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Replying To Kiwiq: "Cheers Royaldunne, have to say you have really gone up in my estimation with your take on all this." Ahh now your fellow countymen will linch me lol. Look this is a situation where normal football rivalries and tribalism should be put aside. I'll even be shouting for Kildare this Saturday. We have our battles and disagreements, however this situation was not one that could continue, I know mcentee would probably have done the same thing if it were Meath. However I cannot be certain the cb would have backed him in it. The gaa have turned themselves into a elite professional set up, all grand I have no problem with that. However they have done this to the detriment of outside of 4 at most 5 counties they really couldn't care less about the rest, in that group are both Kildare and Meath. If either or both are ever to challenge dubs monopoly on Leinster/all ire there has to be a level playing field . Kildare rightly took a stand and I for one are very proud that they did. So come on the Lillie's. Really give hq a headache and not have the mayo money in the super 8s. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2018 15:26:26 2116021 Link
Replying To if_in_doubt: "Wait until next year when we're back in division 2 and he'll go right back down. But sure ya wouldn't have it any other way RD :)" Of course, I'll be giving you' lot hell. :) . But that's the Royal fan in me. The football fan in me sees Kildare were wronged, not by a bad ref decision (we all have had them) or a unfortunate set of events, they were wronged by those who are charged with implementing all things equally, and furthermore there was a blatant untruth given as a excuse, that really got my back up tbh. And then they double downed on that lie, when everyone else was saying sorry you're wrong there. Kildare have won, but not only for themselves, they have won for the ordinary members, who traipse the country following their county, or even showing up to train the 12s 14s , pack the bags at checkout out. Or whatever. For that the general gaa public owe Kildare a huge debt of gratitude. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2018 15:33:38 2116022 Link
Well that escalated quickly. The furore over the venue has really made things interesting. I'm worried. LeftHalfBack10 (Mayo) - Posts: 30 - 27/06/2018 15:42:39 2116027 Link
Hopefully now we can concentrate on the match. unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 27/06/2018 15:44:36 2116028 Link
I've been online & bought a load of stuff for Saturday, I'll be selling outside the ground if anyone's interested. Hard hats & safety gear for all those in fear for their health, knuckle dusters & batons for those Mayo lads without tickets who will be driving up to cause trouble & first aid kits for the inevitable thousands of casualties. I'm going to clean up! KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 27/06/2018 15:59:15 2116032 Link
A manufactured, undignified crisis. Having got his way, the Kildare manager now has no more excuses. If Kildare now don't win, he's going to look a bit foolish. All he's done is upped the pressure on his team for nothing but so-called 'home advantage' which nowadays means nothing to any properly-prepared team. Having made his point, far smarter to have made the short (for Kildare) trip to Croke Park with a good siege mentality and a point to prove. My late Dad cycled 30 miles to Clones to play for Tyrone, and cycled home again afterwards, and thought nothing of it, ffs. Snowflakes now can't go 30 miles up the road in an air-conditioned coach without crying about it. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 27/06/2018 16:00:21 2116033 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Ahh now your fellow countymen will linch me lol. Look this is a situation where normal football rivalries and tribalism should be put aside. I'll even be shouting for Kildare this Saturday. We have our battles and disagreements, however this situation was not one that could continue, I know mcentee would probably have done the same thing if it were Meath. However I cannot be certain the cb would have backed him in it. The gaa have turned themselves into a elite professional set up, all grand I have no problem with that. However they have done this to the detriment of outside of 4 at most 5 counties they really couldn't care less about the rest, in that group are both Kildare and Meath. If either or both are ever to challenge dubs monopoly on Leinster/all ire there has to be a level playing field . Kildare rightly took a stand and I for one are very proud that they did. So come on the Lillie's. Really give hq a headache and not have the mayo money in the super 8s." "Mayo money"? Good grief I've heard it all now. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 27/06/2018 16:13:05 2116039 Link
