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Trim badly need Tougher back!! No pun intended

In_da_ditch (UK) - Posts: 165 - 25/07/2018 12:08:04    2126047

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Think I agree with previous poster I think the new system is working very well with nearly all games being quite competitive so far which will only help all the club's in the long run don't think anyone wants to go back to some of the hammerings that was givin out in the last couple of years.
As for group a it's getting very interesting now kilmessan beating kiltale was a huge shock and throws the group wide open. Think dunboyne are as good as gone would take a miracle now for them to qualify. All others still in with a shout with only killyon guaranteed qualification. Will be tough on whoever loses out now will there be a major shock and kiltale or kildalkey lose out or will it be kilmessan or ratoath who most would have taught earlier on if kilmessan beat dunboyne next time out the last round of games will be very interesting that's for sure.
As for group b it's prob goin the way moist people taught but there still could be a shock or 2 think what someone else said trim lucky they in this group cos they be dead and buried if in the other group but if they get most of there big guns back they could still have a big say. Longwood as good as qualified in first now just need one more win and hard to see them getting that. Don't think anyone will fancy getting them in the quarters. Looks like it could come down to boardsmill and trim game for the other spot both local derby you'd never know what could happen there. Big turnaround for boardsmill who looked like whipping boys last year. Blackhall still in with a shout if they but prob relying on other results to go there way. Relegation looks like dunderry hard to see them escaping this time they have to win their last 2 games which can't see that happening. All in all its been a really good championship so far and looking forward to the rest of it.

Flash27 (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 25/07/2018 13:37:55    2126090

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Group A, wide open so well done to the powers who changed it, no complaints, competitive games no cricket score victories, Killyon good value for their current place, watched them in the 3 games, deserving winners, 2 tough games left and 6 points might not get a semi final spot so 1 more win needed, Ratoath came close to beating Killyon in round 1and deserve the other 2 victories, i saw the latest one against kildalkey and whilst they deserved it but they could have lost it to a poor kildalkey team on the day, need 1 more win to qualify and might struggle to get it but fancy them to beat kilmessan, Kildalkey not showing any real form or consistency and face killyon next then dunboyne, 1 more win will make a qtr final 2 could make a semi, prediction qtr final, Kilatle definetly not firing on all cylinders added to by the sad loss in the Kelly family, 2 hard games left but will qualify and might benefit from the secnic route for a change, Kilmessan, poor start against kildalkey came close to killyon after been 10 down and caused the shock of the year beating kiltale, can probably smell blood now and 2 more wins would qualify them, dont see it happening tho, Dunboyne poor year, wont qualify and will ply their trade in Pool 2 next year,
Gropup B, Longwood, guaranteed qtr final, beat a poor trim team in round 1, likewise round 2 and 3 against boardsmill and NOM, wont be in a semi final, Trim, not going well, need their injured guys back, qtr final no further, BHG, Boardsmill, NOM to survive with Dunderry relegated.
if was a betting man i would say, Killyon and Kiltale direct to a semi final, Ratoath and Kildalkey to qtr final against Longwood and Trim all in those orders.
Ratoath to play Kiltale in Final depending on the way the draw works of who plays who in qtr final's.

Your thoughts people.

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 25/07/2018 15:18:53    2126143

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Predictions for next weekends Hurling Championship - pity some other HC matches could not be on during the may Wed night or do something to free up the bank holiday weekend for lads. Only 1 SHC match on Wed


SENIOR
1st Aug at 7 30pm SHC Group A Killyon v Kildalkey in Páirc Tailteann - referee: Fergus Smith - KIllyon by 2

5th Aug 1 00pm SHC Group B Dunderry v Longwood in Kilmessan - referee: Killian Jones Longwood by 5
5th Aug 2 00pm SHC Group A Ratoath v Kiltale in Páirc Tailteann - referee: Donal Smyth Ratoath by 2
5th Aug at 3.30pm Boardsmill v Trim in Kildalkey - referee: Gus Martyn Boardsmill by 4
5th Aug at 6 00pm O'Mahonys v Blackhall Gaels in Trim - referee: Owen Ganly Blackhall by 4
5th Aug at 6.30pm Kilmessan v St Peter's, Dunboyne in Ratoath - referee: Sean Gahan Kilmessan by 7

INTERMEDIATE
1st Aug 7 30pm Wolfe Tones v Gaeil Colmcille in Paddy O'Brien Park - referee: Donal Smyth Wolftones by 10
1st Aug 7.30pm Drumree v Kilmessan in Ratoath - referee: Patrick Melia Drumree by 5
3rd Aug 7 30pm Clann na nGael v Donaghmore/Ashbourne in Drumree - referee: FSmith Clan na nGael by 5
3rd Aug 7 30pm Kiltale v Kildalkey in Boardsmill - referee: Michael Ryan Kildalkey by 10

