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Replying To tommy132:  "Christ 3months, maybe in Wexford football you could.."
True, standard is still a little better than Mayo hurling though.

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 450 - 04/03/2018 16:29:52    2081817

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The GAA really need to tackle the problem of "time wasting" and "niggling" that affects the last 10 minutes of matches especially. How to do this? Start adding on up to 10-15 minutes if time wasting is really bad. Or else start deducting scores from teams who get booked in the last 5 minutes for time wasting??

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1271 - 04/03/2018 20:06:57    2081844

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "The 'greatness', or not, of this/these current Dublin team(s) will NEVER really be known as overall this is a very, very mediocre football era. Furthermore it's NOT a level playing field and they haven't been tested by another side with the same resources put in by Croke Park."
Amongst their own supporters & the good people of our capital city, this team is, and always will be remembered as a truly great team and that is all that matters.

DannyMcA (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 04/03/2018 20:25:07    2081847

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Replying To DannyMcA:  "Amongst their own supporters & the good people of our capital city, this team is, and always will be remembered as a truly great team and that is all that matters."
You remind me of my mother in law when she wants to end a discussion!

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 870 - 04/03/2018 22:25:05    2081864

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1.) Meath underachieved between 04-10, we still had some very good players like Giles, Geratghy, Fay, Crawford as well as new players like Sheridan and McKeigue.

2.) Darren Fay is the best fullback of all time

3) Philly McMahon is the best corner back in the country at the minute

4.) Jim Gavin, Ciaran Kilkenny and James McCarty are all overrated

5.) Brian Fenton has been the best midfielder in the last 10 years

6.) Club, College/School, County should be prioritised in that order

7.) CPA should be recognised by the GAA and have a much larger say.

8.) Laois is our bogey team.

9.) Joe Brolly speaks a lot of truth

10.) Louth deserved to win Leinster in 2010.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 82 - 04/03/2018 22:33:29    2081866

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "And therein lies a tale. Talk on here of Aido playing well for fifty or sixty minutes in the final and then fading away. He holds his own and then some, against arguably some of the greatest players we have seen and then as he's getting tired the Dubs bring on Connolly, McCauley, Brogan etc to drive them home. In the meantime we bring on... well not quite Connolly and Brogan. Comparing him to McCarthy is a little pointless as they are different types of player. Last year without Aido we wouldn't have gotten beyond the first qualifier,we wouldn't have beaten Kerry in the semi and we wouldn't have been within five or six points of the Dubs in the final. McCarthy has a job to do and he does it well but O Shea is expected to do several jobs at the one time and playing against the Dubs it must be like trying to keep the tide from coming in armed only with a bucket. McCarthy is a good player, and any team would be lucky to have him, but personally I wouldn't swop him for O Shea."
Agree totally. If you had to start and finish a game with the same 15 would Mayo have beaten Dublin in one of the last finals? I suspect so. And it's also a reason why Mayo deserve as many if not more All Stars than Dublin - there are more Mayo men who expended greater effort than Dublin men in the last two seasons. Dublins efforts and their magnificent brilliant and outstanding achievements have been spread over a larger number of players compared to Mayo. It's not AOS's fault that Mayo can't call in subs of equal calibrate to Colm Boyle, Keith Higgins, Andy Moran etc. That's just the way it is. It was the same with Kilkenny when at their preak for a number of years and indeed I remember Cork in the early 90s who could have fielded two inter county teams such was the sheer depth of quality they had, and unlike Dublin made poor use of it. AOS is a superb player and I'd think long and hard if I had to choose between him and the equally superb James McCarthy.

DonegalAtlantic (Donegal) - Posts: 47 - 04/03/2018 22:48:19    2081872

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League and championship should be swapped around. Play early rounds of championship in spring with provincial finals holding a slot in mid summer and All irelands played in September as usual.
Play league games in late spring/ summer with a designated league final weekend on August bank holiday. this way we have well matched teams coming against each other at the top of summer and also maintaining the tradition of the championship finals throughout the summer.

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 272 - 05/03/2018 09:48:50    2081885

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Gaa to turn semi professional or cut competitions. Too much commitment for amatuer sport

.tribute (Cavan) - Posts: 332 - 05/03/2018 10:12:31    2081890

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Change the hurling ball to prevent lads lobbing points over from 100 yards.

