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Should Dublin demand to play all their home games in Parnell Park from here on? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 21:43:24 2116163 Link
Won't happen and I don't think anybody really wants that. The Donegal game should be in Clones imo or if happened to be Kerry for example it should be in Semole. joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 218 - 27/06/2018 22:05:02 2116175 Link
No reason why not. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 27/06/2018 22:09:10 2116179 Link
Replying To if_in_doubt: "No reason why not." 3 people disagree with you so far jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 22:31:55 2116196 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Should Dublin demand to play all their home games in Parnell Park from here on?" You talking about the minors? mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 27/06/2018 22:33:17 2116197 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Should Dublin demand to play all their home games in Parnell Park from here on?" Yes. festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 27/06/2018 22:41:28 2116203 Link
Replying To joeteor: "Won't happen and I don't think anybody really wants that. The Donegal game should be in Clones imo or if happened to be Kerry for example it should be in Semole." I think you're wrong there I think many GAA people don't want Dublin's home games in CP. Regardless of the exposure and financial benefits I'd much prefer them being in PP It would become a fortress with Dub season ticket holders and Parnell pass holders making up the vast % of supporters Why should Dublin be the cash cow for the organisation.. when it's so badly received . Sod rival fans getting tickets. Sod the Leinster council wanting Dublin in Croke Park to bolster their coffers every year.. Why can't all our home games be in PP Sod the massive revenue lost. Feck then money men in CP and Leinster council.. feck then dictators making Dublin play all their games in Croke Park for financial gain. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 22:42:45 2116205 Link
Croke Park is a fortress anyway, have they lost there since Donegal in 2014? Fair enough about your other points. joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 218 - 27/06/2018 23:14:59 2116220 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "3 people disagree with you so far" Yet no reasons or posts stating why they disagree... if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 27/06/2018 23:24:14 2116225 Link
Replying To mhunicean_abu: "You talking about the minors?" :) Haha v good Great win in fairness "Leinster football is dead" jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 23:52:06 2116240 Link
Replying To joeteor: "Won't happen and I don't think anybody really wants that. The Donegal game should be in Clones imo or if happened to be Kerry for example it should be in Semole." I want the dubs out of crokepark, crokepark belongs to all of us not just the dubs, also i want them traveling the country like the rest of us, I want them getting the same money as the rest of us , also I want more games in provincial venues, taking ourselves and Galway to crokepark for our neutral venue is a total joke putting the teams and supporters under financial pressure when the game should be on in limerick or Thurles. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/06/2018 01:22:57 2116259 Link
Kildare have shown ye what to do now If ye want to play in yer home stadium. Why doesn't Jim Gavin and county board ever mention parnell park? tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 602 - 28/06/2018 03:34:33 2116267 Link
If Dublin want to play their home games there then absolutely. The only problem there would be a huge outcry from the massive amount of Dublin fans who would be locked out of games. It would seem totally nonsensical to me exclude a huge number of your fan base (even if a lot of them are of the more casual variety) and also exclude a huge amount of youngsters who would be the next generation of Dublin supporters. But nonetheless if they wanted to proceed down that crazy road they should be fully entitled to. the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 28/06/2018 08:35:28 2116282 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "I think you're wrong there I think many GAA people don't want Dublin's home games in CP. Regardless of the exposure and financial benefits I'd much prefer them being in PP It would become a fortress with Dub season ticket holders and Parnell pass holders making up the vast % of supporters Why should Dublin be the cash cow for the organisation.. when it's so badly received . Sod rival fans getting tickets. Sod the Leinster council wanting Dublin in Croke Park to bolster their coffers every year.. Why can't all our home games be in PP Sod the massive revenue lost. Feck then money men in CP and Leinster council.. feck then dictators making Dublin play all their games in Croke Park for financial gain." Dublin could be playing all their home league matches in Parnell Park but they are not and that is of their choosing, they rent Croke Park for home league matches, no one is forcing them to play there during the league it's their own call, as per Philly McMahon in the Indo; "When Dublin use Croke Park as a home venue, they rent it, so anyone can rent it. It's up to their counties to rent it if they want. "It's not as if we're getting something that nobody else can get. "If other counties want to rent Croke Park, they can rent it. Now quite possibly they pay a rent to use it as a home venue in Leinster as well I'm not sure but what a one dimensional view by Philly, he goes on to state; "Just for us with the fans that we have it probably makes more sense to put it in Croke Park. "It's very important that if we have a good fan base... we already have an issue when we get to All-Ireland finals that there are so many fans that go to all the games that miss the All-Ireland finals. "So for us to play games in Croke Park, it's a no-brainer. Why would you play in a smaller venue, and not facilitate your fans? Ok Philly we keep the Dubs fans happy and to hell with the rest is it? In my humble opinion this is a blinkered view of things, one has to look at the bigger picture. Why is so much much money being paid to "rent" Croke Park that could be used to further invest in games development or towards the development of a suitable home ground for Dublin? Why is the GAA allowing one county to rent Croke Park so frequently and call it their de facto home instead of looking for them to develop their own home venue? As for other counties renting Croke Park well that is a silly remark, why would other counties rent Croker and drag their supporters up to Dublin for a league match or a Leinster quarter final putting expense on people and depriving their home patch of income, and if Philly thinks other county boards could even afford to rent Croker then he is off his head so it's not the case that Dublin are getting something that everyone can get, Philly is wrong on that one but then again a lot of people are wrong when it comes to this situation. Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 28/06/2018 09:33:37 2116292 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "I think you're wrong there I think many GAA people don't want Dublin's home games in CP. Regardless of the exposure and financial benefits I'd much prefer them being in PP It would become a fortress with Dub season ticket holders and Parnell pass holders making up the vast % of supporters Why should Dublin be the cash cow for the organisation.. when it's so badly received . Sod rival fans getting tickets. Sod the Leinster council wanting Dublin in Croke Park to bolster their coffers every year.. Why can't all our home games be in PP Sod the massive revenue lost. Feck then money men in CP and Leinster council.. feck then dictators making Dublin play all their games in Croke Park for financial gain." Forced?? Dublin County Board and GAA HQ in 2009/2010 agreed to a mutually beneficial agreeement where Dublin would play their league games in Croke Park - no one had a gun to their head. With regard to the Leinster championship Dublin have had a number of chances to vote to move out of Croker over the last few years so clearly the Dublin County Board are happy with the current arrangement. This has worked out pretty well for both sides so far - more money for HQ and more success for the Dubs which is obviously in some small way caused by playing "at home" in Croker all the time. razor425 (Roscommon) - Posts: 45 - 28/06/2018 09:41:27 2116296 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "3 people disagree with you so far" 3/8 GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 28/06/2018 09:48:51 2116299 Link
I would love to see our home game played in Parnell Pk. It'd make for a brilliant atmosphere! Either that or the 'neutral' game in Clones, Breffni, Newry, Castlebar or somewhere random. It'd be great. As two Croke Pk games goes against the point of the Super 8s imo. I think Kildare (Ros too) have shown counties the way, if something is unfair, don't pointlessly complain like we've seen from Laois, Carlow and Wicklow over the last few years. Do something about it and make it abundantly clear what you intend to do about it. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 28/06/2018 10:03:21 2116304 Link
Personally, Im getting a bit tired of people on here from other counties whinging about their grievances. What about us ? We haven't got to play a game at home (league or championship) since 2009 or something mad like that. Every single one of our league games have either been played away from home (fine by me) or in a neutral venue, a venue owned by the GAA, not Dublin county board and Parnell park, our home ground, is being left there, unused. I mean, You guys don't understand what its like for a fan on hill16 in February in the hail and rain, At least at home in Parnell park we have a roof over our head to keep us somewhat dry. A bit of an atmosphere too The super 8's are starting and everyone is talking about Donegal having two away games, At least they have a home game, None of our games are in our home, Parnell park .. Its all unfair. We are simply being used and abused. If Kildare can get a home championship game (good for them, well done) then why cant we ? Quite frankly, I think we don't get enough credit for our successes. We broke the Kerry record of games unbeaten last year, made even more impressive by the fact not one of those games where played in our home ground. Its like Arsenals invincible league season, imagine them doing that with all their games away from Highbury. I think Dublin should go to the CCCCCCCcccc next year and take a leaf out of Kildares book, Tell them we wont turn up in a neutral venue for our home league games jst because more people can fit in Croke park than Parnell park .. AS Michael Buble says, I wanna go home .. #JUSTICEFORTHEDUBS waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 28/06/2018 10:25:10 2116312 Link
Should Dublin demand to play all their home games in Parnell Park from here on? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18248 - 27/06/2018 21:43:24 Nope. Croke Park suits Dublin's needs, the needs of both sets of fans and the commercial benefits to the GAA. I realise you're very much talking with tongue in cheek here, though. I want the dubs out of crokepark... I want them getting the same money as the rest of us... KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 7215 - 28/06/2018 01:22:57 The "rest of us"? Are you seriously comparing Kerry's finances to Leitrim's, Wicklow's etc.? Dublin may be getting a larger slice of the pie but Kerry are hardly dining on scraps that fall from the table. With regard to the Leinster championship Dublin have had a number of chances to vote to move out of Croker over the last few years so clearly the Dublin County Board are happy with the current arrangement... razor425 (Roscommon) - Posts: 40 - 28/06/2018 09:41:27 Dublin have one vote on the Leinster council. The last vote on the subject was defeated 10-2. If Dublin were part of the 10 (it was an anonymous vote) and changed their mind, the motion would still be defeated 9-3. How have Dublin "had a number of chances to vote to move out of Croker" on this basis? Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 28/06/2018 10:39:35 2116318 Link
Replying To Kurt_Angle: "Should Dublin demand to play all their home games in Parnell Park from here on? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18248 - 27/06/2018 21:43:24 Nope. Croke Park suits Dublin's needs, the needs of both sets of fans and the commercial benefits to the GAA. I realise you're very much talking with tongue in cheek here, though. I want the dubs out of crokepark... I want them getting the same money as the rest of us... KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 7215 - 28/06/2018 01:22:57 The "rest of us"? Are you seriously comparing Kerry's finances to Leitrim's, Wicklow's etc.? Dublin may be getting a larger slice of the pie but Kerry are hardly dining on scraps that fall from the table. With regard to the Leinster championship Dublin have had a number of chances to vote to move out of Croker over the last few years so clearly the Dublin County Board are happy with the current arrangement... razor425 (Roscommon) - Posts: 40 - 28/06/2018 09:41:27 Dublin have one vote on the Leinster council. The last vote on the subject was defeated 10-2. If Dublin were part of the 10 (it was an anonymous vote) and changed their mind, the motion would still be defeated 9-3. How have Dublin "had a number of chances to vote to move out of Croker" on this basis?" The 2 previous ones were 11-1 with only the proposing county voting in favour - yes that means the games would still be in Croker but it also means that 1. Dublin have had a number of chances to vote to move away from Croker and 2. They have chosen to vote to stay there. My original point was probably poorly worded - "Dublin have had a number of chances to vote to move out of Croker" - the fact it wouldn't have passed is irrelevant. razor425 (Roscommon) - Posts: 45 - 28/06/2018 11:04:49 2116330 Link