Replying To essmac: "A manufactured, undignified crisis. Having got his way, the Kildare manager now has no more excuses. If Kildare now don't win, he's going to look a bit foolish. All he's done is upped the pressure on his team for nothing but so-called 'home advantage' which nowadays means nothing to any properly-prepared team. Having made his point, far smarter to have made the short (for Kildare) trip to Croke Park with a good siege mentality and a point to prove. My late Dad cycled 30 miles to Clones to play for Tyrone, and cycled home again afterwards, and thought nothing of it, ffs. Snowflakes now can't go 30 miles up the road in an air-conditioned coach without crying about it." That is one of the most ill-informed posts I have ever read. If you think home advantage isn't worth anything you mustn't know anything about GAA. It's a statistical fact that home advantage matters. As for o neill , Win or lose he has gone up in my estimation and I don't see how the result affects a brave stance. Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 27/06/2018 16:19:06 2116042 Link
Replying To Gleebo: ""Mayo money"? Good grief I've heard it all now." Money Mayoweather? gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 27/06/2018 16:22:10 2116044 Link
Replying To Gleebo: ""Mayo money"? Good grief I've heard it all now." Mayo are better supported than most counties, do u not agree? Hence they bring more to the gaa. Money that is. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2018 16:24:35 2116045 Link
Replying To essmac: "A manufactured, undignified crisis. Having got his way, the Kildare manager now has no more excuses. If Kildare now don't win, he's going to look a bit foolish. All he's done is upped the pressure on his team for nothing but so-called 'home advantage' which nowadays means nothing to any properly-prepared team. Having made his point, far smarter to have made the short (for Kildare) trip to Croke Park with a good siege mentality and a point to prove. My late Dad cycled 30 miles to Clones to play for Tyrone, and cycled home again afterwards, and thought nothing of it, ffs. Snowflakes now can't go 30 miles up the road in an air-conditioned coach without crying about it." lol Fair fecks to your Da! jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 16:24:47 2116046 Link
Replying To essmac: "A manufactured, undignified crisis. Having got his way, the Kildare manager now has no more excuses. If Kildare now don't win, he's going to look a bit foolish. All he's done is upped the pressure on his team for nothing but so-called 'home advantage' which nowadays means nothing to any properly-prepared team. Having made his point, far smarter to have made the short (for Kildare) trip to Croke Park with a good siege mentality and a point to prove. My late Dad cycled 30 miles to Clones to play for Tyrone, and cycled home again afterwards, and thought nothing of it, ffs. Snowflakes now can't go 30 miles up the road in an air-conditioned coach without crying about it." Well dibs to your dad but everyone cycled back then. But now we all gave our colour tellies to watch the GAA on SKY. I'm sure Mayo's air conditioned coach will be glad to stop an hour earlier into Newbridge on Saturday. As for this pressure on O'Neill you are trying to manufacture, that's pure rubbish. He led the county on an issue of right and wrong. Kildare and all right and fair minded people were wrong, the GAA and the likes of you were wrong and now are bitter about it. If you lads were all that great about playing anywhere, how come you got your arses handed back to you last year when you to Croker to play Dublin? Your game plan fell apart on a pitch that didn't suit it!! As for snowflakes............we aren't the ones with a manager none of you seem to want but you are all terrified to move. Snowflakes is right! kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 27/06/2018 16:26:58 2116048 Link
Hoping for a good game now and a Kildare win - then we can do this all over again in a couple of weeks! blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 267 - 27/06/2018 16:27:20 2116049 Link
Replying To kildare73: "Well dibs to your dad but everyone cycled back then. But now we all gave our colour tellies to watch the GAA on SKY. I'm sure Mayo's air conditioned coach will be glad to stop an hour earlier into Newbridge on Saturday. As for this pressure on O'Neill you are trying to manufacture, that's pure rubbish. He led the county on an issue of right and wrong. Kildare and all right and fair minded people were wrong, the GAA and the likes of you were wrong and now are bitter about it. If you lads were all that great about playing anywhere, how come you got your arses handed back to you last year when you to Croker to play Dublin? Your game plan fell apart on a pitch that didn't suit it!! As for snowflakes............we aren't the ones with a manager none of you seem to want but you are all terrified to move. Snowflakes is right!" Correction:Kildare and all fair thinking people were right, the GAA heads in suits were wrong. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 27/06/2018 16:32:12 2116054 Link
I say Cian O'Neill is secretly raging this game is going ahead now and Mayo weren't handed a walkover. 2018 could have been remembered as the year Kildare famously forfeited a championship game but instead it will be remembered as the year Carlow beat them in the championship for the first time since 1953! Ah only joking Kildare fans, I'm delighted you's stood up to the authorities and won. gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 878 - 27/06/2018 16:34:34 2116055 Link
