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Kilmacud Crokes have been a really big bogey team for Meath clubs . Here are a list of Meath loses to Dublin clubs since 1970, its a poor record compared to our inter county record v the Auld Enemy

2013 St Vincent's defeated Summerhill
2011 St Brigids defeated Summerhill
2008 Kilmacud Crokes defeated Navan O Mahonys
2007 St Vincents defeated Senechalstown
2006 UCD defeated Wolfe Tones
1998 Kilmacud Crokes defeated Dunboyne
1994 kilmacud Crokes defeated Senechalstown
1989 Thomas Davis defeated Navan O Mahonys
1988 Parnells defeated Navan O Mahonys
1983 Walterstown defeated Scoil Ui Conail
1977 Summerhill defeated St Vincent's

As far as I can see our record v the Dubs in leinster club championship is 9 loses 2 wins and 1 draw.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 708 - 31/10/2018 20:06:50    2148932

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Kilmacud Crokes have been a really big bogey team for Meath clubs . Here are a list of Meath loses to Dublin clubs since 1970, its a poor record compared to our inter county record v the Auld Enemy

2013 St Vincent's defeated Summerhill
2011 St Brigids defeated Summerhill
2008 Kilmacud Crokes defeated Navan O Mahonys
2007 St Vincents defeated Senechalstown
2006 UCD defeated Wolfe Tones
1998 Kilmacud Crokes defeated Dunboyne
1994 kilmacud Crokes defeated Senechalstown
1989 Thomas Davis defeated Navan O Mahonys
1988 Parnells defeated Navan O Mahonys
1983 Walterstown defeated Scoil Ui Conail
1977 Summerhill defeated St Vincent's

As far as I can see our record v the Dubs in leinster club championship is 9 loses 2 wins and 1 draw."
2005 crokes beat dunboyne as well

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 151 - 31/10/2018 21:08:05    2148940

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Replying To Aloblack:  "2005 crokes beat dunboyne as well"
Sorry about that I got mixed up with the year. That means 10 loses to Dublin clubs then. With kilmacud Crokes defeating Meath teams 4 times. A real bogey team for us.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 708 - 31/10/2018 21:59:59    2148947

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Kilmacud Crokes have been a really big bogey team for Meath clubs . Here are a list of Meath loses to Dublin clubs since 1970, its a poor record compared to our inter county record v the Auld Enemy

2013 St Vincent's defeated Summerhill
2011 St Brigids defeated Summerhill
2008 Kilmacud Crokes defeated Navan O Mahonys
2007 St Vincents defeated Senechalstown
2006 UCD defeated Wolfe Tones
1998 Kilmacud Crokes defeated Dunboyne
1994 kilmacud Crokes defeated Senechalstown
1989 Thomas Davis defeated Navan O Mahonys
1988 Parnells defeated Navan O Mahonys
1983 Walterstown defeated Scoil Ui Conail
1977 Summerhill defeated St Vincent's

As far as I can see our record v the Dubs in leinster club championship is 9 loses 2 wins and 1 draw."
Crikey that makes depressing reading in fairness

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3381 - 31/10/2018 23:09:37    2148957

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "It would be a huge shock if Dunboyne managed to beat Kilmacud. Dunboyne have the best defense in Meath but they are meeting a different animal in the Kilmacud forwards. Paul Mannion, Pat Burke and the young full forward will take an almighty effort to keep quite. Kilmacuds defense is even better and they have only conceded one goal in championship football this year, and Dunboyne minus Donal Lenihan are not the strongest upfront. Kilmacud looked like a well oiled machine against St Judes where they dictated the pace of the game, keeping the play wide and punching holes when needed."
A pretty fair assessment i would say. Suppose one positive for our lads is the pressure is off and they've nothing really to lose playing crokes because nobody expects us to beat them.

