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Replying To Onfor15:  "It's based on: IF you view the current Dublin team as the best team of all time then surely a team who, in the last 3 years, has drawn with them twice and only lost by a point twice is surely the second best of all time."
Odd logic. The Kerry 4 in a row team would come into the discussion regarding the best team of all time. The current Mayo team wouldn't get a mention if talking about the 2nd, 3rd,4th or even 5th team of all time. Would come into the reckoning as "the best Mayo team of all time" though I'd expect that accolade would belong to their 1950/51 team

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1071 - 26/02/2018 13:53:47    2080499

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Odd logic. The Kerry 4 in a row team would come into the discussion regarding the best team of all time. The current Mayo team wouldn't get a mention if talking about the 2nd, 3rd,4th or even 5th team of all time. Would come into the reckoning as "the best Mayo team of all time" though I'd expect that accolade would belong to their 1950/51 team"
Of course that is more logical argument but don't think this lad gets it.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 603 - 26/02/2018 14:38:28    2080535

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Ulsterman (Antrim) - You are correct. Our main media has a lot to answer for in that regard and some of them have long since forgot that there are 32 counties in Ireland (tv and paper).

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1871 - 26/02/2018 14:49:53    2080543

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Mayo fall into the best team never to win an all ireland discussion but that would be the height of it

tipp11 (Tipperary) - Posts: 306 - 26/02/2018 14:49:53    2080544

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1. Football is a better game than hurling
2. I really enjoy Ulster football, the physicality and verbals that go with it.
3. Dublin are a brilliant team but I'm not convinced the greatest ever. Leinster is embarrassingly uncompetitive and the current mayo and Kerry teams who are dublins only real competition aren't as strong as the kerry, Tyrone teams of the noughties

Meathmaverick (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 26/02/2018 14:51:39    2080546

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "My unpopular views:
1. College and Schools GAA competitions should be scrapped. There is no need for them

2. All underage hurling and football should have unlimited substitutions

3. Ciaran Kilkenny is one of the most overrated footballers ever. Spends most of his time slowing his own team down, passing backwards and pointing for no reason.

4. If this current Dublin team are the best team of all time then the current Mayo team must be the second best of all time.

5. Joe Canning should not have won hurler of the year in 2017 and Austin Gleeson should not have won it in 2016

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 43 - 26/02/2018 10:14:30
Why is there no need for College and Schools competitions?
What benefit does unlimited subs have?

1) What Johnny Maher did in the 2013 County Final wasn't that bad.
Bring back the olden days where sh*te talk and a yappy mouth was met with a thump. If he's looking for it, by god give him one that'll sicken him for a month.
2) In certain situations players should be allowed to impose their own rules on the game.
If your being pulled and dragged there is only one way to sort it out with a wallop. Referees should turn a blind eye to this off the ball law enforcement. Referee the game e.g. things involving the ball.
3) Blanket Defensive are the best thing to ever happen to football.
Allows so many more teams to compete. Opens up opportunities for players to get a shot who may not be gifted footballers but good athletes. Tactical element makes the game much more interesting.
TheFullBack (Galway) - Posts: 101 - 26/02/2018 10:48:35
In no situations should players be allowed impose their own rules on the game.
If you allow players impose their own rules you just end up with people being given free reign to take each other out and that doesnt help anyone.
In no way should refs forget about off the ball law enforcement."
No need for college and schools competitions because they are based on the English model of school sports where playing with your school was where you played sport and the local club didn't come into it until you left school.

At second level they disrupt school, and they just add to the already crowded fixtures schedule of young lads on club teams, and intercounty develop squads. Again perhaps I may agree with them while clubs are in off season but from this time of the year onwards they only get in the way of club fixtures.

At college level they just get in the way, unless started in October and finished by December. Only then would I reckon they are worthwhile.

In relation to unlimited sub's at underage level, it is a measure to encourage clubs to play everyone in matches. Nothing more disheartening for a chap of 12 years of age training for months and not get a chance at getting out and playing a game. If you have 23 under 15's going to a game and can only use 5/6 sub's then you have at least 2 lads going home having got no game, through no ones fault. That's how clubs lose players. Unlimited sub's gives more opportunities for young people to play.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 26/02/2018 15:12:41    2080562

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Odd logic. The Kerry 4 in a row team would come into the discussion regarding the best team of all time. The current Mayo team wouldn't get a mention if talking about the 2nd, 3rd,4th or even 5th team of all time. Would come into the reckoning as "the best Mayo team of all time" though I'd expect that accolade would belong to their 1950/51 team"
I reckon the 1996 team was better than the current team. But it was just in that year, Current team has maintained a high level for 7 years now but not gone all the way. They reckon the Cork team at the height of Kerry's peak in 70s and 80s was the 2nd best in Ireland at that time. I've heard they said the Mayo team at the time of Galway 3-in-a-row was also the second best team in the country at that time. We're not the second best team ever but until we win another we'll unfortunately be known as the best team at finishing second.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 4764 - 26/02/2018 15:20:21    2080568

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Replying To Meathmaverick:  "1. Football is a better game than hurling
2. I really enjoy Ulster football, the physicality and verbals that go with it.
3. Dublin are a brilliant team but I'm not convinced the greatest ever. Leinster is embarrassingly uncompetitive and the current mayo and Kerry teams who are dublins only real competition aren't as strong as the kerry, Tyrone teams of the noughties"
Your first point about football being better than hurling?? How is that unpopular? That appears to be the general consensus right across Hoganstand.

