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There's a story in today's Irish Independent that an Ulster U14 hurling team received vulgar abuse and partitionist catcalls at a tournament in Galway last week. The team's management and parents said the abuse included "British b***ds" and "You're not even Irish". Many Ulster sides will tell you that this sort of abuse is rife when they travel South and it's shameful. I don't think the GAA and websites like HS can ignore this now as it's getting worse. Ulsterman (Antrim)** - Posts: 9706 - 14/06/2018 17:28:36 2111580 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "There's a story in today's Irish Independent that an Ulster U14 hurling team received vulgar abuse and partitionist catcalls at a tournament in Galway last week. The team's management and parents said the abuse included "British b***ds" and "You're not even Irish". Many Ulster sides will tell you that this sort of abuse is rife when they travel South and it's shameful. I don't think the GAA and websites like HS can ignore this now as it's getting worse." Disgusting stuff. Team involved should be fined and banned if investigations prove them guilty. Brolly (Monaghan)** - Posts: 4472 - 14/06/2018 18:04:31 2111590 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "There's a story in today's Irish Independent that an Ulster U14 hurling team received vulgar abuse and partitionist catcalls at a tournament in Galway last week. The team's management and parents said the abuse included "British b***ds" and "You're not even Irish". Many Ulster sides will tell you that this sort of abuse is rife when they travel South and it's shameful. I don't think the GAA and websites like HS can ignore this now as it's getting worse." Why did you not add a link to the article in the Independent? Here it is: https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/they-called-us-british-bs-investigation-launched-after-abuse-claims-at-u14-gaa-tournament-37010254.html You failed to mention that the alleged abuse was from the opposition team's under 14 year old children, not adults. . Not nice. if true. But boys will be boys. Maybe it doesn't suit your agenda. You also failed to mention that the chairman of the club who lodged the complaint said: "Personally I have experienced this on many occasions and I am sure northern teams have sledged just as bad." You also, failed to mention this: When contacted by Independent.ie, the coach of the opposition team denied that any abuse had taken place. "It didn't happen. I was there and it didn't happen," he said. "The game was played in good spirits. There were no chants whatsoever. A lot of what was said is untrue. "If all this has happened, why was nothing mentioned at the time to our mentors or to the officials? Not one of them approached anyone to say that any of this happened. As for your "Many Ulster sides will tell you that this sort of abuse is rife when they travel South" Which clubs? Where? When? Cockney_Cat (UK)** - Posts: 2477 - 14/06/2018 18:19:06 2111593 Link
Never once in my career did I bear witness to this type of carry on I'm glad to say, in fact, when I was a young lad I used to look up to Ulster lads who tried to play the game and compete despite them having a pretty tough life compared to us. Get a lip reader in, someone has it on their mobile phone, and ban them for life. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 14/06/2018 18:22:21 2111594 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "There's a story in today's Irish Independent that an Ulster U14 hurling team received vulgar abuse and partitionist catcalls at a tournament in Galway last week. The team's management and parents said the abuse included "British b***ds" and "You're not even Irish". Many Ulster sides will tell you that this sort of abuse is rife when they travel South and it's shameful. I don't think the GAA and websites like HS can ignore this now as it's getting worse." Terrible if true. Should be a zero tolerance about such things. I hope it isn't as rife as you suggest Ulsterman. MesAmis (Dublin)** - Posts: 13717 - 14/06/2018 18:31:51 2111595 Link
I have no agenda here at all. I think abuse of any sort on and off the pitch is unacceptable. Someone is not telling the truth here. The Ulster folk are adamant it occurred while the opposition say it didn't so who is fibbing? As for the 'British, Unionist and Queen' stuff it's a matter of fact that Ulster players and fans get this all the time. The 2003 All Ireland final between Armagh and Tyrone was called The British Final in some Southern media and GAA quarters. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 14/06/2018 19:00:51 2111599 Link
An absolute disgrace that this happened , like most true gaels I had huge respect for those that kept Gaelic games alive through very troubled times in the 6 counties . Many people paid with their lives for their Gaa efforts . This is not the first time people living in the southern part of our island have acted the smart men . The Laois footballers were mentioned by a couple of northern county's as having this mentality. Think it's well known that last weekends events happened and the Gaa should deal with the club in question speedily and severely . OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 677 - 14/06/2018 19:20:17 2111604 Link
