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Tyrone in 00s v Dublin in the 10s

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With regard to Conor Gormleys recent statement, self praise is no praise. Dublin have won 5 All-Irelands and 5 National Leagues and could still add to this. Tyrone won 3 All-Irelands in 00s. and Tyrone won through the back door. The number of titles won will always be a benchmark. The number of outstanding players Dublin have is more impressive than Tyrone, i.e. Stephen Cluxton, Rory O'Carroll, James McCarthy, Cian O'Sullivan, Brian Fenton, Paul Flynn, Kieran Killkenny, Diarmuid Connolly, Bernard Brogan et al.. Dublin in their golden era are winning games the whole year round. They dont just win the All-Ireland and hibernate. When Dublin are at their best the football is breath taking. Pat Spillane recently said that Dublin are the second best team he has ever seen. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 27/04/2018 15:53:04 2095313 Link
I think that's being a little bit harsh on Tyrone, they were in an absolutely cut throat province surrounded by excellent teams, and had to deal with the tragic loss of an important team member in the middle of their run. They did remarkably well in the circumstances. Dublin's second 15 would probably win Leinster and they have an incredibly deep panel allowing them to compete year round. Their achievements are remarkable and I'm not trying to take away from them but its a different situation entirely to what Tyrone faced back then. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 27/04/2018 16:30:51 2095323 Link
My pet hate. An absolutely pointless discussion as it is LITERALLY impossible to know Person A will say Dublin would win, Person B would say Tyrone, Itll probably be dragged out over pages and pages of nonsense arguments for and against one team. Quality of individuals, Team work and ethic, The opposition in respective eras, And in the end, We will still not know. So why waste your time arguing one way or the other... waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 27/04/2018 17:28:33 2095333 Link
Na..current dubs would of taken them no problem. Current dubs would of beaten any team in the history of the game especially the so called best of all time kerry easily... GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 27/04/2018 17:35:20 2095335 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "So basically we only win cause of money BUT also every team is brutal now aswell ha. The mayo and Donegal players of this era are legends in their county. Who was good in the 00's? Apart from Kerry and Tyrone ? And Kerry as good as they were couldn't beat the only other good team of that era, so you can always say teams aren't good but it's bs to put this Dublin team down right now." Haven't you been ranting about how Donegal were lucky in 2014? How you're saying they're great? You're another who time and time again dismisses Mayo but you're now using them to back up some sort of point. Also are you trying to say the only reason Kerry or Tyrone won All-Irelands is because no one else was any good? why (Kildare) - Posts: 142 - 27/04/2018 17:44:37 2095339 Link
Replying To waynoI: "My pet hate. An absolutely pointless discussion as it is LITERALLY impossible to know Person A will say Dublin would win, Person B would say Tyrone, Itll probably be dragged out over pages and pages of nonsense arguments for and against one team. Quality of individuals, Team work and ethic, The opposition in respective eras, And in the end, We will still not know. So why waste your time arguing one way or the other..." If you don't like the topic then don't take part in the discussion /arguements. It's easy. No, we won't know after all is said and done but there are some interesting points of view from those who want to discuss it. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 27/04/2018 17:55:09 2095341 Link
I'd love to see Fenton take of Darragh O'Se Think O'Se would struggle badly this day and age with the role of a midfielder changing a lot this decade.. honestly think Fenton would have way too much pace jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/04/2018 18:00:50 2095344 Link
Replying To GGdub: "Na..current dubs would of taken them no problem. Current dubs would of beaten any team in the history of the game especially the so called best of all time kerry easily..." Would have ! Not would of ! Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 767 - 27/04/2018 18:27:44 2095348 Link
I'd love if mark O'Connor would come home from Australia, he'd be the best midfielder in the country by a mile. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/04/2018 18:33:30 2095350 Link