How about this for an unpopular opinion? .
football can't compare in any way to hurling as it is a a rule an utterly tedious sport.
A ponderous boring shite spectacle apart from when Dublin play when the speed, skill and craft of the present team make it watchable. :)

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 418 - 26/02/2018 15:49:26    2080582

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Replying To skillet:  "Your first point about football being better than hurling?? How is that unpopular? That appears to be the general consensus right across Hoganstand.

How about this for an unpopular opinion? .
football can't compare in any way to hurling as it is a a rule an utterly tedious sport.
A ponderous boring shite spectacle apart from when Dublin play when the speed, skill and craft of the present team make it watchable. :)"
In my experiences even here in Meath people seem to be ashamed to say they prefer football to hurling
The generic line is "I don't play it myself but hurling is the best and most skilful game"
That would make my view that football is a better game with more to it unpopular.
After picking hurling at a late age abeit at a low level I find the basic skills easier to pick up ( if in doubt drive it ) ( if the ball is there just pull) .
Again there's my views and they seem to be unpopular to you but there we are.

Meathmaverick (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 26/02/2018 16:46:26    2080635

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No need for college and schools competitions because they are based on the English model of school sports where playing with your school was where you played sport and the local club didn't come into it until you left school.

At second level they disrupt school, and they just add to the already crowded fixtures schedule of young lads on club teams, and intercounty develop squads. Again perhaps I may agree with them while clubs are in off season but from this time of the year onwards they only get in the way of club fixtures.

At college level they just get in the way, unless started in October and finished by December. Only then would I reckon they are worthwhile.

In relation to unlimited sub's at underage level, it is a measure to encourage clubs to play everyone in matches. Nothing more disheartening for a chap of 12 years of age training for months and not get a chance at getting out and playing a game. If you have 23 under 15's going to a game and can only use 5/6 sub's then you have at least 2 lads going home having got no game, through no ones fault. That's how clubs lose players. Unlimited sub's gives more opportunities for young people to play.
Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 48 - 26/02/2018 15:12:41
You will notice that in many other countries school sport is key. Look at the united states. You dont need to stop school gaa and these games dont necessarily disrupt school time. Kids on club teams/inter county squads should have time limited by training and playing schools games isnt a cause for burnout.
Same with college level.
You dont need to have unlimited subs at underage level to encourage teams to play kids more.
If you have a large squad you need to find more games to play kids not have unlimited subs because that just helps bigger clubs against smaller clubs which is of no benefit to anyone

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 26/02/2018 17:06:12    2080641

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The sliotar in hurling is now too light and should be made heavier.
Goalies taking long range frees should be banned. It slows down the game and if people wanted to see a long puck competition then the Cooley mountains would see 50,000 people descend on it in August.
Also a new rule that no team can will a game without scoring a goal should be brought it.

SmellyBadger (Limerick) - Posts: 29 - 26/02/2018 18:37:14    2080687

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In the words of the great Clint Eastwood...Opinions are like A holes....everyone's got one.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 9292 - 26/02/2018 19:19:28    2080702

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One more unpopular opinion

The compromise rules game is far better than Gaelic football:
1. It encourages kicking of the ball
2. It encourages very quick movement of the ball
3. The tackle is clearly defined
4. More scores

It basically addresses every problem that Gaelic football has

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 26/02/2018 21:32:50    2080755

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1. Every All Ireland winning team needs a couple of very dirty players to prevail.. Dara OSe, Paul Galvin, Jonny Cooper, Ryan McMenamin, Henry Downey, Graham Geraghty. The exception to this rule were Donegal
2. Shane Ryan and Conal Keaney switched to hurling because they hadnt the skillset for Dublin football.
3. Neutrals dont really like Mayo, watching them lose is very entertaining
3. Cork were more succesful when Frank Murphy was around.
4. Meath are ultimately to blame for so called puke football. Their hatchet job in 1996 created the Tyrone monster.
5. That said, the stats show that Tyrone are actually one of the most attack minded teams going.
6. Football in the 70s was muck compared to the current quality
7. Ulster is the easiest province to win in football.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 591 - 26/02/2018 21:46:15    2080758

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Replying To Onfor15:  "One more unpopular opinion

The compromise rules game is far better than Gaelic football:
1. It encourages kicking of the ball
2. It encourages very quick movement of the ball
3. The tackle is clearly defined
4. More scores

It basically addresses every problem that Gaelic football has"
You forgot the egg-shaped ball, that round ones a b*stard.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6977 - 26/02/2018 22:09:45    2080768

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Replying To realdub:  "You forgot the egg-shaped ball, that round ones a b*stard."
I said compromise rules not Aussie rules

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 26/02/2018 22:32:17    2080775

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Offaly is one of the true great GAA counties tiny playing base, with one half playing Football and the other hurling and have won All Irelands in both codes, a fact that is never acknowledged fully

grellans89 (Galway) - Posts: 245 - 26/02/2018 22:51:41    2080784

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3. Cork were more succesful when Frank Murphy was around.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 508 - 26/02/2018 21:46:15 2080758


Nonsense. Literally.

He is still in charge in Cork.

He has presided over the massive decline of Cork GAA.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12013 - 26/02/2018 22:55:04    2080785

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Galway were robbed in 1983 by the assault in the tunnel , and thuggery on the pitch. Galway were robbed in 1989 hurling by the Gaa in general over the keady affair. Mayo dont deserve Sam because they are not good enough and the wait could go on for another 50 years...
I feel great now !!

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1453 - 26/02/2018 22:56:55    2080787

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Pat Fleury and the aul " fear mór láidir " comment or Cyril Farrell's " lovely wrists hurler ".
I usually have to be sedated at the mention of either of these as otherwise I'll knock myself out from over cringing.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 1788 - 27/02/2018 08:42:23    2080834

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