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Kildare V Mayo

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Replying To sam1884:  "The capacity is just over 8 thousand, I'm sure Kildare don't care at this stage as they have won the right to host the game in Newbridge. There is no chance any of these tickets will go on general sale. Mayo have around 3500 season ticket holders. I strongly expect their allocation will be slightly higher than that figure but not 5000. It will be upto Mayo GAA to decide how they distribute those tickets, bearing in mind season ticket holders are not guaranteed a ticket if the capacity doesn't allow it. Kildare GAA will likely receive over 4000 tickets to distribute through their clubs etc which would be the minimum expectation. As for tickets bought for Croke Park, expect a refund and the ticket becoming null and void. These tickets will be distributed almost in the same way as an All Ireland final. Kildare will have at the very least half of the tickets and there will be no problem selling them after this week, and with Mayo's support expect some atmosphere."
Each county getting 1500 each to distribute through clubs the rest go to season tickets,players,sponsors etc

Galwayjoe86 (Galway) - Posts: 258 - 27/06/2018 14:16:52    2115987

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Kildare CB will be extra vigilant and hopefully there will be additional stewards and officials available on the day

Apparently the Gardai and H&S authorities only signed off on the game being played there if strict guidelines are adhered to. Let's hope all that is in place and that all supporters do their part."
I really hope on saturday that mayo dish out the hammering that kildare truly deserve for their appalling behaviour.

Kildare have put their own small mindedness ahead of public safety and well being - a disgrace.

Plus there are 1000s of proper gaelic football supporters who will not now be able to watch their team because of this nonsense.

The GAA are there to do what is best for everyone which was the intention. Kildare should be ashamed.

hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 27/06/2018 14:24:05    2115989

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Fairness prevailed and am glad that Kildare will have home advantage. I presume Sky will still be covering the game... with all the publicity the debacle has generated they'd hardly look a gift horse in the mouth. Will Cian O'Neill be inviting Taylor Swift, since he dragged her into it, and where will she sit?

Not sure what Mayo will be putting up against Moolick and Brophy... almost forgot there's a football game to be played!

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 27/06/2018 14:30:42    2115992

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I really hope on saturday that mayo dish out the hammering that kildare truly deserve for their appalling behaviour.

Kildare have put their own small mindedness ahead of public safety and well being - a disgrace.

Plus there are 1000s of proper gaelic football supporters who will not now be able to watch their team because of this nonsense.

The GAA are there to do what is best for everyone which was the intention. Kildare should be ashamed."
I like you

You're gas.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/06/2018 14:30:54    2115993

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Replying To sam1884:  "The capacity is just over 8 thousand, I'm sure Kildare don't care at this stage as they have won the right to host the game in Newbridge. There is no chance any of these tickets will go on general sale. Mayo have around 3500 season ticket holders. I strongly expect their allocation will be slightly higher than that figure but not 5000. It will be upto Mayo GAA to decide how they distribute those tickets, bearing in mind season ticket holders are not guaranteed a ticket if the capacity doesn't allow it. Kildare GAA will likely receive over 4000 tickets to distribute through their clubs etc which would be the minimum expectation. As for tickets bought for Croke Park, expect a refund and the ticket becoming null and void. These tickets will be distributed almost in the same way as an All Ireland final. Kildare will have at the very least half of the tickets and there will be no problem selling them after this week, and with Mayo's support expect some atmosphere."
You're wrong I'm afraid. The relevant term in the terms and conditions is that season tickets holders are not guaranteed admission if season ticket holder numbers exceed the capacity of the ground. That is not the case here.

Regardless the GAA have confirmed that both Mayo and Kildare will get 1,500 tickets each to distribute through clubs. A very small amount have gone on general sale and the remainder will go to season ticket holders, players, etc. Regardless of what way you look at it, Mayo will 100% have a much larger support inside the ground.

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 27/06/2018 14:31:06    2115994

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I really hope on saturday that mayo dish out the hammering that kildare truly deserve for their appalling behaviour.

Kildare have put their own small mindedness ahead of public safety and well being - a disgrace.

Plus there are 1000s of proper gaelic football supporters who will not now be able to watch their team because of this nonsense.

The GAA are there to do what is best for everyone which was the intention. Kildare should be ashamed."
Gwahahaha. Sore much?

1) The Gardaí had and have no problems with the health and safety of supporters attending Newbridge.

2) The rules are clear. Well done to Kildare for ensuring that the GAA follows the rules democratically decided upon by Congress instead of allowing Croke Park to make it up as they go along.

3) If you are consistent, I'm sure you also think that the Munster hurling final should be played in Croke Park in order to facilitate the 1000s of supporters who#d like to see it.

Cilldara_2000 (Kildare) - Posts: 57 - 27/06/2018 14:31:26    2115995

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I really hope on saturday that mayo dish out the hammering that kildare truly deserve for their appalling behaviour.

