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Based on things as they stand now it appears Hurling is the dominant sport in Leinster....perhaps not in geographically but certainly in terms of success.... sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 26/03/2018 12:11:04 2088227 Link 4 |
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To be fair a team outside of Leinster hasnt won a football All Ireland since 2014.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/03/2018 12:39:32 2088245 Link 8 |
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There are surely more realistic winners anyway, that is for sure Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 26/03/2018 14:22:09 2088290 Link 0 |
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Yes an obvious point. I refer to the rest of Leinster. Right now only 3 or 4 players outside of Dublin might be able to stake a claim on a Leinster 15....there is no other Leinster team in Division 1 next year, no one outside of Dublin has won the provincial crown since Meath 8 years ago., etc etc Why has football in Leinster gotten so bad.... sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 26/03/2018 14:38:08 2088307 Link 0 |
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Yea. There are two counties with realistic chances of winning the hurling and only one with a realistic chance of winning the football .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 26/03/2018 14:55:13 2088315 Link 0 |
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When was it not a hurling province? 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 26/03/2018 15:08:42 2088323 Link 2 |
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8 (possibly 9) of the 11 Leinster counties (excluding Kilkenny obviously) will be in Division 3 or 4 of the football league next year. Leinster football has definitely got weaker. PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 26/03/2018 16:39:39 2088365 Link 0 |
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there are at least 4 in hurling if you ask me,although it would be pushing it to say dublin i also think it would be pushing it to say there is a second contender in the football!
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 26/03/2018 16:48:40 2088368 Link 1 |
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But sure if you do the same with Kilkenny in hurling, as you're doing with Dublin in the football, then football is still in a much better place. The last Leinster team to win a hurling AI apart from Kilkenny was Wexford in 1996, 22 years ago (I'd be happy if that statistic changed this year, btw). And are you factoring underage success into this? The last Leinster team outside of Kilkenny to win a minor hurling AI was Offaly back in 1989, 29 years ago. Only one Leinster team outside of Kilkenny has won an U21 hurling AI at all, and that was Wexford back in 1965. And the last time Kilkenny won the U21 AI was in 2008, 10 years ago. For all the underage hurling success Dublin have had at provincial level, it hasn't really translated to national success at minor or U21 level. That being said, Wexford look to be building on what they achieved last year, which is promising. And there is great work been done across the province, Carlow and Westmeath's success in recent years has been fantastic. Cuala have written themselves into hurlings history books as well. So there is immense potential in the province. But if hurling was truly more competitive in general in Leinster, or in the country overall, we wouldn't need FIVE tiers in the hurling championship. Realistically, there's a along way to go before hurling can come even close to football in terms of GENERAL competitiveness and/or popularity. Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 26/03/2018 17:15:25 2088386 Link 8 |
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Marlon is spot on. But the gaa had recoginsed over 15 years ago that in order to grow hurling they had to concentrate on Leinster and the greater Dublin region for development. One couldnt say that this is not working to some extent. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 26/03/2018 19:31:20 2088441 Link 0 |
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Great post, as a wexford man it is great to see wexford at least competitive but a lot of work still to be done here, hard to juggle both codes and be successful. Most clubs in wexford are duel. We need more counties to improve and they need help from the top, laois carlow westmeath kerry not that far off being competitive like wexford really and what about antrim who are forgotten by croke park and then Derry and down, i remember down giving cork a great match in an all ireland semi with ger macgratten getting an all star.. Great hurling people in them counties but they need help!! Not football super 8s tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 26/03/2018 19:56:48 2088453 Link 0 |
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Great post, as a wexford man it is great to see wexford at least competitive but a lot of work still to be done here, hard to juggle both codes and be successful. Most clubs in wexford are duel. We need more counties to improve and they need help from the top, laois carlow westmeath kerry not that far off being competitive like wexford really and what about antrim who are forgotten by croke park and then Derry and down, i remember down giving cork a great match in an all ireland semi with ger macgratten getting an all star.. Great hurling people in them counties but they need help!! Not football super 8s tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 26/03/2018 19:56:57 2088454 Link 0 |
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Leinster didn't have a semifinalist in last year's All Ireland. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 26/03/2018 20:50:57 2088485 Link 0 |
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Galway are not a Leinster team in fairness realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 26/03/2018 21:15:04 2088494 Link 1 |
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While I don't think Wex will be AI Champs - I consider them contenders and good value at that price (could be in AI SFs) - I'd make them 10-1 for title behind Gal, Tipp, KK and in the hunt with Clare, Lime, Water - unfortunately, I leave my Cork off the list ):
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2605 - 26/03/2018 23:20:44 2088549 Link 1 |
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I think Wexford will beat Kilkenny next weekend to reach the league final. That would surely shorten their odds for championship. They have more strength in-depth than last year & they don't fear any team anymore. I expect them to make an All-Ireland semifinal. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 27/03/2018 00:06:19 2088556 Link 0 |
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At least four ? That is seriously stretching it. The bottom line in Leinster hurling is Kilkenny and Galway . All that has been achieved in Wexford has been achieved in Wexford Park . That won't happen in championship . As for Dublin ..... spare me ....
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 27/03/2018 03:47:18 2088569 Link 0 |
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Wexford have no chance of winning an All Ireland .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 27/03/2018 04:31:55 2088571 Link 1 |
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haha,well just in case you didnt realise,dublin have played the entire league without at least 5-6 starters from cuala.....maybe re-read my post there,i said it would be pushing it.....not sure what part of that you didnt understand. but the original poster is right,leinster is a hurling province and as an equal opportunities supporter of the big ball,i take no privilege in saying that. all wexfords success has been in wexford park,except of course beating galway in galway,kilkenny in kilkenny last year,waterford in waterford this year. its better than louths success anywhere!go get your own ship in order. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 27/03/2018 08:45:38 2088587 Link 1 |
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Just like ireland gave no chance of winning world cup but wexford will turn up and be competitive this year. They may not win an all ireland but will take a serious scalp! No wonder there is little hurling in Louth with your attitude, sure we should of just given the liam McCarthy to kk every year and just give the Sam to dublin and not bother. Would really suit the clubs. tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 27/03/2018 08:47:10 2088588 Link 0 |