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Steps! Steps !!

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Every week now I am infuriated by the failure to police the steps rule in GAA. This weekend alone there were several outrageous examples which weren't even commented on by the media. Liam rushe took 10+ steps in the lead up to Dublin goal. Fermanagh midfielder took 11 steps before delivering the high ball that led to their goal . And there were lots of other examples. It's a joke and it's killing the ability of defenders to make a clean dispossession. Instead it just leads to dragging. The only time refs seem to implement it is when a forward is swallowed up on the ground and often fouled but is penalised for not releasing. It's a shambles.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 607 - 03/06/2018 23:22:49    2107107

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "Every week now I am infuriated by the failure to police the steps rule in GAA. This weekend alone there were several outrageous examples which weren't even commented on by the media. Liam rushe took 10+ steps in the lead up to Dublin goal. Fermanagh midfielder took 11 steps before delivering the high ball that led to their goal . And there were lots of other examples. It's a joke and it's killing the ability of defenders to make a clean dispossession. Instead it just leads to dragging. The only time refs seem to implement it is when a forward is swallowed up on the ground and often fouled but is penalised for not releasing. It's a shambles."
Liam Rushe's steps was 3 weeks ago yet somehow you remember his still wow , you could of just said Tom Devine's first point yesterday we're he took about 15 steps or Patrick Horgans steps for his goal on Saturday.

You're not wrong but all players over carry the ref would be blowing every 30 seconds which would drive us all nuts.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9232 - 04/06/2018 09:10:36    2107146

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "Every week now I am infuriated by the failure to police the steps rule in GAA. This weekend alone there were several outrageous examples which weren't even commented on by the media. Liam rushe took 10+ steps in the lead up to Dublin goal. Fermanagh midfielder took 11 steps before delivering the high ball that led to their goal . And there were lots of other examples. It's a joke and it's killing the ability of defenders to make a clean dispossession. Instead it just leads to dragging. The only time refs seem to implement it is when a forward is swallowed up on the ground and often fouled but is penalised for not releasing. It's a shambles."
Sure the rule is 4 steps in reality it's some where between 5 and 10 steps a sad reality that this simple rule is not implemented properly by officials who probably have too much on there plate these days with more and more rules being piled on. The people who come up with the rule changes these days don't seem to grasp they are putting too much work on refs maybe it's time to have two refs on the field to cover the ground more efficiently.

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 629 - 04/06/2018 09:33:15    2107153

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Liam Rushe's steps was 3 weeks ago yet somehow you remember his still wow , you could of just said Tom Devine's first point yesterday we're he took about 15 steps or Patrick Horgans steps for his goal on Saturday.

You're not wrong but all players over carry the ref would be blowing every 30 seconds which would drive us all nuts."
No Liam rushes was v offaly. But it's not a point aBout Dublin. I actually really like your hurling team and pat Gilroy. It's a general point

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 607 - 04/06/2018 09:53:36    2107166

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When you're tackled while running with the ball, the number of permitted steps doubles (it seems). Then add in a couple of changes of directions and you're in double figures.

In fairness to referees, with excessive steps being so rampant now in the game, you don't see defenders complaining as much as you'd imagine they would, which must give an indication as to how hard excessive steps is to police in real time.

To give two recent examples involving my own county, the aforementioned Rushe one https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/liam-rushe-159913 and Kilkenny vs Galway, Wally Walsh's goal towards the end of the game. In both instances I don't think defenders even questioned the number of steps taken

Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 73 - 04/06/2018 09:56:39    2107167

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To me it seems more like 4 seconds than four steps. You know yourself when it looks like someone has overcarried and when it doesn't.

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1341 - 04/06/2018 14:48:56    2107301

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Westmeath's second goal against Antrim 8-10 steps were taken, and it has meant Antrim losing rather than winning a tight match. If the guy is being fouled it makes sense to give him a few additional steps to sort himself out, but that wasn't the case on Saturday. Also a square ball given by a ref that was 40 yards away when umpires seen it clearly, maybe fairer refereeing would be a step forward.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 310 - 04/06/2018 15:23:50    2107314

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things never blown
1. dropping the hurl
2. steps
3. charging
throwing the ball
things blown incorrectly
1. grab the hurl,fall down
2. turn into a shoulder.
3. throw the ball over a player head,run into him.
4. played running,trips himself up.free every time.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 2893 - 04/06/2018 22:50:58    2107488

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Replying To perfect10:  "things never blown
1. dropping the hurl
2. steps
3. charging
throwing the ball
things blown incorrectly
1. grab the hurl,fall down
2. turn into a shoulder.
3. throw the ball over a player head,run into him.
4. played running,trips himself up.free every time."
Dropping the hurl was blown in Waterford v Tipp
Steps was blown in all three televised hurling games, though not often enough
A throw was blown in Wex v Galway

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 944 - 04/06/2018 23:02:41    2107496

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Dessie Mone got tripped by a Fermanagh defender on Sunday. He fell to the ground, no free given, he gets up, bounces the ball and gets blown for taking too many steps. Mind boggling. It's a free that's given in almost every game and it makes no sense at all.

Adler (Monaghan) - Posts: 716 - 05/06/2018 03:00:11    2107524

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Replying To 890202:  "Dropping the hurl was blown in Waterford v Tipp
Steps was blown in all three televised hurling games, though not often enough
A throw was blown in Wex v Galway"
A free was also given for charging in the Wexford game Saturday against Conor Cooney. So that's 3 of the 4 fouls that are never given that were called in the most recent Wexford game.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2204 - 05/06/2018 08:44:46    2107548

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Replying To Adler:  "Dessie Mone got tripped by a Fermanagh defender on Sunday. He fell to the ground, no free given, he gets up, bounces the ball and gets blown for taking too many steps. Mind boggling. It's a free that's given in almost every game and it makes no sense at all."
You are correct but on another occasion he set up a good score by taking about 11 steps - sometimes these things balance out. The Ref has an impossible task they way rules have been added and none of the added rules have done anything to improve the game.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1872 - 05/06/2018 09:54:42    2107564

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It may be all in my head but the further up the divisions in the national league the more rife this is. You get pulled for it more in division 4 than in division 1 anyway. Teams in division 1 powerfully running forward and when they meet a challange just keep on running, no frees for steps given. Don't get me started on the hand passes, 90% are not legal handpasses in my opinion, just flick the ball any old way to the next runner too

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 393 - 05/06/2018 11:16:40    2107613

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The rule book should change so that the 'steps' allowed catches up with that in practice - so how many - still limit to 7 ?
Aussie AFL allows more flexibility here and yields a faster more open game.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 1312 - 05/06/2018 12:12:58    2107640

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Replying To Soma:  "A free was also given for charging in the Wexford game Saturday against Conor Cooney. So that's 3 of the 4 fouls that are never given that were called in the most recent Wexford game."
how many was there in total in the game?

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 2893 - 05/06/2018 13:44:25    2107678

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Replying To 890202:  "Dropping the hurl was blown in Waterford v Tipp
Steps was blown in all three televised hurling games, though not often enough
A throw was blown in Wex v Galway"
Players have been getting away with throwing the sliotar for years.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2310 - 05/06/2018 15:14:55    2107730

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Maybe players should be allowed to bounce the ball or play the ball at least once before they can be tackled. It would get rid of a lot of over-carrying. Anyway just a thought.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 348 - 13/06/2018 16:02:30    2111124

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