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 151 - 01/11/2018 12:42:07    2149043

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Replying To Aloblack:  "A pretty fair assessment i would say. Suppose one positive for our lads is the pressure is off and they've nothing really to lose playing crokes because nobody expects us to beat them."
I agree with you that the pressure may off from a supporters point of view as they don't expect Dunboyne to beat them but this is the biggest game Dunboyne will have been involved in since 2005 and 1998 when they last played them, as the standard they are coming up against is a huge step up from what they will be used to as a team, so the team will be very conscious of performing to there max and not letting Kilmacud dictate the game. It is a huge opportunity as well to show there worth on a provincial scale that they can compete with the best in Leinster. Some will have the experience of playing inter county football which will be a boost and I think Dunboyne will give Kilmacud a hard battle because of this.They are as fit if not fitter than Kilmacud, however it is the execution of the skills of the game and decision making that will decide this.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 01/11/2018 13:08:39    2149054

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "We have a pretty shocking record v Dublin teams in the leinster club championship. We havent beaten any Dublin club team in leinster club championship in last 20 years with loses to St Vincents , kilmacud Crokes and other Dublin clubs. The only one positive result we have had in the last two decades was when Senechalstown drew with Dublin champions in 2007, but Senechalstown lost the replay.
We have very rarely beaten Dublin senior club champion in leinster, we have only beaten Dublin clubs team twice ever in the history of the leinster club championship as far as I can remeber.

We definatly havent beaten Dublin team in the last 20 years. ( In the 90s there is two years Im not certain and they are Skyrnes two in a row Meath senior club wins in 1993 and 1992. Skyrne might have beaten Dublin opposition in 93, Im not sure about 1993) . But other then that Meath teams didnt beat Dublin opposition in late 80s in leinster.

In 70s and early 80s we had our only two wins over Dublin opposition in leinster club championship. If Skyrne didnt beat Dublin opposition in 1993 leinster club championship. The only two times Meath have beaten Dublin clubs in leinster senior club championship was in 1983 when Walterstown beat Dublin senior club champions Scoil Ui Chonail in leinster. The only other victory v Dublin club , ( is also Meath greatest club victory outside the county in our history eg Summerhill 77. )
In 1977 Summerhill , Meath county champions defeated one of the greatest Dublin club team ever
St Vincents, by 5 goals in a leinster club senior final.

So in summary a Meath club hasnt beaten a Dublin club in leinster club championship in 35 years since Walterstown defeated Dublin champions in 1983. The only other victory was Summerhills victory over St Vincent's in 1977.( The only two years Im not sure are Skyrne in 92 93 campaign. ) . So we can say Wicklow club teams have beaten as many Dublin club teams in leinster senior club championship in the last 20 years, then we have done in our whole history.

Our lack of sucess at club level hasnt really impacted at intercounty. The club championship began in 1970. Meath have never won a club All Ireland senior and only played in one All Ireland club All Ireland final ( 1984) , in the same period Meath senior inter county team have reached 10 All Ireland senior inter county finals ( including replays). However for a morale boost for the county , Meath clubs performing better in leinster would be a benefit, an advantage in the future.

Just another sidenote, Kilmacud Crokes have been a real bogey team for Meath clubs, knocking Meath teams 4 times out of leinster. Twenty years ago when Dunboyne won their first Meath senior title they were knocked out of leinster by 1 point by kilmacud Crokes.

In summary a victory for Dunboyne would be an historic and rare win for Meath football over the auld enemies club champions."
Just to clarify.

A Meath Club has played in 2 All-Ireland Senior finals, Not 1.

Obviously Kilmacud will be a huge challenge for Dunboyne.

