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Would you agree with Conor Gormley that Tyrone would win out this battle. This would have been some game. Tyrone may feel that they left something behind with the squad that they had during the 00's that they did not do the back to back All-Irelands. I would like to think that the best Tyrone of the 00's would beat the best of the dubs in the 10's. What would be your best teams for Tyrone in the 00's and your best team for the Dubs in the 10's? keepherlow (Tyrone) - Posts: 127 - 26/04/2018 16:46:43 2095126 Link
1. pascal mcconnell 2. Ryan mc Menamin 3. Cormac McAnallen 4. Justin McMahon 5. Joe McMahon 6. Conor Gormley 7. Philip Jordan 8. Sean Kavanagh 9. Kevin Hughes 10. Brian Dooher 11. Brian Mcguigan 12. Gerard Cavlan 13. Eoin Mulligan 14. Peter Canavan 15. stephen O'neill keepherlow (Tyrone) - Posts: 127 - 26/04/2018 16:57:54 2095129 Link
1. Stephen cluxton 2. Philly mcMahon 3. Rory O'Carroll 4. Cian O'sullivan 5. Johnny Cooper 6. Ger brennan 7. Jack McCaffrey 8. James McCarthy 9. Brian Fenton/ mdma 10. Ciaran Kilkenny 11. Diarmuid connolly 12. Paul Flynn 13. Dean Rock 14. Paddy andrews/alan brogan 15. bernard Brogan keepherlow (Tyrone) - Posts: 127 - 26/04/2018 17:06:00 2095130 Link
Replying To keepherlow: "Would you agree with Conor Gormley that Tyrone would win out this battle. This would have been some game. Tyrone may feel that they left something behind with the squad that they had during the 00's that they did not do the back to back All-Irelands. I would like to think that the best Tyrone of the 00's would beat the best of the dubs in the 10's. What would be your best teams for Tyrone in the 00's and your best team for the Dubs in the 10's?" This seems like a "what if " thread ,there will be plenty of chat on this one and it reminds me of the days that I used to rally , It's often being told the older you get the faster you were... stoneygrey (Monaghan) - Posts: 213 - 26/04/2018 17:16:11 2095135 Link
Replying To keepherlow: "Would you agree with Conor Gormley that Tyrone would win out this battle. This would have been some game. Tyrone may feel that they left something behind with the squad that they had during the 00's that they did not do the back to back All-Irelands. I would like to think that the best Tyrone of the 00's would beat the best of the dubs in the 10's. What would be your best teams for Tyrone in the 00's and your best team for the Dubs in the 10's?" When i head him say he would love a crack at the Dubs, I actually thought he isn't that long retired i thought he played well into this decade. Hard to know really and its one of those imaginary debates that will never be decided, football and tactics have moved on, the same way it will move on for when Dublin regress and the same debate will exist for the next dominant team who will be compared to Dublin of this decade. Talent is the only permanent and both teams have/had it in abundance, its a great legacy to be the team of note in any era and that is about it. It would be one of those games you wouldn't like to miss. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/04/2018 17:32:05 2095139 Link
Replying To keepherlow: "1. Stephen cluxton 2. Philly mcMahon 3. Rory O'Carroll 4. Cian O'sullivan 5. Johnny Cooper 6. Ger brennan 7. Jack McCaffrey 8. James McCarthy 9. Brian Fenton/ mdma 10. Ciaran Kilkenny 11. Diarmuid connolly 12. Paul Flynn 13. Dean Rock 14. Paddy andrews/alan brogan 15. bernard Brogan" God, that a good question i would find it very difficult to pick the best Dublin team of this decade. I dont think id even attempt it. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/04/2018 17:35:00 2095140 Link
It is one thing to win an All Ireland, celebrate however struggle to win the biggest games the following year. Whilst Tyrone's record over Kerry was immense what was never acknowledged was that Kerry team got to six All Ireland finals in a row. Tyrone went into 2003, beating the previous years finalists (Semi and final), 2005 and 2008 fresh. There is no doubt it was an exceptional Tyrone team who brought 3 All Ireland's to a county who had none beforehand - but they could not get to two finals in a row, ironically even their neighbours Armagh managed it but found out how difficult it was to win back to back. This Dublin team have won 3 in a row, the amount of effort and hunger it takes to come back cannot be underestimated. Maybe if that Tyrone team played the current Dublin team five or six years in a row, Tyrone might have one or two days where they come out on top. However in no way can you compare this Dublin team to that Tyrone team, I actually suspect the Dubs to win five in a row. How can this team who have 3 in 3 be compared to a team who won 3 in 6 without putting two finals in a row?! Yes people might argue football was stronger then but I actually think the current Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal, Kerry teams would have competed comfortably back in the 00's - this current Dublin team are that good they make football look weak. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 26/04/2018 17:35:25 2095141 Link