Replying To waynoI: "My pet hate. An absolutely pointless discussion as it is LITERALLY impossible to know Person A will say Dublin would win, Person B would say Tyrone, Itll probably be dragged out over pages and pages of nonsense arguments for and against one team. Quality of individuals, Team work and ethic, The opposition in respective eras, And in the end, We will still not know. So why waste your time arguing one way or the other..." At the risk of sounding flippant, have you ever had a conversation with anyone ever about sport? :) 90% of is "we'll never know" stuff! MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 27/04/2018 18:59:48 2095352 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "I'd love if mark O'Connor would come home from Australia, he'd be the best midfielder in the country by a mile." Oh yeah the completely unproven at senior level turn coat jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/04/2018 19:02:43 2095353 Link
Sorry forgot the ;) jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/04/2018 19:04:41 2095354 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Oh yeah the completely unproven at senior level turn coat" Did you think that about Kilkenny when he went as well? why (Kildare) - Posts: 142 - 27/04/2018 19:13:40 2095357 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "I'd love to see Fenton take of Darragh O'Se Think O'Se would struggle badly this day and age with the role of a midfielder changing a lot this decade.. honestly think Fenton would have way too much pace" It's quite funny to see you use the word honestly when it comes to anything about Dublin why (Kildare) - Posts: 142 - 27/04/2018 19:15:11 2095358 Link
Replying To why: "It's quite funny to see you use the word honestly when it comes to anything about Dublin" Ahh less of the personal stuff why... Why are you always so angry? It's about the posts not the posters I think Fenton would run rings around O'Se It's just an opinion.. no need to get all militant and go looking for fights This has been a good debate and I shouldn't have said turn coat without adding the ;) I retract it. Now please any chance of sticking to topic or as per usual is your sole contribution to the forum going be about having digs at Dublin posters ? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/04/2018 19:25:11 2095359 Link
Replying To why: "Haven't you been ranting about how Donegal were lucky in 2014? How you're saying they're great? You're another who time and time again dismisses Mayo but you're now using them to back up some sort of point. Also are you trying to say the only reason Kerry or Tyrone won All-Irelands is because no one else was any good?" Dublin or Mayo certainly weren't anything special and both Tyrone and Kerry prospered greatly by playing those two quite poor versions of Dublin and Mayo.. certainly compared to both teams now! Any team that put it up to Kerry in the 00's generally beat them.. that pattern continued in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 and 2013... Kerry certainly didn't prosper against the best teams over the past two decades There were a fair few handy AI wins in the 00's compared to the 10's - some completely one sided poor finals where it was obvious a team was well out of its depth That's yet to happen in the 10's - it's been ultra competitive jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 27/04/2018 19:38:12 2095361 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "I'd love to see Fenton take of Darragh O'Se Think O'Se would struggle badly this day and age with the role of a midfielder changing a lot this decade.. honestly think Fenton would have way too much pace" Fenton v O'Sé well Fenton would end up in a wheelchair , he wouldn't run far then :-) KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/04/2018 19:55:53 2095363 Link
Replying To jimbodub: "Dublin or Mayo certainly weren't anything special and both Tyrone and Kerry prospered greatly by playing those two quite poor versions of Dublin and Mayo.. certainly compared to both teams now! Any team that put it up to Kerry in the 00's generally beat them.. that pattern continued in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 and 2013... Kerry certainly didn't prosper against the best teams over the past two decades There were a fair few handy AI wins in the 00's compared to the 10's - some completely one sided poor finals where it was obvious a team was well out of its depth That's yet to happen in the 10's - it's been ultra competitive" The Kerry team of the noughties would have ate this Dublin team , fact. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/04/2018 19:59:11 2095365 Link
Yerra yerra yerra sure don't we know that the mighty Kingdom men would beat the pick of Tyrone and Dublin in any era. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 27/04/2018 22:09:09 2095389 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Yerra yerra yerra sure don't we know that the mighty Kingdom men would beat the pick of Tyrone and Dublin in any era." I didn't say we'd beat Tyrone I said we'd beat Dublin, Tyrone beat us fair and square. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/04/2018 22:47:55 2095398 Link