JUNIOR
2nd Aug 7 30pm Clann na nGael v Drumree in Kilmessan - Ref Clan na nGael
2nd Aug 7 30pm St Peter's, Dunboyne v Rathmolyon in Dunganny 1 - Rathmolyon
2nd Aug 7.30pm Killyon v Boardsmill in Dunganny 2 - referee: Martin Ennis Killyon
2nd Aug 7 30pm Ratoath v St Patrick's in Ashbourne - Ratoath
3rd Aug 7.30pm Na Fianna CLG v Wolfe Tones in Dunderry - referee: Gerard Smith Na Fianna

ALLGAA32 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 30/07/2018 14:57:26    2127560

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Amazing how a certain club can get fixtures organised to suit themselves and have been doing it for a few years now. All clubs playing at the weekend but a certain club manage to get their fixture organised for the Wednesday night.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 31/07/2018 11:51:54    2127805

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Killyon v Kildalkey funny how this is during the week 3 days after Ballivor and Clonard were playing football. Majority of Killyon lads play football. Il go with kildalkey for this fact alone. The Killyon legs will go with 15mins to go. Killyon already through and will possibly have to play them again so won't be to upset.
Dunderry v Longwood Longwood tipping away quietly and no team will want them in the quarter final. Will get over the line here to leave Dunderry looking at intermediate.
Ratoath v Kiltale bit of shadow boxing here both teams could end up meeting each other again. If Rathoath win kiltale will be taking the scenic route which they won't want. Kiltale by the minimum.
Boardsmill v Trim Boardsmill can make group B very interesting here. Trim really struggled against Dunderry without there big names. Can see Boardsmill sneaking a win here.
O'Mahonys v Blackhall Gaels neither team lighting the world on fire both will be happy to stay up as neither will be a problem for any of the other group.
Kilmessan v St Peter's, Dunboyne kilmessan could run up a big score here depending on where Dunboyne heads are at. Kilmessans tails are up which as kiltale found out is a dangerous team. They will keep there championship alive and sink Dunboyne.
New format is excellent hats off for implementing the change. Will the last round of games be all on at the same time so no team will have an advantage? Wouldn't surprise me if kildalkey got to delay there's if they are under pressure.

hurlinglad15 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 31/07/2018 13:58:42    2127869

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Very competitive in the top group , i would not like to pick top 4
Ratoath the team to beat and killyon going well
Dunboyne all but gone
Longwood going well but in a very poor standard group so hard to gauge

How kildalkey are getting away with pick and chose with fixtures year on year is amazing
Every other team cant get a time change - let alone what they are at
Everybody can see it plain as day ?

They fixed a league game again kiltale 2 days before meath played laois , knowing kiltale would be short all county men , in what was a league semi basically , in a fixture on a random thursday night , just to suit themselves , and worse still got away with it , i never had anything against them but this year every story i hear about them is this kind of thing
I see none of their lads togged for the meath u21s either , strange that
Wonder what nick fitz would do if other clubs started that carry on with the seniors , to put club first

As for kiltale im not sure whats going on out there , minor blip or more ?

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 415 - 31/07/2018 15:55:43    2127915

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Killyon v Kildalkey- I still feel Kildalkey are the team to beat in this championship. A minor blip the last day but will be more than u for this against local rivals. Killyon are the surprise package this year but I still feel they wont get a point from last two games. Kildalkey by 5.

Dunderry v Longwood- Going to be easy for Longwood here. Dunderry handled Trim well for long parts but class told in the end and lost well. Longwood unbeaten and set to top group 2. Longwood by 10.

Ratoath v Kiltale- This will test the stuff of champions. Will Kiltale go a third game without a win? Ratoath are making incredible strides and have some very talented hurlers in the Mc Gowans and Dara Kelly. James Kelly and Jack Regan need to stand up here. KIltale to edge it by 2.

Boardsmill v Trim- Cant really understand people fancying Boardsmill. Although Trim have been very poor I hear James Toher and Mickey Cullen are back fit for this game. Boardsmill overly reliant on Niall Weir and he will have his hands full with Douglas. Trim by 8.

Kilmessan v Dunboyne- Relegation game here by the looks of it. Couldn't believe Kilmessan beat Kiltale and they were full value for it. Should have too much class for a poor Dunboyne side but wont go much further. Kilmessan by 5.