I have little doubt that Tyrone could have taken them actually. Even at a basic level, if you consider how close Mayo ran Dublin in recent years, well, that Tyrone team were a hell of a lot better than this Mayo team. Furthermore, that Tyrone team had already proven itself against some very good teams, not least a Kerry team that itself could lay claim to being one of the greatest ever. They repeatedly beat the team of Moynihan, the O'Se's, Cooper, etc etc. You don't need to wonder if Tyrone could beat the best, they did it and the proof is there. I have great respect for this Dublin team but I've always thought that they have been given an easy ride somewhat in recent years, that Tyrone team is a huge step up on anything they have had to face since Gavin took the reigns. Steve (Fermanagh) - Posts: 293 - 26/04/2018 18:07:43 2095144 Link
The game is evolving all the time. It has never been as fast and physical so on that you would have to say the current Dublin team would beat that great Tyrone team. A Tyrone man walking out of the final last year actually told me never witnessed a game as intense, tough and fast as he seen between Mayo and Dublin...that's saying something considering the battles Tyrone were in with Kerry and the likes. Very unfair though to compare teams of different eras yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 26/04/2018 18:40:46 2095147 Link
Replying To sam1884: "It is one thing to win an All Ireland, celebrate however struggle to win the biggest games the following year. Whilst Tyrone's record over Kerry was immense what was never acknowledged was that Kerry team got to six All Ireland finals in a row. Tyrone went into 2003, beating the previous years finalists (Semi and final), 2005 and 2008 fresh. There is no doubt it was an exceptional Tyrone team who brought 3 All Ireland's to a county who had none beforehand - but they could not get to two finals in a row, ironically even their neighbours Armagh managed it but found out how difficult it was to win back to back. This Dublin team have won 3 in a row, the amount of effort and hunger it takes to come back cannot be underestimated. Maybe if that Tyrone team played the current Dublin team five or six years in a row, Tyrone might have one or two days where they come out on top. However in no way can you compare this Dublin team to that Tyrone team, I actually suspect the Dubs to win five in a row. How can this team who have 3 in 3 be compared to a team who won 3 in 6 without putting two finals in a row?! Yes people might argue football was stronger then but I actually think the current Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal, Kerry teams would have competed comfortably back in the 00's - this current Dublin team are that good they make football look weak." I'd rate the Kerry mayo team now as good as Tyrone then. But Dublin are just that far ahead they make others look ordinary. Tyrone of 00 would have been on par with mayo now, but would they have beaten dubs of now? I don't think so. Even my own county of 90s would struggle, even with likes of fay Geraghty Giles Kelly. But we will never know. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/04/2018 19:10:13 2095151 Link
Replying To sam1884: "It is one thing to win an All Ireland, celebrate however struggle to win the biggest games the following year. Whilst Tyrone's record over Kerry was immense what was never acknowledged was that Kerry team got to six All Ireland finals in a row. Tyrone went into 2003, beating the previous years finalists (Semi and final), 2005 and 2008 fresh. There is no doubt it was an exceptional Tyrone team who brought 3 All Ireland's to a county who had none beforehand - but they could not get to two finals in a row, ironically even their neighbours Armagh managed it but found out how difficult it was to win back to back. This Dublin team have won 3 in a row, the amount of effort and hunger it takes to come back cannot be underestimated. Maybe if that Tyrone team played the current Dublin team five or six years in a row, Tyrone might have one or two days where they come out on top. However in no way can you compare this Dublin team to that Tyrone team, I actually suspect the Dubs to win five in a row. How can this team who have 3 in 3 be compared to a team who won 3 in 6 without putting two finals in a row?! Yes people might argue football was stronger then but I actually think the current Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal, Kerry teams would have competed comfortably back in the 00's - this current Dublin team are that good they make football look weak." Sam this is our worst Kerry team since the late 80s early 90s and that's a fact, this Kerry team would have been killed by the Kerry team of the naughties. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/04/2018 19:34:16 2095154 Link