Replying To OpenStand: "An absolute disgrace that this happened , like most true gaels I had huge respect for those that kept Gaelic games alive through very troubled times in the 6 counties . Many people paid with their lives for their Gaa efforts . This is not the first time people living in the southern part of our island have acted the smart men . The Laois footballers were mentioned by a couple of northern county's as having this mentality. Think it's well known that last weekends events happened and the Gaa should deal with the club in question speedily and severely ." I think its below the belt and 'smart' of you to refer to one incident a number of years ago involving a Laois team (by a player who was not actually from Laois). I know for a fact that, as in any other county, the vast majority of Laois GAA people condemn sectarian behaviour pf this kind. Leixonian (Laois) - Posts: 20 - 14/06/2018 20:03:10 2111609 Link
Yeah a few thoughts spring straight into my mind. One the 'abuse' if it happened is not sectarian. Both teams were more than likely predominantly catholic and Irish and one of the 2 teams could reasonably be called both Irish and British if we go by facts. Who says there aren't kids on the team who consider themselves British.. 3 its always striking how thin skinned our Northern Brethern are. Why are Northern Irish teams so thin skinned.Is it pure insecurity ? I thought we were beyond this , apparantly not. Being continuously a victim is in no way empowering. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 14/06/2018 20:58:07 2111627 Link
This doesn't qualify as sectarian by the way! It's just an ignorance of people in the South about what goes on in the North and I've heard it at games before. kevdog (Westmeath) - Posts: 115 - 14/06/2018 21:12:50 2111632 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "Yeah a few thoughts spring straight into my mind. One the 'abuse' if it happened is not sectarian. Both teams were more than likely predominantly catholic and Irish and one of the 2 teams could reasonably be called both Irish and British if we go by facts. Who says there aren't kids on the team who consider themselves British.. 3 its always striking how thin skinned our Northern Brethern are. Why are Northern Irish teams so thin skinned.Is it pure insecurity ? I thought we were beyond this , apparantly not. Being continuously a victim is in no way empowering." "Why are Northern Irish teams so thin skinned.Is it pure insecurity ? I thought we were beyond this , apparantly not. Being continuously a victim is in no way empowering." Oh the irony! benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 14/06/2018 21:15:04 2111635 Link
The manager of this particular team I know tweeted this recently. But what I found really pleasing was the managers son and the captain, just 14 year olds went into the opposing team changing rooms and thanked them for the game and did it all in Irish!!! Now that's one way to react - I wonder how many of the lads who shouted the abuse could understand them? IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 14/06/2018 21:27:44 2111640 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "Yeah a few thoughts spring straight into my mind. One the 'abuse' if it happened is not sectarian. Both teams were more than likely predominantly catholic and Irish and one of the 2 teams could reasonably be called both Irish and British if we go by facts. Who says there aren't kids on the team who consider themselves British.. 3 its always striking how thin skinned our Northern Brethern are. Why are Northern Irish teams so thin skinned.Is it pure insecurity ? I thought we were beyond this , apparantly not. Being continuously a victim is in no way empowering." I assume you realise that some will find the term 'Northern Irish' in itself offensive. It is also quite obvious from your post that you did not live through the stuff those in parts of the 6 counties did. Most of all though this sledging and belittling of others has to stop. If it was your child being picked upon you would want something done. Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 14/06/2018 21:33:48 2111642 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "Yeah a few thoughts spring straight into my mind. One the 'abuse' if it happened is not sectarian. Both teams were more than likely predominantly catholic and Irish and one of the 2 teams could reasonably be called both Irish and British if we go by facts. Who says there aren't kids on the team who consider themselves British.. 3 its always striking how thin skinned our Northern Brethern are. Why are Northern Irish teams so thin skinned.Is it pure insecurity ? I thought we were beyond this , apparantly not. Being continuously a victim is in no way empowering." If this did happen your response is disappointing, naive and ignorant. Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 290 - 14/06/2018 21:42:53 2111647 Link