Kildare have put their own small mindedness ahead of public safety and well being - a disgrace.

Plus there are 1000s of proper gaelic football supporters who will not now be able to watch their team because of this nonsense.

The GAA are there to do what is best for everyone which was the intention. Kildare should be ashamed."
Yeah how dare we not bend over when asked by the bigger boys...

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 27/06/2018 14:32:02    2115996

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Kildare have won the battle alright but they won't win the war.
Heard a former GAA president on the radio yesterday evening saying they should fulfill the fixture in Croke Park or there might be consequences down the road for Kildare. Ooh , now you've gone and done it."
How dare a former President of the GAA threaten any county with "consequences" this man should be suspended at once under the great 'catch all' bringing the Association into disrepute. Maybe as I have long suspected as another poster said 'referees will be instructed to screw Kildare' sure it is happening already remember the ghost goal in Thurles. There was never a chance that Waterford would have got a goal like that.

Back to the main thrust of this thread. Brilliant that Kildare have stood up to the bully boys in Croke Park. Every county, especially the ones who are less equal than the elite few, owe you a huge favour. As more of a hurling person in Meath we recall the sheer ineptitude of Croke Park in dealing with our original Christy Ring final a few years ago but fair play to our County Chairman at the time he stood up to the CP bully boys and fair play ensued eventually. Great to see that Kildare won the Christy Ring over last weekend and good luck v Antrim on Saturday, but I won't take sides as Antrim were honest at the time that Croke Park messed up.

Again thanks to Kildare for standing up for your rights. Was Rosa Parks a Lilly White?

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 27/06/2018 14:32:46    2115997

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Replying To Galwayjoe86:  "Each county getting 1500 each to distribute through clubs the rest go to season tickets,players,sponsors etc"
I just seen that Galwayjoe86, as expected the Croke Park tickets are null and void. I'm glad to see Kildare are being treated fairly enough and Mayo won't be allowed to take up all the tickets. With players tickets, the 1500 and Kildare's season tickets I would still expect them to have a fair number of supporters in the ground. Kildare must be delighted they have won this battle. May the best team win on Saturday.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 27/06/2018 14:34:12    2115998

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I really hope on saturday that mayo dish out the hammering that kildare truly deserve for their appalling behaviour.

Kildare have put their own small mindedness ahead of public safety and well being - a disgrace.

Plus there are 1000s of proper gaelic football supporters who will not now be able to watch their team because of this nonsense.

The GAA are there to do what is best for everyone which was the intention. Kildare should be ashamed."
on the point ' there are 1000s of proper gaelic football supporters who will not now be able to watch their team because of this nonsense'.....

It's good that the GAA have had the foresight to enagge in an arrangement with a suitable broadcaster to ensure that this game will be televised on a platform freely and easily accessible by all.

Oh, wait.....

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 194 - 27/06/2018 14:39:43    2115999

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Replying To hurlingexpert:  "I really hope on saturday that mayo dish out the hammering that kildare truly deserve for their appalling behaviour.

Kildare have put their own small mindedness ahead of public safety and well being - a disgrace.

Plus there are 1000s of proper gaelic football supporters who will not now be able to watch their team because of this nonsense.

The GAA are there to do what is best for everyone which was the intention. Kildare should be ashamed."
What ever about the proper gaa fans you obviously cant be one with that pathetic attitude. The Gaa are doing the best for themselves, The rules are first out home advantage. The gaa disgracefully tried to pull a fast one on Kildare gaa to suit themselves and fill their pockets. It is NOT Kildares fault Mayo have a massive follow and the should care less about how many Mayo fans cant go. Its their home game. The Gaa should be ashamed of themselves as you should be with tese disgarceful comments towards Kildare gaa

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 27/06/2018 14:39:45    2116000

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How many season tickets do Kildare have does anyone know?

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 27/06/2018 14:40:23    2116001

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Replying To sam1884:  "I just seen that Galwayjoe86, as expected the Croke Park tickets are null and void. I'm glad to see Kildare are being treated fairly enough and Mayo won't be allowed to take up all the tickets. With players tickets, the 1500 and Kildare's season tickets I would still expect them to have a fair number of supporters in the ground. Kildare must be delighted they have won this battle. May the best team win on Saturday."
That's it - the mess has been sorted so now its time to focus on the game. Kildare knew beforehand what'd happen regarding the attendance split so its no surprise to the CB, team or supporters. I hope we give Mayo a good game but we'll have to improve dramatically to get a result.

Moosey (Kildare) - Posts: 2 - 27/06/2018 14:41:24    2116003

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Replying To MillerX:  "How dare a former President of the GAA threaten any county with "consequences" this man should be suspended at once under the great 'catch all' bringing the Association into disrepute. Maybe as I have long suspected as another poster said 'referees will be instructed to screw Kildare' sure it is happening already remember the ghost goal in Thurles. There was never a chance that Waterford would have got a goal like that.