If Tyrone played the game in Omagh, had a sympathetic ref in charge and enjoyed the fruits of a large paid backroom team getting them to professional fitness levels, I'd give them every chance ;D TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/04/2018 19:59:26 2095159 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "If Tyrone played the game in Omagh, had a sympathetic ref in charge and enjoyed the fruits of a large paid backroom team getting them to professional fitness levels, I'd give them every chance ;D" Hehehe. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/04/2018 20:20:44 2095164 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "If Tyrone played the game in Omagh, had a sympathetic ref in charge and enjoyed the fruits of a large paid backroom team getting them to professional fitness levels, I'd give them every chance ;D" Hahaha what a hater, just cause we won't bend over for yiz anymore you have to come out with that bs. Two great teams pity will never know. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 26/04/2018 20:20:56 2095165 Link
Two excellent sides. I don't doubt that if they played a number of times there'd be a few wins each and probably a draw or two. Impossible to pick a combined team but could imagine a team with Ricey manning one corner and Philly the other?! MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 26/04/2018 20:24:56 2095168 Link
Replying To keepherlow: "1. Stephen cluxton 2. Philly mcMahon 3. Rory O'Carroll 4. Cian O'sullivan 5. Johnny Cooper 6. Ger brennan 7. Jack McCaffrey 8. James McCarthy 9. Brian Fenton/ mdma 10. Ciaran Kilkenny 11. Diarmuid connolly 12. Paul Flynn 13. Dean Rock 14. Paddy andrews/alan brogan 15. bernard Brogan" Take Ger Brennan outta there. McCarthy to wing back, Fenton and MDMA midfield, O'Sullivan centre back and Cooper in the corner. Hard to argue about the forwards, although in a couple of years Mannion and O'Callaghan would be in there maybe. And obviously Kev Mc as supersub! MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 26/04/2018 20:28:47 2095170 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "If Tyrone played the game in Omagh, had a sympathetic ref in charge and enjoyed the fruits of a large paid backroom team getting them to professional fitness levels, I'd give them every chance ;D" They didn't need to play kerry in Omagh to beat ye. ;D Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 26/04/2018 20:42:21 2095173 Link
To be fair to Tyrone of the 00s though, they had a more challenging run to success then their rivals at the time, Ulster was primarily a football province as oppose€ to hurling, so they were handicap as opposed to others of that era and it was a really strong a Ulster. Proper All Irelands, facing and beating everyone, I think that's why their legacy has endured and are held in regard (strange isn't it after all the scare mongers gets at the time). In comparison Dublin don't have the same obstacles in Leinster these days, I like to think we are rather good though and hopefully we will leave s healthy legacy in our own county at least. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/04/2018 21:01:57 2095175 Link
Tyrone 00's & Dublin 10's >> Now that' would be some Fantasy Gaelic Football team!! link FantasyGAA (Tyrone) - Posts: 16 - 26/04/2018 21:40:28 2095178 Link
Two amazing teams. Very little between the starting 15's man for man when you put it down on paper. Obviously fitness and tactics have advanced a bit since the 00's but if they had like for like preparation it would be some battle, I don't think you could pick one over the other really. Kerry of the 00's will always bear the cross of those defeats to Tyrone but they were also exceptional, and would compare to either IMO. Would not agree that current Mayo team are as good as Tyrone btw, maybe if you put Stephen o'Neill and Peter Canavan in there you could say that. They are a very very good team no question, I just don't think they have the firepower to be remembered as a truly great team. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/04/2018 22:30:48 2095187 Link