Ibbecek (Meath) - Posts: 185 - 01/11/2018 18:39:04    2149148

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "The difference between Meath victories over Dublin teams in leinster club championship and inter county victories over Dublin is massive. As far as I can see
Since 1970 Meath clubs have beaten Dublin clubs twice and had one draw v Dublin teams in leinster senior club championship.
Since 1970 Meath have beaten Dublin 9 times and had 5 draws in leinster senior championship."
Since 1970 there have been two Leinster Senior Club Finals between Meath and Dublin teams. In 1977 and 1994. Compare this to the Inter county Leinster Finals there have been seventeen finals between Meath and Dublin in that same period.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 11927 - 01/11/2018 23:47:45    2149203

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Since 1970 there have been two Leinster Senior Club Finals between Meath and Dublin teams. In 1977 and 1994. Compare this to the Inter county Leinster Finals there have been seventeen finals between Meath and Dublin in that same period."
It's very strange when you look at it like that.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14999 - 02/11/2018 16:23:50    2149287

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Replying To royaldunne:  "It's very strange when you look at it like that."
Royaldunne I see my neighbours the Cilles are looking for a new manager. You should go for it. You would get my vote anyway.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 11927 - 02/11/2018 18:47:58    2149304

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "We have a pretty shocking record v Dublin teams in the leinster club championship. We havent beaten any Dublin club team in leinster club championship in last 20 years with loses to St Vincents , kilmacud Crokes and other Dublin clubs. The only one positive result we have had in the last two decades was when Senechalstown drew with Dublin champions in 2007, but Senechalstown lost the replay.
We have very rarely beaten Dublin senior club champion in leinster, we have only beaten Dublin clubs team twice ever in the history of the leinster club championship as far as I can remeber.

We definatly havent beaten Dublin team in the last 20 years. ( In the 90s there is two years Im not certain and they are Skyrnes two in a row Meath senior club wins in 1993 and 1992. Skyrne might have beaten Dublin opposition in 93, Im not sure about 1993) . But other then that Meath teams didnt beat Dublin opposition in late 80s in leinster.

In 70s and early 80s we had our only two wins over Dublin opposition in leinster club championship. If Skyrne didnt beat Dublin opposition in 1993 leinster club championship. The only two times Meath have beaten Dublin clubs in leinster senior club championship was in 1983 when Walterstown beat Dublin senior club champions Scoil Ui Chonail in leinster. The only other victory v Dublin club , ( is also Meath greatest club victory outside the county in our history eg Summerhill 77. )
In 1977 Summerhill , Meath county champions defeated one of the greatest Dublin club team ever
St Vincents, by 5 goals in a leinster club senior final.

So in summary a Meath club hasnt beaten a Dublin club in leinster club championship in 35 years since Walterstown defeated Dublin champions in 1983. The only other victory was Summerhills victory over St Vincent's in 1977.( The only two years Im not sure are Skyrne in 92 93 campaign. ) . So we can say Wicklow club teams have beaten as many Dublin club teams in leinster senior club championship in the last 20 years, then we have done in our whole history.

Our lack of sucess at club level hasnt really impacted at intercounty. The club championship began in 1970. Meath have never won a club All Ireland senior and only played in one All Ireland club All Ireland final ( 1984) , in the same period Meath senior inter county team have reached 10 All Ireland senior inter county finals ( including replays). However for a morale boost for the county , Meath clubs performing better in leinster would be a benefit, an advantage in the future.

Just another sidenote, Kilmacud Crokes have been a real bogey team for Meath clubs, knocking Meath teams 4 times out of leinster. Twenty years ago when Dunboyne won their first Meath senior title they were knocked out of leinster by 1 point by kilmacud Crokes.

In summary a victory for Dunboyne would be an historic and rare win for Meath football over the auld enemies club champions."
Trim once beat Faughs of Dublin in the Leinster Club Senior Hurling Championship.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 494 - 03/11/2018 15:53:43    2149405

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Replying To OLLIE:  "Since 1970 there have been two Leinster Senior Club Finals between Meath and Dublin teams. In 1977 and 1994. Compare this to the Inter county Leinster Finals there have been seventeen finals between Meath and Dublin in that same period."
Well it seems to be Meath clubs not holding up our end of that deal, Meath clubs have reached the final 6 times, Dublin clubs 31 times.

