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Kildare V Mayo

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I'm loving this, at last someone has the balls to say "No". The GAA will not move the goalposts to suit themselves or dismiss their own criteria for the football qualifiers just when it suits them. But what happens next? Croke Park can't back down, that would be perceived as a sign of weakness, they would fear the peasants would overthrow the gentry and all hell would break loose. Kildare can't back down, they have taken a strong stance and reneging on it now would make them look utterly spineless, which they are not. And then poor Mayo, whom I feel genuinely sorry for, don't know what to do but have shown good grace to stay silent and not pass comment or show support to either side, to do so would be unnecessary I feel, it's not their problem or concern so why pass comment. So what will happen? Well I can see a repeat of the infamous Dublin v Cork NFL game back in 1987, Mayo will take to the field, Kildare will not and the ball will be thrown in and some Mayo dude will kick the ball into an empty net like Barney Rock did back in 1987, no one is for turning here, it seems the only outcome........

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 26/06/2018 20:40:55    2115608

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Replying To Richieq:  "I'm loving this, at last someone has the balls to say "No". The GAA will not move the goalposts to suit themselves or dismiss their own criteria for the football qualifiers just when it suits them. But what happens next? Croke Park can't back down, that would be perceived as a sign of weakness, they would fear the peasants would overthrow the gentry and all hell would break loose. Kildare can't back down, they have taken a strong stance and reneging on it now would make them look utterly spineless, which they are not. And then poor Mayo, whom I feel genuinely sorry for, don't know what to do but have shown good grace to stay silent and not pass comment or show support to either side, to do so would be unnecessary I feel, it's not their problem or concern so why pass comment. So what will happen? Well I can see a repeat of the infamous Dublin v Cork NFL game back in 1987, Mayo will take to the field, Kildare will not and the ball will be thrown in and some Mayo dude will kick the ball into an empty net like Barney Rock did back in 1987, no one is for turning here, it seems the only outcome........"
Mayo would still somehow manage to lose

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/06/2018 20:47:27    2115611

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "Wrong. Because this bites Kildare now. But it bit laois before. And it might bite mayo the next time. It's time for solidarity against the GAA s arrogance."
It already did bite Mayo being sent down to limericks ground which suited a Kerry team that hadn't the legs for Croke park., and the penny finally dropped last season when they got the chance to set the record straight after 3 years.

Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 26/06/2018 20:52:06    2115613

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "At this stage if there's a compromise the whole country will be let down with the support they're giving not only the county. Kildare have given themselves a strong voice, can't be shut up now with a compromise. Cant see it happening."
i hope you are right.

However there is a subtle difference at play here. Yes there is widespread support from other counties but they are mainly coming from the angle of lets stick it to the GAA and whilst they have sympathy for Kildares plight really they just want to see someone take a stand but have no personal stake in what happens..

Kildare have to think about whats best for them and when push comes to shove, will they really be happy enough to forfeit the game having made their stand and shown that they did not take the decision lying down. They may decide that an alternative venue is now their best option.

Also i would not be surprised if the GAA are letting Kildare know in no uncertain terms that being thrown out of the competition is the least of their worries, with other financial implications being pointed out to them.

Personally I jut cannot see the GAA letting the game go ahead in Newbridge but equally cannot see Kildare not playing the game, so a neutral venue other than Croke Park is the likely option.

That's just my feeling nothing more.

ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 179 - 26/06/2018 21:13:02    2115619

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Replying To Vishred:  "It already did bite Mayo being sent down to limericks ground which suited a Kerry team that hadn't the legs for Croke park., and the penny finally dropped last season when they got the chance to set the record straight after 3 years."
Had the legs for Croke Park? They won the All Ireland

joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 217 - 26/06/2018 21:15:40    2115621

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Mayo would still somehow manage to lose"
Cheeky!

But also funny. Poor old Mayo, they really get no breaks. Other than that goal against Tipp.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 26/06/2018 21:19:11    2115622

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Replying To Vishred:  "It already did bite Mayo being sent down to limericks ground which suited a Kerry team that hadn't the legs for Croke park., and the penny finally dropped last season when they got the chance to set the record straight after 3 years."
Made a show of them

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/06/2018 21:19:38    2115623

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Wouldn't that still be the same outcome though?

No home game. Can't see the current rebel forces accepting such."
And they say Leinster football is dead, sure is'nt this the best entertainment we have had all year!!

Who would have thought at the start of the year that Kildare of all counties would be organising and leading the rebellion!

ROYALOPTIMIST (Meath) - Posts: 179 - 26/06/2018 21:21:58    2115625

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Mayo would still somehow manage to lose"
hopefully nobody will try to pin the player to the floor to prevent it from happening.

Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 26/06/2018 21:33:58    2115628

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Replying To Richieq:  "I'm loving this, at last someone has the balls to say "No". The GAA will not move the goalposts to suit themselves or dismiss their own criteria for the football qualifiers just when it suits them. But what happens next? Croke Park can't back down, that would be perceived as a sign of weakness, they would fear the peasants would overthrow the gentry and all hell would break loose. Kildare can't back down, they have taken a strong stance and reneging on it now would make them look utterly spineless, which they are not. And then poor Mayo, whom I feel genuinely sorry for, don't know what to do but have shown good grace to stay silent and not pass comment or show support to either side, to do so would be unnecessary I feel, it's not their problem or concern so why pass comment. So what will happen? Well I can see a repeat of the infamous Dublin v Cork NFL game back in 1987, Mayo will take to the field, Kildare will not and the ball will be thrown in and some Mayo dude will kick the ball into an empty net like Barney Rock did back in 1987, no one is for turning here, it seems the only outcome........"
What if Mayo kick it wide?