Blackhall v Navan- Very disappointed with Navan as I thought they would be a shining light in this group. Blackhall by 4.

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 169 - 31/07/2018 17:19:38    2127944

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Replying To hurlinglad15:  "Killyon v Kildalkey funny how this is during the week 3 days after Ballivor and Clonard were playing football. Majority of Killyon lads play football. Il go with kildalkey for this fact alone. The Killyon legs will go with 15mins to go. Killyon already through and will possibly have to play them again so won't be to upset.
Dunderry v Longwood Longwood tipping away quietly and no team will want them in the quarter final. Will get over the line here to leave Dunderry looking at intermediate.
Ratoath v Kiltale bit of shadow boxing here both teams could end up meeting each other again. If Rathoath win kiltale will be taking the scenic route which they won't want. Kiltale by the minimum.
Boardsmill v Trim Boardsmill can make group B very interesting here. Trim really struggled against Dunderry without there big names. Can see Boardsmill sneaking a win here.
O'Mahonys v Blackhall Gaels neither team lighting the world on fire both will be happy to stay up as neither will be a problem for any of the other group.
Kilmessan v St Peter's, Dunboyne kilmessan could run up a big score here depending on where Dunboyne heads are at. Kilmessans tails are up which as kiltale found out is a dangerous team. They will keep there championship alive and sink Dunboyne.
New format is excellent hats off for implementing the change. Will the last round of games be all on at the same time so no team will have an advantage? Wouldn't surprise me if kildalkey got to delay there's if they are under pressure."
I think you will find that there were a few Kildalkey lads playing with Ballivor as well and that one of their hurlers was badly injured playing last Sunday.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 31/07/2018 18:29:56    2127976

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Some run out last night by Kildalkey - Kilyon were not in gear at all they looked like they were in control for the first 15/20mins and were keeping with Kildalkey but they never played after that. They had to many wide's some pressure on Kiltale now.

ALLGAA32 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 02/08/2018 11:27:50    2128436

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Replying To hurlit:  "Very competitive in the top group , i would not like to pick top 4
Ratoath the team to beat and killyon going well
Dunboyne all but gone
Longwood going well but in a very poor standard group so hard to gauge

How kildalkey are getting away with pick and chose with fixtures year on year is amazing
Every other team cant get a time change - let alone what they are at
Everybody can see it plain as day ?

They fixed a league game again kiltale 2 days before meath played laois , knowing kiltale would be short all county men , in what was a league semi basically , in a fixture on a random thursday night , just to suit themselves , and worse still got away with it , i never had anything against them but this year every story i hear about them is this kind of thing
I see none of their lads togged for the meath u21s either , strange that
Wonder what nick fitz would do if other clubs started that carry on with the seniors , to put club first

As for kiltale im not sure whats going on out there , minor blip or more ?"
I'd agree with your comments about Kildalkey. Getting things their own way all the time does them no favors when it comes to winning anything, too used to getting it handy. Pulling all their players from the u21 to focus on club is kind of funny considering Ratoath beat them with players that had played u21 the previous day.

Be interesting round of fixtures this weekend. Kiltale v Ratoath the pick of the round. Interesting to see how that one pans out. Should have a good idea of where teams are at come Monday.

begining (UK) - Posts: 300 - 03/08/2018 09:42:37    2128670

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Replying To ALLGAA32:  "Some run out last night by Kildalkey - Kilyon were not in gear at all they looked like they were in control for the first 15/20mins and were keeping with Kildalkey but they never played after that. They had to many wide's some pressure on Kiltale now."
Killyon seemed to be just fulfilling the fixture and never appeared to want to win as they are qualified where as it was a MUST win for Kildalkey. Both Kiltale and Ratoath have a tough run in to finish the group.

There may still be a "big name" casualty in this group where as Boardsmill have it in their power to cause an upset in Group B, local derby (very local) so anything is possible.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 03/08/2018 10:13:00    2128683

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Replying To begining:  "I'd agree with your comments about Kildalkey. Getting things their own way all the time does them no favors when it comes to winning anything, too used to getting it handy. Pulling all their players from the u21 to focus on club is kind of funny considering Ratoath beat them with players that had played u21 the previous day.