The victimhood complex continues...time to move on lads, you live in one of the greatest countries in the world! Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1064 - 14/06/2018 21:43:17 2111648 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "Yeah a few thoughts spring straight into my mind. One the 'abuse' if it happened is not sectarian. Both teams were more than likely predominantly catholic and Irish and one of the 2 teams could reasonably be called both Irish and British if we go by facts. Who says there aren't kids on the team who consider themselves British.. 3 its always striking how thin skinned our Northern Brethern are. Why are Northern Irish teams so thin skinned.Is it pure insecurity ? I thought we were beyond this , apparantly not. Being continuously a victim is in no way empowering." If some of our northern friends are thin skinned is it any wonder? You haven't a clue what some of them had to go through just to play sport! Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 14/06/2018 21:51:00 2111652 Link
Replying To PeggyShippen: "Yeah a few thoughts spring straight into my mind. One the 'abuse' if it happened is not sectarian. Both teams were more than likely predominantly catholic and Irish and one of the 2 teams could reasonably be called both Irish and British if we go by facts. Who says there aren't kids on the team who consider themselves British.. 3 its always striking how thin skinned our Northern Brethern are. Why are Northern Irish teams so thin skinned.Is it pure insecurity ? I thought we were beyond this , apparantly not. Being continuously a victim is in no way empowering." I and all my family are as Irish as you.........we aren't British just because we live in a part of our island that continues to be occupied by a foreign country, unless you are suggesting that the English never invaded in the first place???? Look reality is thankfully we have moved down the road very significantly in this part of our island but nationalist and republicans up here are rightly proud of their Irish identity and our nationality, we didn't lose it under the threat of violence and we won't lose it now just cos of the attitude of a few seanains ..........unfortunately this kind of abuse suffered by the club in question is becoming more common, I know Down senior hurlers had a number of instances of it with a particular team in Div 2B ( the same team has made a lot of their own team members suffering verbal abuse which is ironic)......I have also heard it at first hand in a Leinster minor league game where one of our lads was called a British c@nt, the irony being the young lad abused comes from a family of republicans whose involvement dates back to the War of Idependence.....in saying that northern teams gave not been adverse to referring to southern teams as 'free state b@stards' etc, again if lads knew their history they would know that term is very offensive to some lads particularly in counties like Kerry etc......you will usually find the idiots making these comments on both sides could do with a history lesson and a bit of manners....... PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 14/06/2018 21:54:28 2111654 Link
Replying To Eddie the Exile: "The victimhood complex continues...time to move on lads, you live in one of the greatest countries in the world!" that's the typical answer we expect from our supposed fellow gaels, fortunately the team involved answered their abusers with going into the changing room and addressing them completely in the native tongue and as their supposed more irish opponents couldn't or wouldn't answer or respond in same shows what is was all about, unfortunately coaches now from the earliest ages are using despicable acts to gain an edge, but 11yr olds or even any u14 lad or lass woud not even know what they were saying or it's meaning so it had to something that was discussed prior to the game. As this club has a history of coming down from tyrone and holding their own and beating some prestigious clubs, obviously the team involved would know what could be expectedfrom a supposed non hurling county bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 14/06/2018 22:05:25 2111661 Link
Replying To IrishGael3: "The manager of this particular team I know tweeted this recently. But what I found really pleasing was the managers son and the captain, just 14 year olds went into the opposing team changing rooms and thanked them for the game and did it all in Irish!!! Now that's one way to react - I wonder how many of the lads who shouted the abuse could understand them?" Yes, what a fantastic response and far more effective than getting involved in a slagging match. He totally put them in their place without stooping to their level. Maith an fear! Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 14/06/2018 22:21:12 2111665 Link
this kind of abuse should not be tolerated. And I hope the GAA deals with it. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 14/06/2018 22:29:49 2111670 Link