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It may be coming in 2018
Personally I've always felt and said it numerous times that Dublin are only 2-3 players better off compared to our closest rivals.
I think this has been proven given how close all of Dublin's AI wins have been, with some very close semifinal wins in there too.
Now Dublin are looking at a season without McCaffrey, Brogan, a large slice of it with O'Sullivan (he may not be back if his shoulder doesn't play ball) and now it looks likely that Connolly could also now be gone too..
Tell me that's not a huge slice out of Dublin in 2018. We've promising prospects on the way but a few of them are still a couple of seasons away.
IMO no panel can afford to lose such talent and whatever advantage Dublin had in terms of their panel had been greatly reduced now.
The unknown awaits with the Super 8 this year and I've a feeling that a new Champion will be crowned in 2018.
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/03/2018 17:14:13
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Replying To jimbodub: "It may be coming in 2018
Personally I've always felt and said it numerous times that Dublin are only 2-3 players better off compared to our closest rivals.
I think this has been proven given how close all of Dublin's AI wins have been, with some very close semifinal wins in there too.
Now Dublin are looking at a season without McCaffrey, Brogan, a large slice of it with O'Sullivan (he may not be back if his shoulder doesn't play ball) and now it looks likely that Connolly could also now be gone too..
Tell me that's not a huge slice out of Dublin in 2018. We've promising prospects on the way but a few of them are still a couple of seasons away.
IMO no panel can afford to lose such talent and whatever advantage Dublin had in terms of their panel had been greatly reduced now.
The unknown awaits with the Super 8 this year and I've a feeling that a new Champion will be crowned in 2018." Brave. Even with your defections it is yours to lose.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 26/03/2018 18:13:01
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Replying To jimbodub: "It may be coming in 2018
Personally I've always felt and said it numerous times that Dublin are only 2-3 players better off compared to our closest rivals.
I think this has been proven given how close all of Dublin's AI wins have been, with some very close semifinal wins in there too.
Now Dublin are looking at a season without McCaffrey, Brogan, a large slice of it with O'Sullivan (he may not be back if his shoulder doesn't play ball) and now it looks likely that Connolly could also now be gone too..
Tell me that's not a huge slice out of Dublin in 2018. We've promising prospects on the way but a few of them are still a couple of seasons away.
IMO no panel can afford to lose such talent and whatever advantage Dublin had in terms of their panel had been greatly reduced now.
The unknown awaits with the Super 8 this year and I've a feeling that a new Champion will be crowned in 2018." Talking about looking for attention.
Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 26/03/2018 18:24:21
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Replying To jimbodub: "It may be coming in 2018
Personally I've always felt and said it numerous times that Dublin are only 2-3 players better off compared to our closest rivals.
I think this has been proven given how close all of Dublin's AI wins have been, with some very close semifinal wins in there too.
Now Dublin are looking at a season without McCaffrey, Brogan, a large slice of it with O'Sullivan (he may not be back if his shoulder doesn't play ball) and now it looks likely that Connolly could also now be gone too..
Tell me that's not a huge slice out of Dublin in 2018. We've promising prospects on the way but a few of them are still a couple of seasons away.
IMO no panel can afford to lose such talent and whatever advantage Dublin had in terms of their panel had been greatly reduced now.
The unknown awaits with the Super 8 this year and I've a feeling that a new Champion will be crowned in 2018." I thought you meant the end of Dublin's dominance on HS
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 26/03/2018 19:32:38
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Replying To jimbodub: "It may be coming in 2018
Personally I've always felt and said it numerous times that Dublin are only 2-3 players better off compared to our closest rivals.
I think this has been proven given how close all of Dublin's AI wins have been, with some very close semifinal wins in there too.
Now Dublin are looking at a season without McCaffrey, Brogan, a large slice of it with O'Sullivan (he may not be back if his shoulder doesn't play ball) and now it looks likely that Connolly could also now be gone too..
Tell me that's not a huge slice out of Dublin in 2018. We've promising prospects on the way but a few of them are still a couple of seasons away.
IMO no panel can afford to lose such talent and whatever advantage Dublin had in terms of their panel had been greatly reduced now.
The unknown awaits with the Super 8 this year and I've a feeling that a new Champion will be crowned in 2018." Not to worry ye still got Dublin joe unless he gets injured :-)
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/03/2018 19:33:44
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Yerra!!
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/03/2018 19:35:26
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Replying To jimbodub: "It may be coming in 2018
Personally I've always felt and said it numerous times that Dublin are only 2-3 players better off compared to our closest rivals.
I think this has been proven given how close all of Dublin's AI wins have been, with some very close semifinal wins in there too.
Now Dublin are looking at a season without McCaffrey, Brogan, a large slice of it with O'Sullivan (he may not be back if his shoulder doesn't play ball) and now it looks likely that Connolly could also now be gone too..
Tell me that's not a huge slice out of Dublin in 2018. We've promising prospects on the way but a few of them are still a couple of seasons away.
IMO no panel can afford to lose such talent and whatever advantage Dublin had in terms of their panel had been greatly reduced now.
The unknown awaits with the Super 8 this year and I've a feeling that a new Champion will be crowned in 2018." According to reports it won't be us anyway. Can see where you are coming from as, although the young players coming through are good players in their own right they may never be as good as Brogan, Connolly, Flynn etc the likes of whom come along only once in a generation. You are still a fair bit ahead of the posse though and I don't think there is anything out there to beat you at the minute. If Kerrry get their act together they have the players to cause you problems, but not this year!
