Galway indicated as much. It wouldn't have driven on KK more than they would anyway but it betrayed a mindset that had probably developed in the team that we would beat KK without having to push ourselves too hard. Yesterday was the kick up the ass this team badly needed and if they are serious about retaining their All Ireland title they'll need to raise their performance 2 or 3 notches next Sunday.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 02/07/2018 11:24:49    2117603

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I'd be very wary of Kilkenny in a replay. Has Brian Cody ever lost one? He seems to know exactly what's required the second time round.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 02/07/2018 12:07:01    2117637

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I'd be very wary of Kilkenny in a replay. Has Brian Cody ever lost one? He seems to know exactly what's required the second time round."
Dublin beat them in a Leinster semi final replay in 2013, but yeah apart from that one blip, their replay record under Cody is pretty much flawless. This is a massive game for both teams, lose and the losing team then faces a game against Limerick six or seven days later in an All Ireland quarter final, and there is no doubt that Limerick would fancy their chances against either side.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 02/07/2018 12:51:58    2117661

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Definitely they wouldn't be happy with one All Ireland. Think the main problem was there was too much talk about them coming into this match, both from fans and media, that we were so far ahead of all the other teams and it was "our All Ireland to lose". Utter guff of course but it's the kind of nonsense that can and does seep into the heads of players no matter how much they think they're immune from it. The David Burke comment about KK being " afraid" of Galway indicated as much. It wouldn't have driven on KK more than they would anyway but it betrayed a mindset that had probably developed in the team that we would beat KK without having to push ourselves too hard. Yesterday was the kick up the ass this team badly needed and if they are serious about retaining their All Ireland title they'll need to raise their performance 2 or 3 notches next Sunday."
Need to improve if Galway were to win on Sunday. Kilkenny went in as underdogs, and nearly pulled off a win.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1743 - 02/07/2018 13:14:16    2117676

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Would like to see a name change to "Connacht-Leinster Final" for parity of esteem for us outlanders. Semple Stadium is grande for the replay.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 02/07/2018 13:27:20    2117687

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I think Galway will improve but they 'll need to work harder. They are abit tired looking if I'm honest. I don't know why that is but it looks like they are not as fit as last year. Kilkenny will improve too and Richie Hogan might be able to play for longer. TJ Reid and Walty Walsh were held yesterday and may have more for the replay.
Cork are never really dominated physically. They don't particularly play a physical game but they can mix it. Limerick tested them with work rate but didn't bully them.

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 02/07/2018 13:53:47    2117706

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If KK win Leinster, Galway might bate them later in the year, that would suit.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 02/07/2018 14:35:28    2117729

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Well done Kilkenny on proving yet again that Brian Cody's philosophy of hard work and honesty are the key to getting the maximum from the individual and the collective. Add in determination and belief and you have a winning formula for any field (double meaning ). Galway might feel they underperformed, but you have to credit Kilkenny for not allowing them to reach the standards they might have expected. It's refreshing to see BC sticking to what he believes in and adjusting tactically when he has to. No baffling formations, no rocket science, no clipboards, just hard work and honesty on the day. Kilkenny are a team in transition, but BC gets the absolute maximun from his players, big or small. BC reminds me a lot of Manchester United under Ferguson - star names come and go but the high standards are always maintained. Kilkenny are not going away.

Sliotharyslope (Wexford) - Posts: 136 - 02/07/2018 16:13:56    2117782

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Replying To Sliotharyslope:  "Well done Kilkenny on proving yet again that Brian Cody's philosophy of hard work and honesty are the key to getting the maximum from the individual and the collective. Add in determination and belief and you have a winning formula for any field (double meaning ). Galway might feel they underperformed, but you have to credit Kilkenny for not allowing them to reach the standards they might have expected. It's refreshing to see BC sticking to what he believes in and adjusting tactically when he has to. No baffling formations, no rocket science, no clipboards, just hard work and honesty on the day. Kilkenny are a team in transition, but BC gets the absolute maximun from his players, big or small. BC reminds me a lot of Manchester United under Ferguson - star names come and go but the high standards are always maintained. Kilkenny are not going away."
Spot on. There were a lot of people before the game (some from Galway, but many not) who declared that anything less than a Galway win was proof that the team was underachieving/overrated. I don't know how anyone could so easily write off a KK side in a Leinster final under Brian Cody. They didn't get to the final by chance!

The lad from Antrim above, is also correct. Cody's specialty is tweeking his team for a replay in a manner that completely negates the opposition's efforts to impose their own game plan. I do think Galway can improve a lot on their performance yesterday, and if both teams play to their full potential I think Galway would come out on top. But there's no way that's a given.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 02/07/2018 17:40:28    2117832

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I'd be very wary of Kilkenny in a replay. Has Brian Cody ever lost one? He seems to know exactly what's required the second time round."
June 29th 2013.
Leinster s/final replay.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/07/2018 17:48:52    2117837

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Would like to see a name change to "Connacht-Leinster Final" for parity of esteem for us outlanders. Semple Stadium is grande for the replay."
You can like what you want, but remember you're in Leinster because you were invited; you're a guest. If you don't like the status quo, you're free to leave.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2477 - 02/07/2018 18:27:10    2117852

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I'd be very wary of Kilkenny in a replay. Has Brian Cody ever lost one? He seems to know exactly what's required the second time round."
Indeed Saffron, Cody doesn't lose replays generally, apart from that one 2013 blip against the Dubs. His ability to hammer the hammer in replays is second to none. It looks like Galway have blown their chance yesterday, letting a 3 point lead slip late on. KK won't make the same mistakes in the replay.

Interesting that when Cody was fielding teams of all-ireland winning calibre, up to about 2015 or 2016, he would always state to the media that there was no such thing as favorites. Yet, in his interview yesterday, one of the points that he was at pains to make on RTE was that Galway were 'expected' to win the drawn game, and will be 'expected' to win the replay too. He was effectively saying that Galway were & are favorites in the tie, even though he liked to state that there was no such thing as favorites, in his view, when his sides were generally top dogs 2000-2015. He is inconsistent in that aspect.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3427 - 02/07/2018 20:11:56    2117895

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "You can like what you want, but remember you're in Leinster because you were invited; you're a guest. If you don't like the status quo, you're free to leave."
Ah fair is fair. It's the rest of Ireland championship. No point in looking back.

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 02/07/2018 20:32:32    2117905

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