I wonder do we punch under our weight at club level or over our weight at county. (Or at least, punched above our weight once upon a time)

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1200 - 03/11/2018 16:36:57    2149412

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "Well it seems to be Meath clubs not holding up our end of that deal, Meath clubs have reached the final 6 times, Dublin clubs 31 times.

I wonder do we punch under our weight at club level or over our weight at county. (Or at least, punched above our weight once upon a time)"
Castlebravo I can't comment much on the Meath Club Scene because I don't know much about it but when you look at Sean Boylans Meath teams, I always compare them to Fergies Man Utd teams. Sean Boylan is one the greatest GAA managers ever. Both Fergie and Boylan nearly got the sack in their first couple of seasons. Both teams were never beaten until the final whistle went. I always compare Sean Boylans Meath teams to my first love. Both always broke my heart. To me Boylans greatest achievement was Meath winning the 1996 All Ireland final. Few people would have predicted that. Boylan is also an absolute Gentleman.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 11927 - 04/11/2018 12:01:41    2149485

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That was embarrassing by the Meath champions. I knew they wouldn't win but to put in a performance like that while representing Meath. Shameful stuff for Meath football if the best we can offer.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 443 - 11/11/2018 14:52:55    2150572

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Replying To Maestro:  "That was embarrassing by the Meath champions. I knew they wouldn't win but to put in a performance like that while representing Meath. Shameful stuff for Meath football if the best we can offer."
Its just reality, as i have stated numerous times, our standard is very low across the board

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1152 - 11/11/2018 14:59:08    2150573

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Replying To Analyst:  "Its just reality, as i have stated numerous times, our standard is very low across the board"
Simonstown competed very well last year and were only a kick of a ball away from a Leinster final while playing away from home. We have competed well in intermediate the previous years.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 443 - 11/11/2018 15:20:07    2150581

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Replying To Analyst:  "Its just reality, as i have stated numerous times, our standard is very low across the board"
We won a Leinster Minor championship this year as well as the Gerry Reilly U16 tournament and win the U17 Leinster Championship last year beating Dublin and Kildare amongst others along the way so your analysis is not really accurate, we have struggled by in large in the Leinster Club Championship for many years even when the county team was going well

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3381 - 11/11/2018 15:44:01    2150585

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Replying To Richieq:  "We won a Leinster Minor championship this year as well as the Gerry Reilly U16 tournament and win the U17 Leinster Championship last year beating Dublin and Kildare amongst others along the way so your analysis is not really accurate, we have struggled by in large in the Leinster Club Championship for many years even when the county team was going well"
Our underage is on the up, no doubt. Previous poster says Simonstown went well last year, they beat Wexford champs and then lost to Westmeath team, if that qualifies as going well then that says something. The standard of club football in Meath is very poor. A second string won Junior B and Junior A championship. A Hurling club won intermediate championship and Dunboyne who deserved their Senior win were beaten out the door today. Just reality

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1152 - 11/11/2018 16:35:18    2150592

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Replying To Analyst:  "Our underage is on the up, no doubt. Previous poster says Simonstown went well last year, they beat Wexford champs and then lost to Westmeath team, if that qualifies as going well then that says something. The standard of club football in Meath is very poor. A second string won Junior B and Junior A championship. A Hurling club won intermediate championship and Dunboyne who deserved their Senior win were beaten out the door today. Just reality"
The Westmeath champions threw away a big lead in the final and should have won it so simonstown weren't too far off and were competing against the top teams.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 443 - 11/11/2018 17:03:19    2150605

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From 1987-2001 Meath won 7 Leinsters, 4 All Ireland's and lost 3 AI finals. In that time 1 Meath club team made a Leinster final. Let's not act like this is a new thing. We've always struggled in the Leinster club

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 593 - 11/11/2018 17:27:26    2150609

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