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I would agree, although in the case of Semple it's the second biggest ground outside of Croker and for a ground of such standing it really is a long long way off the standard it should be at. Refurbishing old structures is never the ideal solution and the new PUC beats it up a stick being honest, won't be l My before the planners are back about Thurles again methinks
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 18/06/2018 22:40:31 2112925 Link 1 |
No real slight on the Gaelic Grounds now, I like what they done there but just when you spend that much money why not put a roof on the stand, it would make such a difference, I know they want to do it and I would assume it was designed and built that a roof could be added quite easily and the GAA should look at projects like that and prioritise them now which would make a real difference to spectator comfort without a major rebuild
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 18/06/2018 23:06:27 2112936 Link 1 |
Hahaha, you're probably right! I'd say the stadium is pretty much as finished as it needs to, or will be. It'd probably cost into the millions to build another terrace, and the extra capacity would be needed once every 10+ years anyway? Why not put that money elsewhere, player development for example (esp. underage). The ground as it is, it's more than adequate. extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 18/06/2018 23:40:36 2112940 Link 0 |
people talk about putting terraces behind the goals in o connor park - why?i have never seen the stand full let alone the terrace. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 19/06/2018 09:01:01 2112962 Link 0 |
I understand some season ticket holders were not accommodated in Ennis last Sunday
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4338 - 19/06/2018 22:23:42 2113217 Link 0 |
We play Leinster games outside Leinster, if counties don't bother with the required facilites then tough no right to complain if they have no home games. Most counties try to upgrade county grounds, ironically Dublin have been held back in this area by the use of Croke Park.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 19/06/2018 22:39:35 2113221 Link 0 |
It's not that great a rebuild. The Mackey stand has poor viewing and needs to be knocked to be honest. It's 88 I think since that was built. The terraces are good and the 'open stand is good. I don't think roofing it is as big an issue as it's made out. As bad as our summer's can be, for 3 or 4 big matches a year..it's not worth the money to roof it. Alot if the big American college stadiums are open aswell. Thurles is disappointing.The old and new stands could have been redone way better. I disagree with all the alcohol sales points in there aswell especially with Ireland's dysfunctional relationship with drink. That Rubicon should have been left. Cusack Park...a disaster. Stand should be demolished. Toilets make the elderly and young cry. They've very little room in there but they haven't even tarmaced behind the terraces PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 20/06/2018 10:03:59 2113286 Link 0 |
This again is a typical GAA screw up. The decision to change the format of the championship should not have taken place until all teams were on the same level regards home and away games irrespective of who's fault grounds were not ready. In fact if a county was not ready they should have the right to veto any such decision under a rule that any change has to be fair and equal for all. Also the same is true of hawk eye. Games are played under different rules depending on the venue. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 20/06/2018 13:35:17 2113347 Link 0 |
By that logic we couldn't move forward in Munster with a new format until Waterfords terrible home stadium is dragged into the 21st century. That's un fair to everyone else. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 20/06/2018 15:02:37 2113367 Link 0 |
Dead right the format should not go forward until Waterford were ready. How is that unfair to everyone else ? Everyone had the same rights on the existing system. One loss you went to the qualifiers. The very least could have been was to say that Waterford can play their homes at a venue of their choice. I have no doubt they would say Thurles to do this Saturday games could be used to avoid clashes with Tipps home games. No the system had to twice penalize us with no home games and four straight games like Tipp, while others got a break week. How fair is all that sh-t if you want to talk about fair. You are right it will not be ready for two years because the planning is not even approved yet. So the answer is to continue to penalize our players and supporters. I know that is o.k. with the Deise haters. What did we do to deserve all the negativity I would like to know? Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 20/06/2018 18:37:52 2113421 Link 0 |
This is a Waterford Country Board screw up. No ones else.
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2490 - 21/06/2018 03:19:50 2113486 Link 0 |
The Waterford County board did not change the format of the championship. You seem to have some sort of an understanding problem.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 21/06/2018 12:08:04 2113544 Link 0 |
Do you know how many home games Galway had last year as they won the All-Ireland? Zero. In terms of a fair playing field, the format had to go ahead. Waterford should long since had a suitable venue in place to host home games (which they haven't in Munster since god knows when?) Instead the county board has two sub-standard venues in place in Fraher Field and Walsh Park. You only have to read the google reviews on Walsh Park to see its limitations. Miami305 (Galway) - Posts: 147 - 21/06/2018 13:08:59 2113561 Link 0 |
Neither did anyone else except counties who had arrangements with each other. Have you been away or something. The home and away series started this season. It was the Leinster teams that had their foot on yere neck as the saw ye as a Connaught team with no rights in their provence. Rightly or wrongly. Waterford are a Munster team and should have the same rights as the other Munster counties. With regards Walsh Park and Fraher Field there is a lot of comments from people like you outside the county who do not know all the facts and the other mitigating circumstances as well as the county board's neglect. The GAA had a responsibility before making changes to the Munster Championship to ensure that all counties had equal opportunities. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 21/06/2018 22:30:56 2113659 Link 0 |
I think Lohan is right Canuck. The format change caught the county board ou with their pants down. Kilkenny county board are continuously improving Nowlan park and they fixed the stand where the roof blew off in the last two years. Waterford county board should want to have a nice ground anyway. Tipp and Limerick have upgraded their grounds in the last 10 years and Cork have built a beautiful new stadium. Obviously Cusack park is up to scratch too. Waterford were the only one of the 10 who had to concede home ground advantage. I hope the upgraded Walsh park will be nice. It's a pity that the city missed out on the tourist revenue two home games would have brought. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 22/06/2018 05:49:25 2113683 Link 0 |
In fairness to Waterford, this time last year they had a county ground that was fine. Not great but it did it's job in terms of League games and county championships. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 22/06/2018 08:04:05 2113686 Link 1 |
Thank you MesAmis. Exactly right. We deserved a heads up long before any change came up and the change should have been only possible if all had equal opportunity. To add insult to injury it was dictated where we could play our home games while scrambling to meet the requirements. The begrudgers on here are quiet happy if this unfairness continues next year. Also we have all these experts outside our county who know what Waterford didn't do, what the should have done and now what they need to do. We are not a big county and the supporters have been putting their money where their mouths are with raffles, fund raising events, travelling away from home etc. I have no doubt the same people will be whining about us when Walsh Park is completed. Too hard to get across the river. Too far south, not enough parking and so on. . Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 22/06/2018 22:14:07 2113816 Link 0 |
After what has transpired with Kildare and the GAA Waterford need to insist that their home games are played in Fraher Field next year. It has 9,000 capacity also and has held an All-Ireland senior final as well as many under 21 finals. Waterford need to concern itself with it's own supporters and their rights. Tough sh-t if there are no tickets for the opposition. This all was the making of the GAA, Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 27/06/2018 13:42:09 2115955 Link 0 |
So Waterford weren't let play "home" matches in Nowlan Park because it's in Leinster and yet the Leinster final replay is going to Thurles!!! You could not make this up I swear...... Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 01/07/2018 18:31:39 2117318 Link 1 |
Was that a Munster Council decisions Central Council?
joeteor (Donegal) - Posts: 218 - 01/07/2018 18:49:05 2117323 Link 0 |