Make the core denser and less responsive as the game now bypasses too much field with lads now scoring regularly from well inside their own half.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2203 - 05/03/2018 15:21:02    2081951

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For Div 1 and 2 teams compete in the All Ireland and 3 and 4 to compete in another, we will call it the National Championship for them to make it sound better

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 217 - 05/03/2018 15:56:19    2081960

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "1.) Meath underachieved between 04-10, we still had some very good players like Giles, Geratghy, Fay, Crawford as well as new players like Sheridan and McKeigue.

2.) Darren Fay is the best fullback of all time

3) Philly McMahon is the best corner back in the country at the minute

4.) Jim Gavin, Ciaran Kilkenny and James McCarty are all overrated

5.) Brian Fenton has been the best midfielder in the last 10 years

6.) Club, College/School, County should be prioritised in that order

7.) CPA should be recognised by the GAA and have a much larger say.

8.) Laois is our bogey team.

9.) Joe Brolly speaks a lot of truth

10.) Louth deserved to win Leinster in 2010."
1. Yes and continue to underachieve
2. I don't know. I think Gerry McCarville is.
3. No, Philly McMahon is on the slide and won't be on first 15 this time next year.
4. Gavin is overrated. A giraffe could manage that Dublin team. His selections in last years All ireland were someone trying to prove that he's good. It called Bantyism. Believe me, I know. Kilkenny didn't help himself with the pointing and the 55 sideways passes per game. However I did meet him at a medal presentation and he's as sound as a bell. McCarthy is only overrated because he got in the frame for Player of the Year based on one great 35 minutes. Not his fault.
5. Yes
6. Never going to happen.
7. CPA needs to take the nuclear option if they want the GAA to take them seriously like the GPA did in the early noughties before it got its belly tickled. Next 6 months will see if the CPA has a future. At the moment it seems to be focusing on having good ideas that are being ignored.
8. Laois shouldn't be anyones bogey team. I'm delighted to say that ours in Dublin!
9. He does but about a very small set of issues. Sky Deal, Amateurism, Slaughtneil, Sky Deal.........
10. Maybe but what people forget is that Sludden gave Louth everything that day until the last minute. Meath should have given them a replay which Meath would have won because they are a far superior side.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 239 - 05/03/2018 16:38:35    2081972

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Gavin is overrated me hoop

He had a load of these lads at U21 and was involved in winning 3 AI's at that level

He brought a huge attacking flare to his first year breakout by all trends and won it all in his first year. Bringing in a bunch of the same U21's - League, Leinster, Sam

He was badly caught out in 2014 but he learned from it. He didn't let his ego dictate and remain stubborn to one fixed style of play. He recognised his error and transformed the team to adapt.

He learned his lesson. He has demolished the blanket defence. No other team plays like Dublin. He brought Dublin on the greatest run of unbeaten games in GAA history and his handling of the squad last year brought a 3 in a row in the modern era where it's almost impossible now to even win back to back.

His man management and patience allowed the likes of O'Callaghan and Fenton to flourish and it continues with Basquel/Howard/Scully etc

Anyone that thinks he's overrated is taking gombeenism to a new realm

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18574 - 05/03/2018 17:29:33    2081987

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Gavin is overrated me hoop

He had a load of these lads at U21 and was involved in winning 3 AI's at that level

He brought a huge attacking flare to his first year breakout by all trends and won it all in his first year. Bringing in a bunch of the same U21's - League, Leinster, Sam

He was badly caught out in 2014 but he learned from it. He didn't let his ego dictate and remain stubborn to one fixed style of play. He recognised his error and transformed the team to adapt.

He learned his lesson. He has demolished the blanket defence. No other team plays like Dublin. He brought Dublin on the greatest run of unbeaten games in GAA history and his handling of the squad last year brought a 3 in a row in the modern era where it's almost impossible now to even win back to back.