Back to the main thrust of this thread. Brilliant that Kildare have stood up to the bully boys in Croke Park. Every county, especially the ones who are less equal than the elite few, owe you a huge favour. As more of a hurling person in Meath we recall the sheer ineptitude of Croke Park in dealing with our original Christy Ring final a few years ago but fair play to our County Chairman at the time he stood up to the CP bully boys and fair play ensued eventually. Great to see that Kildare won the Christy Ring over last weekend and good luck v Antrim on Saturday, but I won't take sides as Antrim were honest at the time that Croke Park messed up.

Again thanks to Kildare for standing up for your rights. Was Rosa Parks a Lilly White?"
Indeed, but Rosa stayed sitting.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 27/06/2018 14:41:27    2116004

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Well done Kildare, hugely proud of you. (Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd write ) lol.
Anyway this is not only a victory for Kildare, it is a victory for all ordinary members of the gaa .
Well done Kildare for showing true bottle. Got to say that took some courage to stand up for what was right. I'm particularly grateful to O'Neill. And the fact that they refused the Croke Park money to shut them up.
Well done again, and I hope you go on now and win."
Cheers Royaldunne, have to say you have really gone up in my estimation with your take on all this.

Kiwiq (Kildare) - Posts: 38 - 27/06/2018 14:42:37    2116006

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Thank God people like John Maughan aren't running the GAA oh no,wait!!

glenmore (Tyrone) - Posts: 14 - 27/06/2018 14:46:59    2116007

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Replying To Cuckoosinging:  "What ever about the proper gaa fans you obviously cant be one with that pathetic attitude. The Gaa are doing the best for themselves, The rules are first out home advantage. The gaa disgracefully tried to pull a fast one on Kildare gaa to suit themselves and fill their pockets. It is NOT Kildares fault Mayo have a massive follow and the should care less about how many Mayo fans cant go. Its their home game. The Gaa should be ashamed of themselves as you should be with tese disgarceful comments towards Kildare gaa"
Rules are not first out of the hat have home advantage.

Its Home Advantage with the approval of the CCCC, and it is is Div 3 or 4 team they get automatic home advantage with CCCC approval.

Also people are saying Newbridge should be done up.

Ok how? Who pays? Don't say Croke Park, becuase according to everyone they shouldn't be focused on manking money so should ahve no money to give away

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 27/06/2018 14:47:32    2116009

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Replying To Kiwiq:  "Cheers Royaldunne, have to say you have really gone up in my estimation with your take on all this."
Wait until next year when we're back in division 2 and he'll go right back down.

But sure ya wouldn't have it any other way RD :)

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 27/06/2018 14:48:06    2116010

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Replying To witnof:  "Rules are not first out of the hat have home advantage.

Its Home Advantage with the approval of the CCCC, and it is is Div 3 or 4 team they get automatic home advantage with CCCC approval.

Also people are saying Newbridge should be done up.

Ok how? Who pays? Don't say Croke Park, becuase according to everyone they shouldn't be focused on manking money so should ahve no money to give away"
That's not quite correct.

Have a look at this article;
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/former-gaa-disputes-official-kildare-have-strong-case-against-croke-park-851193.html

particularly the section dealing with the relevant rule;

"Kildare can argue that CCCC is unreasonably in breach of r6.28(A) (v) (2): 'Home Venues SHALL be used in Rounds 1, 2 and 3 of the All-Ireland Qualifier Series, with first Team drawn having Home Advantage' and only exception is 'Venues for Rd 4 shall be determined by CCCC'.

The rules explicitly give CCCC control of venues for round 4 draw. This explicit permission is NOT included in the rule for draws relating to round 1-3. The rules state that the only reason for change of home advantage is if the second team drawn are from a lower division.

I would expect this rule to be ammended by GAA post haste but as it stands, Kildare are 100% correct and justified in their stance.

TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 194 - 27/06/2018 15:03:54    2116014

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Replying To witnof:  "Rules are not first out of the hat have home advantage.

Its Home Advantage with the approval of the CCCC, and it is is Div 3 or 4 team they get automatic home advantage with CCCC approval.

Also people are saying Newbridge should be done up.

Ok how? Who pays? Don't say Croke Park, becuase according to everyone they shouldn't be focused on manking money so should ahve no money to give away"
You are 100% wrong. CCCC have no jurisdiction on moving grounds until Round 4 and onwards. The GAA knew that too so they folded in the end. And there are plans and funds in place for redevelopment. A bit much when your own county ground can't host your team at all. Now back to sucking those bitter lemons in your glass house.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 27/06/2018 15:13:29    2116015

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