Thank God for The Sky Deal now, at least we can see the game. Meanwhile the National Broadcaster keeps giving us trash from Russia day and night . Another blessing we wont have to listen to O Rourke/Brolly and Spillane culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 27/06/2018 16:52:05 2116061 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Mayo are better supported than most counties, do u not agree? Hence they bring more to the gaa. Money that is." Mayo are indeed better supported than most. It's also an economically peripheral part of the country, much worse off than, I dunno, Kildare, for example. It's up to other counties to draw the maximum numbers from their support base rather than implying that Mayo are being favoured by HQ. After all, we come fairly low down the list when it comes to central funding from Headquarters. Other than that, it's clear that most GAA people around the country feel that enough is enough as regards the powers that be putting profit above all else. Fair enough, I agree with the principle myself. I do have a funny feeling though that if the shoe were on the other foot, and it were Mayo holding out for a home draw, most people would tell us to shut up and stop whingeing. Looking forward to a hammer and tongs battle on Saturday. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 27/06/2018 16:53:47 2116062 Link
Replying To Gleebo: "Mayo are indeed better supported than most. It's also an economically peripheral part of the country, much worse off than, I dunno, Kildare, for example. It's up to other counties to draw the maximum numbers from their support base rather than implying that Mayo are being favoured by HQ. After all, we come fairly low down the list when it comes to central funding from Headquarters. Other than that, it's clear that most GAA people around the country feel that enough is enough as regards the powers that be putting profit above all else. Fair enough, I agree with the principle myself. I do have a funny feeling though that if the shoe were on the other foot, and it were Mayo holding out for a home draw, most people would tell us to shut up and stop whingeing. Looking forward to a hammer and tongs battle on Saturday." Not me personally. U long enough on here to know my feelings towards Kildare, however on this they were right. If mayo had been pulled out first and same thing happened I would have been equally vocal on the matter. It's not mayo I have the problem with. It's the bloody suits and skirts in hq. They are really beginning to p me off. They make up the rules as they go along I also don't blame sky, imo this had nothing to do with it. It was Croke Park bigwigs full stop. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2018 17:22:44 2116071 Link
Replying To Gleebo: "Mayo are indeed better supported than most. It's also an economically peripheral part of the country, much worse off than, I dunno, Kildare, for example. It's up to other counties to draw the maximum numbers from their support base rather than implying that Mayo are being favoured by HQ. After all, we come fairly low down the list when it comes to central funding from Headquarters. Other than that, it's clear that most GAA people around the country feel that enough is enough as regards the powers that be putting profit above all else. Fair enough, I agree with the principle myself. I do have a funny feeling though that if the shoe were on the other foot, and it were Mayo holding out for a home draw, most people would tell us to shut up and stop whingeing. Looking forward to a hammer and tongs battle on Saturday." Also in this era. Dubs, mayo , Kerry and Tyrone are the favored ones. Look it wasn't that long ago Meath were in that group (but we were never favored) these are the counties the gaa want in semis, the rest for the most part can take a run and jump. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/06/2018 17:34:42 2116072 Link
Replying To essmac: "A manufactured, undignified crisis. Having got his way, the Kildare manager now has no more excuses. If Kildare now don't win, he's going to look a bit foolish. All he's done is upped the pressure on his team for nothing but so-called 'home advantage' which nowadays means nothing to any properly-prepared team. Having made his point, far smarter to have made the short (for Kildare) trip to Croke Park with a good siege mentality and a point to prove. My late Dad cycled 30 miles to Clones to play for Tyrone, and cycled home again afterwards, and thought nothing of it, ffs. Snowflakes now can't go 30 miles up the road in an air-conditioned coach without crying about it." Kildare would look more foolish forfeiting home advantage. They know they are going to be underdogs no matter where they play but the wide open spaces of croke park would suit Mayo much more IMO. They have been rewarded for their courage as all of a sudden Newbridge is fine to host this game after been told yesterday it wasn't. Kildare will be fired up for this one and as Tipp showed they can be got at. With Parsons and Seamus Shea injured then there is every possibility that Kildare can pull of a surprise. In regards to you saying to home advantage means nothing, a report from 2008 to 2012 Gaa seasons showed that teams playing against each other from the same division, the home team won 81% of the time, and 60% of the time when one the teams were one division apart. Not sure what the results of the last few years show but id imagine it would not be too different. If you think that home advantage means nothing based on this then i dont know what to say to ya. KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 27/06/2018 18:15:19 2116087 Link