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Tipperary V Mayo

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Round 2 of the football qualifiers throws up a repeat of the 2016 All Ireland semi final. Mayo had a handy time in Limerick two weeks ago but Tipperary are a far better side with a dangerous inside forward line of Michael Quinlivan, Conor Sweeney and Liam McGrath. So I'm expecting a close game and looking forward to visiting Semple Stadium for the first time.

LeftHalfBack10 (Mayo) - Posts: 30 - 21/06/2018 16:50:49    2113605

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Replying To LeftHalfBack10:  "Round 2 of the football qualifiers throws up a repeat of the 2016 All Ireland semi final. Mayo had a handy time in Limerick two weeks ago but Tipperary are a far better side with a dangerous inside forward line of Michael Quinlivan, Conor Sweeney and Liam McGrath. So I'm expecting a close game and looking forward to visiting Semple Stadium for the first time."
I'd expect Mayo to have far too much for this Tipperary side. As you said, they have a very dangerous full forward line but i think they'll struggle to get the ball into them enough to do any real damage. They were atrocious against Cork and i'm expecting a massive improvement but even then i'd expect Mayo to come out the other side comfortably enough.

JohnnySquares (Cork) - Posts: 5 - 21/06/2018 17:11:38    2113612

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Replying To JohnnySquares:  "I'd expect Mayo to have far too much for this Tipperary side. As you said, they have a very dangerous full forward line but i think they'll struggle to get the ball into them enough to do any real damage. They were atrocious against Cork and i'm expecting a massive improvement but even then i'd expect Mayo to come out the other side comfortably enough."
Mayo by 6+

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 21/06/2018 17:48:38    2113620

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Mayo play well and we win, we don't and Tipp show what they can do then it will spell trouble. I'll say Mayo by 5.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 21/06/2018 18:45:55    2113625

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Listen look at what Cork did to Tipp..

Cork are no world beaters

If Mayo have any true ambitions of beating Dublin/Kerry there shouldn't be any doubt about this result.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 21/06/2018 19:48:25    2113635

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Listen look at what Cork did to Tipp..

Cork are no world beaters

If Mayo have any true ambitions of beating Dublin/Kerry there shouldn't be any doubt about this result."
Not a forgone conclusion as many seem to think.
Tipp had only 6 days recovery for cork which was a big disadvantage, and their form prior to that was solid .
Mayo need to perform if they are to get to win down there .

Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 21/06/2018 22:37:35    2113663

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Listen look at what Cork did to Tipp..

Cork are no world beaters

If Mayo have any true ambitions of beating Dublin/Kerry there shouldn't be any doubt about this result."
Yes but the last two years show that you don't have to swat aside every team enroute to the final to be able to compete against Dublin or Kerry.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 21/06/2018 22:42:10    2113664

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If Sweeney is back to full fitness I think we will give Mayo a tough test.

I think it is will be closer than what other posters here are saying. These boys have great heart to back up the skill. They will be pissed off with how they did against Cork.

Mayo will win probably win but I can see us being with 2 points of them.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 22/06/2018 05:38:51    2113681

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Mayo will have too much for Tipp in this one.
Cannot see Tipp getting within 6/7 points.
Tipp forwards are good but probably Mayo's stronger department too so it'll be difficult for them.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 22/06/2018 07:57:19    2113685

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I'd expect Tipp to win this on home soil and with a bit to spare!

Joking aside though, for what looked like it couldve been an exceptional year it'll be a bit of a disaster to go out this early. The target would defintely have been a Super 8 place, which looks unlikely now. Tipp didnt become a bad team overnight though. They shouldve beaten Roscommon and Cavan in the league. Mayo are a different animal obviously but if Mayo bring the performances they did in the qualifiers last year then we have a chance. On paper I reckon this years team is the best we've had. We'd love to have Acheson and O'Riordan playing too but I believe if this team click then we can compete with most counties. Tipp are more than just a full forward line . Bill Maher, Kiely, O'Brien, Fox are 4 players who would walk into most teams.

While I think Mayo are still the closest team to Dublin, I'm very slightly optimistic that we might see a shock! Tipp will certianly go out and play football and attack Mayo so should be a good spectacle.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 22/06/2018 08:45:58    2113689

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Listen look at what Cork did to Tipp..

Cork are no world beaters

If Mayo have any true ambitions of beating Dublin/Kerry there shouldn't be any doubt about this result."
Dublin/Kerry/GALWAY you mean

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 22/06/2018 09:14:33    2113697

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Listen look at what Cork did to Tipp..

Cork are no world beaters

If Mayo have any true ambitions of beating Dublin/Kerry there shouldn't be any doubt about this result."
Mayo could easily have been beaten by both cork and derry last year before going on and showing why they are the 2nd best team in the country for a while now. We had probably our 2nd worst performance under Kearns against cork. I wouldn't judge tipp on that one game. If mayo play as good as they can they will win...if we perform it will be a great game

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 353 - 22/06/2018 09:38:30    2113699

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'd expect Tipp to win this on home soil and with a bit to spare!

Joking aside though, for what looked like it couldve been an exceptional year it'll be a bit of a disaster to go out this early. The target would defintely have been a Super 8 place, which looks unlikely now. Tipp didnt become a bad team overnight though. They shouldve beaten Roscommon and Cavan in the league. Mayo are a different animal obviously but if Mayo bring the performances they did in the qualifiers last year then we have a chance. On paper I reckon this years team is the best we've had. We'd love to have Acheson and O'Riordan playing too but I believe if this team click then we can compete with most counties. Tipp are more than just a full forward line . Bill Maher, Kiely, O'Brien, Fox are 4 players who would walk into most teams.

