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Fermanagh V Monaghan

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Replying To offtheditch:  "Monaghan "Mouthy bottles""
well done Fermanagh. Deserved it on the day. Mattie could really take a leaf out of their book. Just shows that the weaker counties including Cavan could have a shot at the big teams on any given day.

Farney1977 (Monaghan) - Posts: 59 - 03/06/2018 18:34:48    2106964

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Replying To kildare73:  "You are dead right, you will see some sort of football. Not a free taking competition with awful football in between. Kildare scored more in losing than Fermanagh scored to win. Looking at this, Ulster ain't got much to crow about."
Kildare scored 1-10 against a team who played in Division 4 this year ... not exactly earth shattering.
Monaghan scored 1-18 (combined total of both teams today) in their last outing against Tyrone who are reputed to be as defensive as Fermanagh - counted for nothing today.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 03/06/2018 18:45:54    2106973

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Replying To befair:  "Everything that's wrong with GAA football. Massed defences, endless hand-passing around the 45. It's even worse at club level. Rule change needed to de-incentivise the blanket defence"
Yeah you're right. They should go man to man and take their twenty point beating.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 03/06/2018 18:49:03    2106976

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Just had the feeling watching this what was going to happen in the end. Hard to believe from a Monaghan point of view we were beaten two years in a row by being bullied out of it in the same fashion, especially in the first half. Complacency cost us again. Will be hard to pick it up again but at least we are not out next week, don't become a bad team because of one loss. Best of luck in the final to the long suffering Fermanagh gaels

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 03/06/2018 18:56:34    2106983

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Replying To Curlew66:  "Wasnt any worse than Mayo v Galway.
In fairness Ulster have landed 5 titles since Sam last crossed the Shannon in 2001"
In reply, Curlew66 how does Galway "Sam visits" compare with your Roscommon? Here are the facts...enough said!
Galway won 9 All-Ireland Senior Football Championships: 1925,1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.
Roscommon won 2 All-Ireland Senior Football Championships: 1943, 1944.

WestRules (Galway) - Posts: 269 - 03/06/2018 19:00:22    2106986

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Well done Fermanagh - hungrier on the day. Anyway off we go through the back door. To be honest, I find it fairly pathetic the Cavan glee on this forum, but perhaps it makes them feel better about their lost decades.
Good luck in the final to the Erne men!

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 03/06/2018 19:25:26    2106998

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Replying To WestRules:  "In reply, Curlew66 how does Galway "Sam visits" compare with your Roscommon? Here are the facts...enough said!
Galway won 9 All-Ireland Senior Football Championships: 1925,1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.
Roscommon won 2 All-Ireland Senior Football Championships: 1943, 1944."
Totally different topic WestRule .. I dont see the relevance of your reply atall. I was only replying to to your comment on how far behind the other provinces Ulster are. They have done as well as Connacht (which includes Roscommon and Galway) in the past two decades. Im sorry if you didnt understand that .. enough said.
I would love if Galway won the double this year .. its just that I dont get any kicks out of rubbishing other teams/provinces .. keep counting !

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 03/06/2018 19:26:12    2106999

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I like your logic, Tyrone still the best Ulster team despite getting beaten in the first round, I just hope we can get past Down now to meet Fermanagh in the Ulster final. Monaghan don't seem to handle the pressure of being favourites too well, I'd love to see Fermanagh make it to the super 8's whatever happens."
Yes I'm well aware Tyrone were beaten by Monaghan doesn't mean Monaghan are better same way Fermanagh aren't better then Monaghan even though they won today or that Monaghan are better then Dublin because they won against them in the league. These are one of games. If Tyrone and Monaghan played 10 Tyrone would win the majority of them. What I was saying as the year Progress's Tyrone will show they are the best ulster team.

Mike_Clitoris69 (Cavan) - Posts: 230 - 03/06/2018 19:33:04    2107003

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Replying To greysoil:  "Well done Fermanagh - hungrier on the day. Anyway off we go through the back door. To be honest, I find it fairly pathetic the Cavan glee on this forum, but perhaps it makes them feel better about their lost decades.
Good luck in the final to the Erne men!"
Don't waste your time on those that are only willing to comment or give an appraisal of a team when they lose. It shows a lack of something.... They were nowhere to be seen after the Tyrone game. We played two games in the championship not one, and everyone bar NY are still in it.

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 03/06/2018 19:39:41    2107005

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Replying To lambofgod:  "Where are all the cocky Monaghan supporters now???"
Same place you were two weeks ago after the Tyrone game....

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 03/06/2018 19:56:38    2107012

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Congrats to Fermanagh. They deserved it and plain wanted it more. Monaghan didnt perform and looked completely flat in the first half. We improved in the second half but still never hit near full tilt - largely because Fermanagh stifled our game. Fermanagh were very well organised and mostly disciplined at the back. Their forward play is probably lacking (thankfully or they would have racked up a much bigger score in the first half!)

It gives Donegal/Down plenty to think about after next week. Nothing against either of them but I would love to see Fermanagh win Ulster - it will be tough but it would be massive.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 03/06/2018 20:06:47    2107019

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Replying To Curlew66:  "
Replying To WestRules:  "In reply, Curlew66 how does Galway "Sam visits" compare with your Roscommon? Here are the facts...enough said!
Galway won 9 All-Ireland Senior Football Championships: 1925,1934, 1938, 1956, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1998, 2001.
Roscommon won 2 All-Ireland Senior Football Championships: 1943, 1944."
Totally different topic WestRule .. I dont see the relevance of your reply atall. I was only replying to to your comment on how far behind the other provinces Ulster are. They have done as well as Connacht (which includes Roscommon and Galway) in the past two decades. Im sorry if you didnt understand that .. enough said.
I would love if Galway won the double this year .. its just that I dont get any kicks out of rubbishing other teams/provinces .. keep counting !"
Ulster has done as well as Connacht in last two decades. Really? Just, as well? Tyrone, Armagh and Donegal have won All Irelands since then.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 03/06/2018 20:41:56    2107033

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Replying To greysoil:  "Well done Fermanagh - hungrier on the day. Anyway off we go through the back door. To be honest, I find it fairly pathetic the Cavan glee on this forum, but perhaps it makes them feel better about their lost decades.
Good luck in the final to the Erne men!"
I think it's stemming somewhat from the presence of Monaghan posters on the Cavan page prior to and after the Donegal game.