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 26/06/2018 21:35:23    2115629

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Replying To Vishred:  "hopefully nobody will try to pin the player to the floor to prevent it from happening."
Was that before or after Lee Keegan threw an object at Dean Rock when he was running up to the ball while trying to take a free to win the AI?

What's good for the goose fella.

You boys proved you're willing to do anything to win. Don't feel so shocked to watch it in return.

Still kicked it though wha!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/06/2018 21:50:58    2115632

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One would have to pity the poor Sky technicians having to setup the cameras in Newbridge. They had very little difficulty setting up in Navan for the Meath v Tyrone game. Even though they had to negotiate the disused floodlight pylons that were lying on the ground very close to where they entered the pitch. So setting up in Newbridge. But They had to as I believe they had just outbid RTE to show the game live and they ended up with egg all over their faces as the omitted to show the first 20 minutes or so of the Kilkenny v Wexford game.

This Sky involvement in our organization needs to be addressed sooner than later. If any club within the GAA bought jerseys made in London, Glasgow or New York they would at the very least be prohibited from wearing them and may well be suspended, but HQ can ignore the Irish aspect of things and sell out to the highest bidder. Sky will be the eventual downfall of the GAA unless some county brings a motion to congress to curtail but preferably outlaw their involvement in our games.

Kildare I am pleading with you, stick to your decision.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 26/06/2018 22:05:07    2115638

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Paddy power now has odds of Kildare mayo in newbridge at 1/5 so hopefully there is something in that and the game is changed back to where it was supposed to be played

Galwayjoe86 (Galway) - Posts: 258 - 26/06/2018 22:08:00    2115639

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Was that before or after Lee Keegan threw an object at Dean Rock when he was running up to the ball while trying to take a free to win the AI?

What's good for the goose fella.

You boys proved you're willing to do anything to win. Don't feel so shocked to watch it in return.

Still kicked it though wha!"
you started it JimBob so I couldn't let it go ;))
I'm a bit disappointed in you considering we normally expect that from posters whos counties are going
no-where fast and are still stuck in the 1990s.. they need to feel important..
but not from the champs.

Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 26/06/2018 22:12:57    2115641

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Replying To Galwayjoe86:  "Paddy power now has odds of Kildare mayo in newbridge at 1/5 so hopefully there is something in that and the game is changed back to where it was supposed to be played"
8/1 for Mayo to tog out in Croker while Kildare tog out in Newbridge.

County Board should lump on and use the winning to do up Conleths.

Everyone's a winner.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 26/06/2018 22:14:34    2115643

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Replying To Galwayjoe86:  "Paddy power now has odds of Kildare mayo in newbridge at 1/5 so hopefully there is something in that and the game is changed back to where it was supposed to be played"
Roses are red,
Lilly's are white,
Newbridge or nowhere,
Stand up and fight

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 26/06/2018 22:19:06    2115644

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Replying To Galwayjoe86:  "Paddy power now has odds of Kildare mayo in newbridge at 1/5 so hopefully there is something in that and the game is changed back to where it was supposed to be played"
For once I hope Paddy Power is not cycling next week!!!

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 26/06/2018 22:24:09    2115647

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Replying To ROYALOPTIMIST:  "i hope you are right.

However there is a subtle difference at play here. Yes there is widespread support from other counties but they are mainly coming from the angle of lets stick it to the GAA and whilst they have sympathy for Kildares plight really they just want to see someone take a stand but have no personal stake in what happens..

Kildare have to think about whats best for them and when push comes to shove, will they really be happy enough to forfeit the game having made their stand and shown that they did not take the decision lying down. They may decide that an alternative venue is now their best option.

Also i would not be surprised if the GAA are letting Kildare know in no uncertain terms that being thrown out of the competition is the least of their worries, with other financial implications being pointed out to them.

Personally I jut cannot see the GAA letting the game go ahead in Newbridge but equally cannot see Kildare not playing the game, so a neutral venue other than Croke Park is the likely option.

That's just my feeling nothing more."
Why would we opt for a neutral venue other than Croke Park? Sure if we were going to do that we might as well just play it in Croke Park to be damned. We have the whole country behind us, the GAA suits are the ones with nobody on their side. Also it's hilarious that they sight the tired oul rubbish about people not being able to get in to see the game in big numbers in Newbridge............Then stick the game on SKY behind a pay wall. I wonder which toe they were aiming for when they shot themselves in the foot?! We play in Newbridge!

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 26/06/2018 22:29:56    2115650

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Just for arguments sake, what happens if mayo turn up and tog our in new bridge and all you've got in croker is the ref etc?

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 26/06/2018 22:32:27    2115651

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "Roses are red,
Lilly's are white,
Newbridge or nowhere,
Stand up and fight"
hopefully if ye win that fight ye might show the same passion making your stadium bigger

Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 26/06/2018 22:36:52    2115654

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