While I think Mayo are still the closest team to Dublin, I'm very slightly optimistic that we might see a shock! Tipp will certianly go out and play football and attack Mayo so should be a good spectacle."
If Mayo win this comfortably Tiobraid, as some neutrals are suggesting, it'll be a major surprise to me. Before a ball was kicked I for one had been regarding Tipp as very firmly in the frame for a Super 8 place, and one bad day out against Cork on a 6-day turnaround hasn't changed my opinion in that regard. I'm no more comfortable with going to Thurles than I would have been going to Omagh or Clones to face the locals there. Not sure where the evidence is that this is going to be anything but a 50/50 game, and imo the toughest qualifier Mayo will have faced into these last 3 years. It has me nervous anyway, and I'd imagine that the Mayo squad will be pretty alert to the challenge.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 22/06/2018 09:47:07    2113701

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Replying To Pericles:  "If Mayo win this comfortably Tiobraid, as some neutrals are suggesting, it'll be a major surprise to me. Before a ball was kicked I for one had been regarding Tipp as very firmly in the frame for a Super 8 place, and one bad day out against Cork on a 6-day turnaround hasn't changed my opinion in that regard. I'm no more comfortable with going to Thurles than I would have been going to Omagh or Clones to face the locals there. Not sure where the evidence is that this is going to be anything but a 50/50 game, and imo the toughest qualifier Mayo will have faced into these last 3 years. It has me nervous anyway, and I'd imagine that the Mayo squad will be pretty alert to the challenge."
It's certainly a tricky assignment for Mayo but I wouldnbt go as far as saying its a 50/50 game. Mayo have been incredicbly consistent the last number of years and are a serious outfit. The fac tthat its in Thurles might spook them a bit though.
From a Tipp point of view we need big games from a few key players and i'd expect Tipp to hit plenty of long ball in on top of Quinlivan and target the Mayo full back position. I'd expect a big game from O'Brien who thrives on these type of games too.
Looking forward to it now. Hope the supporters turn up!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 22/06/2018 10:51:15    2113710

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Pericles (Mayo) - It was also a tricky assignment in Castlebar 3 years ago in backdoor. Tip are a very good side who play good football. Mayo will be difficult to beat but are most vulnerable early on in the championship. I would like to see them getting another crack at the Dubs as I would expect them to win this time around as they are due a bit of luck.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 22/06/2018 11:43:22    2113725

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Replying To tiobraid:  "It's certainly a tricky assignment for Mayo but I wouldnbt go as far as saying its a 50/50 game. Mayo have been incredicbly consistent the last number of years and are a serious outfit. The fac tthat its in Thurles might spook them a bit though.
From a Tipp point of view we need big games from a few key players and i'd expect Tipp to hit plenty of long ball in on top of Quinlivan and target the Mayo full back position. I'd expect a big game from O'Brien who thrives on these type of games too.
Looking forward to it now. Hope the supporters turn up!"
McHale Park currently seems to spook this team more than being away Tiobraid, but I know what you mean. With the hurlers out and good weather forecast surely the Tipp crowd will turn up in their thousands? It should bring in a few curious neutrals too. With Mayo support likely to be 7 - 10K, it'd be surprising if the game doesn't bring 15k+ to Semple in spite of Sky coverage. Should make for a great atmosphere.

DOC, I know you're anxious to kick Mayo down the stairs (yourself and Tomas O'Se), but I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to kick Galway up,,, When you've performed in championship against the two other suspects named in a knockout game, only then will you know the true value of your stock. Maybe that'll happen this year after the dust settles on the Super 8s?

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 22/06/2018 12:01:16    2113733

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Replying To Pericles:  "McHale Park currently seems to spook this team more than being away Tiobraid, but I know what you mean. With the hurlers out and good weather forecast surely the Tipp crowd will turn up in their thousands? It should bring in a few curious neutrals too. With Mayo support likely to be 7 - 10K, it'd be surprising if the game doesn't bring 15k+ to Semple in spite of Sky coverage. Should make for a great atmosphere.

DOC, I know you're anxious to kick Mayo down the stairs (yourself and Tomas O'Se), but I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to kick Galway up,,, When you've performed in championship against the two other suspects named in a knockout game, only then will you know the true value of your stock. Maybe that'll happen this year after the dust settles on the Super 8s?"
I can't speak for Mayo supporters but you dont get them kind of numbers at Tipp football games. I'd imagine if you have 5-6k it'll be as good as it gets.
It's a shame but Tipp supporters won't turn up in their thousands (well not loads of thousands anyway!!) that's for sure!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 22/06/2018 12:16:25    2113736

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While Tipp always have one big performance in them I don't think it will come against Mayo this weekend. Last year against all odds we went up to Cavan and a super second half won us the day.
Mayo will keep us at arms length Tipps Achilles heel is our defending Armagh and Cork found us out easy enough.
Kearns has done wonderful with such a small pool of players and this Tipp team will probably be the same for next 2 to 3 years as our minor and U20/21 teams have been beaten soundly last two years in Munster Championship.
I'd give us every chance and I admire this group of footballers for their heart and never say die attitude but I think we're past our best and Mayo should win by 9 or 10 points pulling up.
I hope I'm wrong but I just can't see us getting enough possession to over turn a seasoned and serious Mayo outfit who are the second best team in the country for the last number of years.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 22/06/2018 12:35:36    2113740

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Yes but the last two years show that you don't have to swat aside every team enroute to the final to be able to compete against Dublin or Kerry."
Different this year I feel

Mayo have the Limerick performance behind them

They've already performed well and are building momentum rather than stuttering along.

Should be a handy enough win as I don't think Tipp are at the level that they've managed over the last few seasons

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/06/2018 12:58:42    2113747

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Just to add though

The work done in Tipp deserves huge credit and they are a true example of what can be achieved with the right people and structures in place

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/06/2018 14:29:39    2113755

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