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Monaghan v Tyrone - Ulster SFC

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Going for Tyrone myself, the most underrated team in Ireland for my money."
Agreed, way too much being made of the Dublin game last year- a gleeful media have created their own narrative around this Tyrone team on the back of that result.
From a Monaghan point of view, you can't fault our lads' honesty of effort; it fuels the die-hard support with a sort of misplaced tragic hope (Mayo and Deise hurling supporters know the feeling). The quality of panel assembled by MOR is fantastic given resources available but Tyrone don't worry about relatives- absolutes is their business. I really think Tyrone are out to prove something this year and Monaghan may be on the receiving end today, by a lot more than what the papers think too. Anyway, to Omagh, in hope.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 683 - 20/05/2018 10:32:02    2102238

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Agreed, way too much being made of the Dublin game last year- a gleeful media have created their own narrative around this Tyrone team on the back of that result.
From a Monaghan point of view, you can't fault our lads' honesty of effort; it fuels the die-hard support with a sort of misplaced tragic hope (Mayo and Deise hurling supporters know the feeling). The quality of panel assembled by MOR is fantastic given resources available but Tyrone don't worry about relatives- absolutes is their business. I really think Tyrone are out to prove something this year and Monaghan may be on the receiving end today, by a lot more than what the papers think too. Anyway, to Omagh, in hope."
What a pity you are not in exile somewhere there is no internet and we would not have to listen to this negative rubbish. When we win you will probably be the first person looking on to the field to clap the players on the back.

mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 20/05/2018 11:10:34    2102250

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Eddie, you're one of the most negative monaghan posters I've seen around this fixture. I'm not saying we're definitely going to win, but there's no reason to believe we can't go to Tyrone and get a result. Tyrone obviously have the better head to head record, but when you compare the two teams on paper then I dont see much of a difference. This isn't the Tyrone team of 10 years ago, they've dominated Ulster the last couple of years but they wouldn't send fear through your team like those great Tyrone teams of the 00s might. I may be made eat my words by this evening, but it doesn't change the fact that we should be confident in our ability to get a win here.

I also can't believe the call of Tyrone being the most underrated team in the country. For the last few years they've been talked up as the potential team to trouble the Dubs(and we seen how last summer went in that regard) and regularly labeled as being in the top 4 all that time. They're a fine team, don't get me wrong, but I fail to see how they're being underrated.

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 789 - 20/05/2018 11:12:26    2102251

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Very difficult to pick a winner from this game, could we have a draw? I can't see more than a couple of points between the teams at the end. They both play a similar type of game with lots of bodies back, trying to force turnovers and break at speed. It might not be a free flowing scorefest but still think it will be a great game and I am really looking for to seeing the deferred coverage on BBC, shocking this game isn't live.

It is going to be an jnteresting year for Tyrone and it feels like MH is under serious pressure to mount a convincing challenge for the All-Ireland, dont think an Ulster title would be enough for the fans. Lee Brennan is a great addition but they need to get the ball into him early and fast.

One thing about Monaghan is that they are very comfortable in their own skin. They play to a certain system which the players are happy with and believe in and their supporters believe MOR is getting the best out of them. I will give a reluctant nod to Monaghan to come out on top.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1553 - 20/05/2018 11:15:32    2102252

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Replying To patk:  "Eddie, you're one of the most negative monaghan posters I've seen around this fixture. I'm not saying we're definitely going to win, but there's no reason to believe we can't go to Tyrone and get a result. Tyrone obviously have the better head to head record, but when you compare the two teams on paper then I dont see much of a difference. This isn't the Tyrone team of 10 years ago, they've dominated Ulster the last couple of years but they wouldn't send fear through your team like those great Tyrone teams of the 00s might. I may be made eat my words by this evening, but it doesn't change the fact that we should be confident in our ability to get a win here.

I also can't believe the call of Tyrone being the most underrated team in the country. For the last few years they've been talked up as the potential team to trouble the Dubs(and we seen how last summer went in that regard) and regularly labeled as being in the top 4 all that time. They're a fine team, don't get me wrong, but I fail to see how they're being underrated."
Maybe underrated was the wrong word mate, i think their profile and credentials as All Ireland contenders went off a cliff after last year.

They are a better team then the performance in the semi final and the team probably has most of best players in Ireland after Dublin.

Monaghan will give anyone a game and what they do with their resources is incredible, pound for pound they are probably the best team in Ireland, they need to prove they are a team for the big occasion and big games though.