His man management and patience allowed the likes of O'Callaghan and Fenton to flourish and it continues with Basquel/Howard/Scully etc

Anyone that thinks he's overrated is taking gombeenism to a new realm"
The point of the thread was to confess unpopular opinions ... Clearly that's one of footblocks and a few others, I don't agree either but hey ho if he believes it good look to him

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 12949 - 05/03/2018 18:02:48    2081997

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6.) Club, College/School, County should be prioritised in that order

7.) CPA should be recognised by the GAA and have a much larger say.

8.) Laois is our bogey team.

9.) Joe Brolly speaks a lot of truth

10.) Louth deserved to win Leinster in 2010.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 69 - 04/03/2018 22:33:29
How exactly do you prioritise club then school/college then county in that order?
When you say CPA have larger say what do you want them to be able to do?


League and championship should be swapped around. Play early rounds of championship in spring with provincial finals holding a slot in mid summer and All irelands played in September as usual.
Play league games in late spring/ summer with a designated league final weekend on August bank holiday. this way we have well matched teams coming against each other at the top of summer and also maintaining the tradition of the championship finals throughout the summer.
theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 185 - 05/03/2018 09:48:50
League and championship shouldnt be swapped around but interchangeable within the season like most other sports. Expand the league in gaelic with more games but have the provincial championships played inbetween rounds in the league and also have an all ireland cup championship(or with a group stage) also played in between regular league rounds.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/03/2018 19:03:57    2082016

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1. Jim Gavin is over rated.

2. The Dublin footballers are an average side who's manager has dragged them to 3 all Ireland's in a row.


Only one of the above is true.
Which is it Dublin lads?? ;)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3115 - 05/03/2018 19:05:10    2082017

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Replying To waynoI:  "The point of the thread was to confess unpopular opinions ... Clearly that's one of footblocks and a few others, I don't agree either but hey ho if he believes it good look to him"
True enough

But sure there's having an unpopular opinion and then there's just being jaw droppingly daft!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18574 - 05/03/2018 19:08:40    2082019

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Replying To waynoI:  "The point of the thread was to confess unpopular opinions ... Clearly that's one of footblocks and a few others, I don't agree either but hey ho if he believes it good look to him"
To say nothing about his man management skills,which are second to none , huge squad of course there are disappointed players, but as Wayno1 says the topic is to express your unpopular decision so poster has fairly nailed it I'd say

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5064 - 05/03/2018 20:01:03    2082031

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Replying To FootblockREF:  "1. Yes and continue to underachieve
2. I don't know. I think Gerry McCarville is.
3. No, Philly McMahon is on the slide and won't be on first 15 this time next year.
4. Gavin is overrated. A giraffe could manage that Dublin team. His selections in last years All ireland were someone trying to prove that he's good. It called Bantyism. Believe me, I know. Kilkenny didn't help himself with the pointing and the 55 sideways passes per game. However I did meet him at a medal presentation and he's as sound as a bell. McCarthy is only overrated because he got in the frame for Player of the Year based on one great 35 minutes. Not his fault.
5. Yes
6. Never going to happen.
7. CPA needs to take the nuclear option if they want the GAA to take them seriously like the GPA did in the early noughties before it got its belly tickled. Next 6 months will see if the CPA has a future. At the moment it seems to be focusing on having good ideas that are being ignored.
8. Laois shouldn't be anyones bogey team. I'm delighted to say that ours in Dublin!
9. He does but about a very small set of issues. Sky Deal, Amateurism, Slaughtneil, Sky Deal.........
10. Maybe but what people forget is that Sludden gave Louth everything that day until the last minute. Meath should have given them a replay which Meath would have won because they are a far superior side."
The Giraffe Athletic Association probably won't get too far.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 4764 - 05/03/2018 21:17:28    2082055

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Replying To cavanman47:  "1. Jim Gavin is over rated.

2. The Dublin footballers are an average side who's manager has dragged them to 3 all Ireland's in a row.


Only one of the above is true.
Which is it Dublin lads?? ;)"
Yeah if only we were from Cavan

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18574 - 05/03/2018 21:27:14    2082057

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Replying To Damothedub:  "To say nothing about his man management skills,which are second to none , huge squad of course there are disappointed players, but as Wayno1 says the topic is to express your unpopular decision so poster has fairly nailed it I'd say"
I mentioned that :)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 18574 - 05/03/2018 21:28:26    2082058

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