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 26/03/2018 20:28:19
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Not many fishes biting today Jim....
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 26/03/2018 20:45:52
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"I wish I was a fisherman ... Thumbing on the sea"
We're definitely not as good as we were, so there is a great chance for a good team to take us. Thing is, who is that team or is there one?
Who's it gonna be folks?
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 26/03/2018 21:11:19
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Replying To realdub: ""I wish I was a fisherman ... Thumbing on the sea"
We're definitely not as good as we were, so there is a great chance for a good team to take us. Thing is, who is that team or is there one?
Who's it gonna be folks?" Difficult to know. Implode and all as both Kerry and Mayo did in the league, you'd expect to see different animals in the summer. Although it looks as though Mayo may have their own personnel problems and other than the form of Clifford I don't think Kerry have much to celebrate at present. It will be interesting to see how Galway perform on Sunday in the wide open spaces of CP. For me if they can bring their A game on Sunday and make it work then you'd have to say that they could challenge the Dubs. Even with a weakened team I think we could take Kerry due to our panel depth but if Mayo recover from their abysmal league form and time it right this could be their year. There's a storm brewing from the west I fear, Mayo or Galway could be the heir to the throne. Monaghan played well yesterday but it's a bruising and rocky road out of Ulster.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/03/2018 23:10:29
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is this the same "dominant" team that won the last 2 all irelands by a point and a point after a replay?
kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 27/03/2018 09:51:39
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Replying To kavvie: "is this the same "dominant" team that won the last 2 all irelands by a point and a point after a replay?" Yea the same Dublin team that has won 5 all Ireland's in 7 years, won 4 NFL division 1 titles in 5 years losing the other by a pt. Won the last 7 Leinster football championships. 16 out of a possible 21 trophies won. I would call that dominance.
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 27/03/2018 10:15:55
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i agree totally and they are possibly one of if not the greatest team of all time.but the opening poster said they were maybe only 2 or 3 players better off than their nearest rivals.the point i was trying to make was that in the last few years they maybe are not that far ahead at all. soory for the confusion..
kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 27/03/2018 10:22:43
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This is just the beginning of the Dublin takeover, it could last a while.
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 27/03/2018 10:31:42
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all them kerry minors coming up? i doubt it? and galway arnt too far off it either.
kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 27/03/2018 10:35:41
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Replying To jimbodub: "It may be coming in 2018
Personally I've always felt and said it numerous times that Dublin are only 2-3 players better off compared to our closest rivals.
I think this has been proven given how close all of Dublin's AI wins have been, with some very close semifinal wins in there too.
Now Dublin are looking at a season without McCaffrey, Brogan, a large slice of it with O'Sullivan (he may not be back if his shoulder doesn't play ball) and now it looks likely that Connolly could also now be gone too..
Tell me that's not a huge slice out of Dublin in 2018. We've promising prospects on the way but a few of them are still a couple of seasons away.
IMO no panel can afford to lose such talent and whatever advantage Dublin had in terms of their panel had been greatly reduced now.
The unknown awaits with the Super 8 this year and I've a feeling that a new Champion will be crowned in 2018." Stop with the kerry Yarra talk
Maybe 2020 until then not a hope
joeblogs10 (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 27/03/2018 13:39:50
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Mc caffery will be back for the leinster and cian be back come june I'd say
mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 27/03/2018 14:00:36
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I would agree to an extent. There have been many examples in sport where a dominant team has eventually waned and naturally a successor will emerge. It's cyclical. Some of it is down to tangible factors such as injuries/retirements to key men but there are other intangible things as well such as hunger, motivation etc. Gavin has proved a master at stoking the fire but you just have to imagine (hope!) complacency might creep in at some point.
Dublin are blessed with reinforcements however and they have an aura about them presently which makes it very difficult to see them being toppled. Difficult, but not impossible however.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 27/03/2018 14:07:02
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Op was tongue in cheek presumably but in all seriousness I can't see them being caught in 2018. You could argue that they might be weaker than last year but then again so will some of their main rivals.
Who is actually going to go up to Croker and beat them in a big knockout match:
Mayo, if they lose to Galway can look forward to another rollercoaster through the qualifiers without their best player, would anyone be surprised if they were caught this time? Easily the best hope still though
Kerry are in transition with half a team of debutants, miles away from Dublin for now
Tyrone miles off as well if 2017 semi final is anything to go by
Galway were tremendous in the league and have the Corofin players to come back, maybe but have a lot to prove yet
Monaghan have never really performed outside ulster and the Super 8 or semi final is probably their level
Donegal, team in development a bit like Kerry
If it was 10 years ago and you had strong Kerry / Tyrone / Cork teams to face them maybe you'd worry for Dublin but I just cannot see any of the above toppling them this year when it really matters.
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 27/03/2018 14:41:07
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It's blindingly obvious that Dublin will level off. You had an awe inspiring team in Kilkenny who were much more dominant than Dublin are now. We can see that there comes an end but does the end gradually come or is it off a cliff face. The only difference in the dominating positions is that Dublin may pull 2 to 3 top class players every year from their talent pool and integrate them. But again Kilkenny tried that and were close to pulling it off but once 3 to 4 retire together then it's almost impossible. We can still only speculate on how long the period of rebuilding lasts. We ll see the true test of Gavin then just like we are seeing just how good a manager Cody is now.
PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 27/03/2018 15:21:45
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