I do however feel there is an All Ireland in that Tyrone panel and think it will be a year of progress for them especially after finding "that forward" potentially in Lee Brennan, what that will mean in terms of winning or getting to an All Ireland final is there to be proven.

I suppose ive heard plenty about Dublin, Mayo, Galway and Kerry as contenders less so about Tyrone, is kind of what i meant.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2814 - 20/05/2018 12:20:52    2102264

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Hopefully a decent game of football, another borefest like C'bar last week & I will lose the will to watch any more Gaelic football. Looking forward to both hurling games, the only excitement left in Gaa.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 809 - 20/05/2018 12:37:16    2102266

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Can't beat championship days!!!! Tyrone have started games very poorly this year, Galway 5 down, Kildare 4 down, Monaghan 4 down all within the first 5-10 mins which can't happen today.
Good luck to all travelling.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 20/05/2018 14:06:45    2102279

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Goalkeepers and kick out strategy could be very important today, think we have the advantage here.
First big test for L Brennan today, no doubt he has the ability, but we have some tight markers too. If we keep 15 on the pitch for the duration I am still very optimistic of a win and indeed for the rest of the season.

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 697 - 20/05/2018 14:29:10    2102287

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Mickey Harte should have walked away 5 years ago. Tyrone have gone back a long way and they drastically need a change of management and direction.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9182 - 20/05/2018 18:13:14    2102330

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I had a feeling it be Monaghan day. Well done.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 15999 - 20/05/2018 18:14:19    2102331

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I think if this Monaghan side can stay injury free they're gonna be a real handful, If they were playing an All-Ireland semi against Galway or Mayo tomorrow I'd fancy them, I think they'd beat Kerry too.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 20/05/2018 18:19:16    2102333

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Well done Monaghan. Great team effort. Can be a match for any team if they keep bringing performances like that.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4191 - 20/05/2018 18:28:55    2102336

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Well done to Monaghan - thought the Tyrone injuries would represent a great chance for maonghan to get one over the red hands. However I do think Mickey Harte is a total liability to the red hands now. He has no Plan B - considering the hammering he took from dubs last year you'd think they'd work on that. Also playing 3 players who were still clearly not match ready shows his decision making it totally flawed. I know some red Hand fans will not like what I'm saying but the truth hurts - if you want to progress you need to get rid - he takes on Oneill in second half and takes him off again - what's that about?

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1084 - 20/05/2018 18:30:19    2102337

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Congratulations to Monaghan, great away result, hands up, got the prediction for this one completely wrong.

Where does this leave Tyrone, Mickey Harte will be under pressure again after this, that nothing new really.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2814 - 20/05/2018 18:48:48    2102347

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A great win for us. Well deserved. Tyrone going badly at the moment. I think Harte needs to step back and take a long look and given what Sean Cavanagh has revealed he needs to let the likes of Stephen o Neill have a bigger role. Statistics today prove this. For monaghan it proves things are going good.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 726 - 20/05/2018 18:59:40    2102351

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Congrats to Monaghan, Better team won on the day.
Not a lot between them. Beggan is absolutely unreal, not only his frees but his kick outs. Monaghan must have won about 65-68% of the kick outs. When Tyrone got a bit of momentum Monaghan came up with a great kick out or point to nudge ahead each time.
Tyrone's big players didn't perform. Colm Cav wasn't fit, McCann taken off, Lee Brenan taken off, Petey Harte poor, same as Sludden. Long long way back for Tyrone.
Monaghan will be favs for Ulster, should be a titanic battle with Donegal if they meet in the final.
Again congrats to Monaghan. Enjoy it.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 20/05/2018 19:04:30    2102353

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Also Tyrone's tackling inside their 45 was poor and rash. Everyone knows Beggan and McManus will nail everything.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 20/05/2018 19:06:18    2102355

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Well done Monaghan. Some of your posters were critical of our win in Castlebar last weekend but ultimately a win is a win and away from home. Always thought ye had a decent side now time to push on. Mickey Harte the Wenger of GAA. Out stayed his welcome by a number of years.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1636 - 20/05/2018 19:09:33    2102356

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Well done Monaghan.

gaelicgab (USA) - Posts: 803 - 20/05/2018 19:11:26    2102358

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After first couple of games, still the most competitive province. And that's about the only positive I can take from today's result. Monaghan never looked like losing after first five mins of second half. Monaghan know how to slow a game down whenever we looked like getting a it of momentum, but sure that's what you had to do. Hungrier team too. Tyrone going nowhere.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 572 - 20/05/2018 19:23:20    2102360

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