And some (not all) Monaghan posters do themselves no favours when they talk of resting players for what was always going to be a tough ulster championship game.

There are a few other posters from other counties commenting on Monaghan too - so it looks like Cavan aren't the common denominator here.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 03/06/2018 21:09:30    2107044

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Tyrone will be out by 7pm Saturday eve. Not very long summer.
Hon the royal"
Ease on there RD, Rory knows how to use the blanket, he was there at it's gestation, our man thinks "blanket defense" is the name of a racehorse or something like that!!

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1066 - 03/06/2018 21:15:06    2107046

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Congrats to fermanagh better side on the day. Our attitude to the match was pathetic showed v little hunger or desire with odd exception. Seemed some of our players thought be an easy case of coasting along to a final and saving themselves for then. Not sure why as exact same thing happened last year v down but this was nearly worse as we were forewarned prior to this. The hype after tyrone match seemed to have had an impact. Massive blow to mgmt and team as going to be v difficult to pick it back up for a run in qualifiers. A lot of our best players are around or over the 30 mark and really needed to go the front door to have a good summer. We have talented younger players but mgmt don't trust them at this level however they might not have been as complacent as our more senior players today who continue to dine out on matches played 3 or 4 years ago. Good luck to fermanagh in final.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1802 - 03/06/2018 21:23:02    2107051

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By all reports this was as bad a game as any that have gone before from reports on people who saw it. Did not see it as I was at our game. Well done Fermanagh. Gas many posters some from Monaghan went to town on us after the poor Mayo Galway game. Just shows that it can be up or down for most and this is the very reason I would not start throwing stones at Monaghan as you don't become a bad team overnight. A team to be watched in the qualifiers mark my words.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 03/06/2018 21:26:59    2107052

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Replying To MillerX:  "Ease on there RD, Rory knows how to use the blanket, he was there at it's gestation, our man thinks "blanket defense" is the name of a racehorse or something like that!!"
Oh have faith. This Is the man who mdm said was best manager he ever played under, also took the 4/5 ranked club in county to not only co success but Leinster and all ire too

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/06/2018 21:28:33    2107055

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Replying To Curlew66:  "Kildare scored 1-10 against a team who played in Division 4 this year ... not exactly earth shattering.
Monaghan scored 1-18 (combined total of both teams today) in their last outing against Tyrone who are reputed to be as defensive as Fermanagh - counted for nothing today."
Firstly I never said it was earth shattering, it was actually poor, but at least the paying supporters saw a game of football. Might be no harm to read more than one post mate. If you want to call that game today entertaining then be my guest.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 03/06/2018 21:51:10    2107065

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Replying To WestRules:  "Gosh Ulster football is far behind the rest of the provinces. But well done to the gallant efforts of a wee county like Fermanagh! Shame on Monaghan, Tyrone, Armagh in particular!!"
What a difference a week makes and what a brass neck on some people. The game between Monaghan and Tyrone was lauded as a good game by most people and it occurred just a week after the boring and laboured snore fest between galway and Mayo so spare people with that type of myopic and oblivious commentary. I'm sure it was a delight to be sitting in the stands in Killarney today to watch a nothing game. At least the game in Omagh was tight to the very end and had an undeniably dramatic finish. But we're lead to believe the likes of the turkey shoot in Killarney and the same regular occurrence that goes on in Leinster is better. Give me a break.
Just like to say well done to Fermanagh fans tonight. I'm sure you'll do well in the final. That teams all heart and guts for sure. To Monaghan fans,don't worry too much you are still a good team and have a say yet. Sometimes you get ambushed occasionally but you just have to get ready for the next game.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 03/06/2018 22:30:57    2107086

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I think it's stemming somewhat from the presence of Monaghan posters on the Cavan page prior to and after the Donegal game.

And some (not all) Monaghan posters do themselves no favours when they talk of resting players for what was always going to be a tough ulster championship game.

There are a few other posters from other counties commenting on Monaghan too - so it looks like Cavan aren't the common denominator here."
The embarrassingly negative comments are mostly from Cavan supporters...nothing wrong with commentary but just delighted to see a Monaghan defeat by any other team. Monaghan posters on Cavan site around Donegal game were just discussing football and were less negative in the main than comments from Cavan supporters themselves. But I suppose there is huge frustration in Cavan for many years now many years now and that manifests itself from time to time in embarrassingly negative ways.

'talk of resting players' is a legitimate comment where there is a close call in selection between some players of roughly equal ability....it's called squad rotation. And you can be sure that if either Cavan or Monaghan are to progress further this year then this will be on the agenda for both counties.

We beat Tyrone and their supporters accepted their defeat sportingly. Likewise we offer our congratulations to Fermanagh. So stop indulging in negative commentary where it's not justified. True supporters love this game......leave the petty jealousies and bitterness behind. Monaghan supporters will turn out in force to support their county in the qualifiers.
Will Cavan's ?

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 03/06/2018 22:47:08    2107092

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