Be interesting round of fixtures this weekend. Kiltale v Ratoath the pick of the round. Interesting to see how that one pans out. Should have a good idea of where teams are at come Monday."
kilalkey killyon was a little surprise for me thought kilyon would have been better, kildalkey played well and i think could offer more as the campaign goes on, big weekend ahead, if kilmessan beat dunboyne they will be going into last round looking to beat ratoath for a qtr place, ratoath and kiltale is hard to predict, if ratoath get the same level of performance as aginst kildalkey they could win this game, hard to know how it will go, im going to try predict the outcome group A

SHC Group A
TEAM PLAYED WON DRAWN LOST FOR AGAINST DIFFERENCE POINTS
Killyon 4 3 0 1 90 93 -3 6 might not win another group game finish on 6
Kildalkey 4 2 1 1 90 71 19 5 will finish on 7 points
Ratoath 3 2 0 1 65 58 7 4 will finish on 6 points
Kiltale 3 1 1 1 56 50 6 3 will finish on 7 points
Kilmes 3 1 0 2 56 68 -12 2 will finish on 4 points
Dunb 3 0 0 3 54 71 -17 0 will finish on 0 points
Fixtures
WHENCOMPETITIONCLUB 1 CLUB 2VENUE
05/08/18 - 2 00 PM Round 4 RatoathVKiltalePáirc Tailteann - referee: Donal Smyth
05/08/18 - 6 30 PM Round 4 KilmessanVSt Peter's, DunboyneRatoath - referee: Sean Gahan
TBC Round 5 KilmessanVRatoath -
TBC Round 5 KiltaleVKillyon -
TBC Round 5 KildalkeyVSt Peter's, Dunboyne -

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 03/08/2018 13:16:19    2128734

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How many teams switch between Group A and Group B for next year? Is it one or two teams from each group?

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 253 - 03/08/2018 15:34:46    2128767

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One team. Looks like Longwood will.be that team with Dunboyne going them other way.

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 03/08/2018 21:33:03    2128823

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Replying To overthehill72:  "Kildalkey were the better team last night but Kiltale should be a lot stronger come the end of championship as they are missing 5 to 6 players.
i wouldnt write kildalkey off yet though and killyon and ratoath are the next best teams. Trim and Killyon should qualify from group B"
If there are no shocks in final round it looks as if group will finish:

Ratoath 8 Points
Kildalkey 7 Points
Killyon 6 Points and will play 2nd in Tier 2 in QF
Kiltale 5 Points and will play Longwood in QF
Dunboyne 2 Points
Kilmessan 2 Points and Relegated on head to head

Kiltale could effectively lose their last game and still qualify, comical.

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 169 - 05/08/2018 20:45:24    2129641

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Replying To Meathgaalad:  "If there are no shocks in final round it looks as if group will finish:

Ratoath 8 Points
Kildalkey 7 Points
Killyon 6 Points and will play 2nd in Tier 2 in QF
Kiltale 5 Points and will play Longwood in QF
Dunboyne 2 Points
Kilmessan 2 Points and Relegated on head to head

Kiltale could effectively lose their last game and still qualify, comical."
A week ago lads were saying it's great how so many teams were still in with a shot, now it's "comical"?

In a group of 6 with 4 teams advancing, a team with 3 points has a great chance of going through anyway.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 05/08/2018 21:25:27    2129672

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Longwood 3-19 Dunderry 0-6
Trim 1-19 Boardsmill 0-17
O'Mahonys 3-16 Blackhall 3-8

Longwood & Trim tipping along - Longwood enough in the tank to make teams think. Trim relying on Alan Douglas other lads not at the races - Boardsmill should be kicking themselves.


Dunboyne 2-21 Kilmessan 1-13
Ratoath 1-16 Kiltale 0-16
Kildalkey 1-24 Killyon 1-12

Dunboyne need the win and work for it Sean Quigley was excellent and Niall Hackett did enough they knuckled down and got what they put into the match. Kilmessan were struggling and things just didn't go there way.

Ratoath are the team for 2018 - the table is turning a great performance some full-forward line and the rest of the team was also on fire. Great stick work and youth on there side. Kiltale are struggling not getting enough out of some of their players. Their forwards had enough ball and could not turn it around. Gavin McGowan was let run riot very surprised they did not drop someone in to assist the fullback. Cian Rogers excellent and Dara Kelly the spine in Ratoath is there.

Last round will be interesting

ALLGAA32 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 07/08/2018 15:05:07    2130456

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Fancy rathoth myself. Them or killyon to get back to form wit kick up backside they got off kildalkey just what they needed. Kiltale goin round talking about Leinster championship already!!! Killyon to beat them and they'll be lookin for rathoth and kildalkey to do a favour.

JohnboyWalton (Meath) - Posts: 19 - 10/08/2018 13:56:23    2131535

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I think when it gets to the business end of the season Kiltale will up a gear or two and still would be my favorites to win it out.

oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 10/08/2018 15:43:12    2131573

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