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Rigged Qualifier Draws

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Jfc you lads are some mental cases.

There's no way the GAA would fix the draw to their championship.

How many people are involved in broadcasting a draw like that. They'd all keep quiet about a fix. It'd be a huge story, no way in hell that wouldn't break. No way would the GAA even try to implement that.

I mean how would they even begin to go about it."
That was a bit like my shocked reaction in 2002 and beyond regarding a scandal regarding a totally different respected and major national institution - if you follow my cryptic line !
Shocked beyond 'belief'.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2598 - 25/06/2018 21:14:44    2114977

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Just heard Liam Brady explain why Ronaldo was not sent off this evening against Iran "They (FIFA) want the big teams in the tournament". Same does for the GAA, they are prepared to anything to achieve that.

Independent12 (Carlow) - Posts: 20 - 25/06/2018 21:21:30    2114985

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Replying To Independent12:  "Just heard Liam Brady explain why Ronaldo was not sent off this evening against Iran "They (FIFA) want the big teams in the tournament". Same does for the GAA, they are prepared to anything to achieve that."
That would explain the penalty not given to Meath. We will even let that one down to mistakes by ref. But the blatant push on the back on Meath player at end of game and for ref to Clearly see in a totally unhindered view , and to not give it. Tyrone are bigger box office than Meath these days. Rigged.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2018 21:31:28    2114992

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Let's just say that there have been more than a couple of dodgy coincidences. And if you think it's not possible to rig a draw you would be very naive.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 25/06/2018 21:33:13    2114993

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Jfc you lads are some mental cases.

There's no way the GAA would fix the draw to their championship.

How many people are involved in broadcasting a draw like that. They'd all keep quiet about a fix. It'd be a huge story, no way in hell that wouldn't break. No way would the GAA even try to implement that.

I mean how would they even begin to go about it."
You hear or cool certain balls. I mean Platini spoke a few weeks ago about how they fixed the World Cup draw in 98, how can you think it's so unlikely.

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 217 - 25/06/2018 21:46:34    2115005

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Replying To royaldunne:  "That would explain the penalty not given to Meath. We will even let that one down to mistakes by ref. But the blatant push on the back on Meath player at end of game and for ref to Clearly see in a totally unhindered view , and to not give it. Tyrone are bigger box office than Meath these days. Rigged."
But there is clear evidence it wasn't a penalty. Everyone seen the slow mo and the foul was outside the box.
It was a free for Meath at the end but the free Meath got to go 1 up wasn't a free.
Really is time to build a bridge Royal.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 25/06/2018 21:49:06    2115010

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Can't see it been rigged to be honest. As someone said the amount of people involved in the draw, from the production team on RTE to the GAA, to the presenters, someone would bound to leak it. I just can't see it. I mean Tyrone Cavan wouldn't be that well attended. Would they not have paired Mayo and Monaghan and Tyrone and Armagh?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 25/06/2018 21:52:12    2115012

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Rigged qualifiers?

What about rigged matches?!

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1790 - 25/06/2018 21:53:55    2115013

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "But there is clear evidence it wasn't a penalty. Everyone seen the slow mo and the foul was outside the box.
It was a free for Meath at the end but the free Meath got to go 1 up wasn't a free.
Really is time to build a bridge Royal."
Maybe it was out of sympathy for harte that the ref did it. But he made sure Tyrone won unfairly.
As for building bridges? Yeah come back to me when u get over 96. Whingers. The great? My ass.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2018 22:00:29    2115018

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Maybe it was out of sympathy for harte that the ref did it. But he made sure Tyrone won unfairly.
As for building bridges? Yeah come back to me when u get over 96. Whingers. The great? My ass."
Give it a rest rd this thread has nothing got to do with that game! The gaa is in disarray we need proper football and hurling men that have been involved with teams in recent years to run the organisation

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 25/06/2018 22:09:50    2115028

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "Give it a rest rd this thread has nothing got to do with that game! The gaa is in disarray we need proper football and hurling men that have been involved with teams in recent years to run the organisation"
I responded, perhaps you don't think that game was rigged, that's your right. I however do think it was. And is relevant.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/06/2018 22:14:05    2115036

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I wouldn't put it past them, the GAA has turned into a twisted organization only interested in making money."
Talk us through rigged draws in the Munster SFC - that cosy arrangement which means Kerry end up practically vaccinated against provincial quarter final appearances.

Whatever you think about the qualifiers, at least each team that should be there starts out in the same hat.

Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 357 - 25/06/2018 22:14:15    2115037

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It is quite easy to rig a draw. Easier again to do it on radio. Follow the money if you want likelihood. You will never be able to prove it though.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 25/06/2018 22:35:07    2115054

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Maybe it was out of sympathy for harte that the ref did it. But he made sure Tyrone won unfairly.
As for building bridges? Yeah come back to me when u get over 96. Whingers. The great? My ass."
Sympathy for Mickey Harte? Has to be the most ridiculous statement ever made. I actually feel sorry for you Royal

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 25/06/2018 22:40:23    2115059

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Replying To Donegalman:  "It is quite easy to rig a draw. Easier again to do it on radio. Follow the money if you want likelihood. You will never be able to prove it though."
Follow the money.

Mate, there's not much money in the GAA.

Honestly how much extra money is to be made from fixing the draw.

It's not unlikely at all that Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan would all be kept apart.

The chance of Mayo playing Tyrone or Monaghan in an open 8 team draw is 2/7.

In the 5/7 of the time that Mayo don't play Tyrone or Monaghan. Tyrone and Monaghan will only play one another 1 in 5 times.

So 5/7 by 4/5 times none of the 3 of them play each other.

4/7 fair draws will not have a pairing featuring Tyrone, Monaghan or Mayo against one another.

Yet fix.

Right.

Catch a grip.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 25/06/2018 22:59:17    2115074

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Jfc you lads are some mental cases.

There's no way the GAA would fix the draw to their championship.

How many people are involved in broadcasting a draw like that. They'd all keep quiet about a fix. It'd be a huge story, no way in hell that wouldn't break. No way would the GAA even try to implement that.

I mean how would they even begin to go about it."
Heat and freeze the capsules. If you want Cavan and Kildare to be drawn out first against Tyrone or Mayo you put the Cavan and Kildare capsules in the freezer overnight. Put the other two into boiling water before the draw. Boom you've got it sorted.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 25/06/2018 23:00:20    2115075

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Replying To joeteor:  "You hear or cool certain balls. I mean Platini spoke a few weeks ago about how they fixed the World Cup draw in 98, how can you think it's so unlikely."
https://mobile.twitter.com/jonawils/status/997451037639430144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.football365.com%2Fnews%2Fplatini-france-fixed-1998-world-cup-for-brazil-final

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 25/06/2018 23:22:53    2115095

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Follow the money.

Mate, there's not much money in the GAA.

Honestly how much extra money is to be made from fixing the draw.

It's not unlikely at all that Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan would all be kept apart.

The chance of Mayo playing Tyrone or Monaghan in an open 8 team draw is 2/7.

In the 5/7 of the time that Mayo don't play Tyrone or Monaghan. Tyrone and Monaghan will only play one another 1 in 5 times.

So 5/7 by 4/5 times none of the 3 of them play each other.

4/7 fair draws will not have a pairing featuring Tyrone, Monaghan or Mayo against one another.

Yet fix.

Right.

Catch a grip."
If you think there is not much money in the GAA you need to reassess your opinion.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 26/06/2018 01:43:13    2115140

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Jfc you lads are some mental cases.

There's no way the GAA would fix the draw to their championship.

How many people are involved in broadcasting a draw like that. They'd all keep quiet about a fix. It'd be a huge story, no way in hell that wouldn't break. No way would the GAA even try to implement that.

I mean how would they even begin to go about it."
You know the GAA as an organisation are in serious trouble going forward when this level of distrust exists within it among the ordinary members. Widespread distrust is the deathknell of any organisation in the long term. They bring a lot of it on themselves of course by, for instance, changing competition rules whimsically and unjustly insisting that Kildare surrender home venue to Mayo and must play the game in Croke Park.

I understand why the conspiracy theories have started but it is absolutely preposterous. Suddenly feels like I've woken up in Trump's America with paranoia and suspicion taking over.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 26/06/2018 05:13:16    2115147

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I don't believe that the draw is rigged but taking home advantage away from Kildare and Cavan is just scandalous, I know Breffni Park is not available but Cavan should have been allowed to choose an alternative venue. I hope Kildare don't budge on their stance, fair play to them."
If the GAA were really as nefarious as is being made out, surely they could have easily rigged the draw so that Kidare and Cavan were playing away and they could have avoided all this Newbridgegate hassle.

SwissFarney (Monaghan) - Posts: 11 - 26/06/2018 08:54:16    2115176

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