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Mayo V Dublin

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Yeah Mayo should have been willing to run through a brick wall to beat Dublin tonight and not just the young players, all of them.

I don't by the league doesn't matter argument that can be bandied about. The last two times Tipp won the All-Ireland, they beat Kilkenny who were the reigning champs in the league and follow it up again in September.

Dublin seem to have a big psychological edge over Mayo now. Kerry may not have met Dublin in the championship last year but they made sure to beat them in the league final.

Sorry for the rant, but ffs, why do Mayo let Dublin come down to Castlebar and run amok."
As David Brady said on the radio on Friday night, Mayo don't have the depth of panel to be able to peak twice in the same year. They have a lot of mileage on the clock, they are not really unearthing top quality new talent, so they have to pick their battles -- and to raise it for a league game that will be forgotten about in another month, would be a bad use of resources. To quote him directly "we only bring the Ferrari out in the summer". Given that they have an ageing squad, they have little choice about it. It means this year they could get relegated --- which most definitely won't be in the plan of course -- but for this team at this stage of its development, the only game that matters is 13th May vs Galway in Castlebar. Get past that, and their summer will be set up, even though it is still unlikely to deliver Sam.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 25/02/2018 08:58:39    2079907

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Happy to be leaving with the points and kerry next week will be a test but hopefully we'll prevail.Another league final beckons.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 25/02/2018 09:08:57    2079909

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Mixed feelings about last night. Before hand I was thinking of we get beat by less than 5 it would be a decent night but on the other hand....MacHale Park is our F&€@ing home....we just met Dublin walk in and go through the motions....it's not acceptable.

I know our training is disjointed this time of year but if your a fringe Mayo player you should be busting a gut to lay a claim. It's clear outside our best staring 15 there are not many options....probably the reason we haven't and will not win sam. Worrying times ahead.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 25/02/2018 09:33:03    2079913

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First half was very enjoyable with some good football, it looks like Dublin decided at half time we have enough done here and decided to shut the game down. Dublin penchant for standing in front of the free taker will need to be cut caused at least 2 dodgy frees moved up into tap overs. Hopefully mannion hamstring is not too bad.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 25/02/2018 10:15:38    2079919

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why does Rochford keep putting on subs with minutes and at times seconds to go in a game, it makes no sense to me. Dublin started making changes early in the game and had used up their subs with 15 minutes to go

culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 25/02/2018 10:16:52    2079920

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Mayo nowhere near their true potential and championship peak. On form Dublin will be favourites but there's a fair bit to work on from the Donegal performance.

Mayo were beaten well by a young Kerry outfit and well imo were sort of man handled on their own turf. They'll be aiming for a performance but if I'm correct C'OC will be missing the game through suspension and that of course plays into Dublin's hands. In fairness to C'OC he really gives it his all against Dublin and his contributions results in scores.

He'll be missed.

Dubs are going for 3 in a row away wins against this Mayo side so there's plenty of pride on the table for Mayo and a big plus for Dublin. 2 points here would really set them up for a final appearance.

As always it should be entertaining. Hopefully might see some game time for Connolly and fingers crossed a few of the younger lads to continue their good form.

Dubs by 3+"
Well I wasn't far off

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 25/02/2018 11:02:33    2079932

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MacHale Park is not a fortress, Mayo have won 12 out if the last 26 games there, maybe it's time to move around the county with matches like in the past, Donegal are still doing it so why not Mayo. Local radio was saying the main players have yet to play in the League, my argument is it's the same players year in year out, no new players coming through, we have plenty of footballers in the county but nobody putting their hands up demanding a place, seem hell bent on bringing through the minor and U21 players who aren't making any shape, they were on the bench for the past 2 years and when they get a game they aren't doing anything. I think Mayo have only won 2 games in the last 9 games, that's the All Ireland Final, FBD League and 4 rounds of the National Football League, not good going with 3 round of the League left and needing at least 2 wins

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 25/02/2018 14:09:10    2079985

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "As David Brady said on the radio on Friday night, Mayo don't have the depth of panel to be able to peak twice in the same year. They have a lot of mileage on the clock, they are not really unearthing top quality new talent, so they have to pick their battles -- and to raise it for a league game that will be forgotten about in another month, would be a bad use of resources. To quote him directly "we only bring the Ferrari out in the summer". Given that they have an ageing squad, they have little choice about it. It means this year they could get relegated --- which most definitely won't be in the plan of course -- but for this team at this stage of its development, the only game that matters is 13th May vs Galway in Castlebar. Get past that, and their summer will be set up, even though it is still unlikely to deliver Sam."
Brady is right and the reason he is right because good young players like Coen, Loftus and Durcan haven't got enough game time.

Rochford is extremely conservative, especially with his championship teams. It's the young lads like O'Callaghan who are keeping the Dublin juggernaut moving forward with the likes of MDNA, Flynn, Brogan, McMenamin to come on to finish re game. If Rochford was managing Dublin they'd still be starting.

The nucleus of the Dublin team is made up of the 2011 beaten minor finalists. Mayo won minor in 2013 and backed it up at under 21 level in 2016 and these lads are left warming the bench. That's why Mayo have an aging team.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 25/02/2018 16:05:20    2080020

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Anybody see big Aido's late high flying knee tackle on jamsey and only got a yellow, i can't see Dublin beat these enough and keegan back to his dragging best, young lads coming through aren't good enough, this mayo team have missed the bus in the last few year's, great Craic before and after with the locals

mightydubs (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 25/02/2018 17:15:12    2080078

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had to laugh at commentator Billy Joe, had Keegan on his shortlist for man of the match, he was good in the first 5 minutes alright. Mayo should have won the game except for those misses.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 25/02/2018 17:24:39    2080089

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Just back from Castlebar great weekend down there, great hosts out Mayo way and some great craic with passionate football people. A crowd of 15k + speaks for itself. Thanks for all the craic and Supermacs.

The game itself was a bit of a non event, Dublin took control early and really it was over in the first half, pretty much shut the game down and practiced their game management for the rest of game. Dublin looked ready for the coach after 60 mins and Mayo hit some wayward efforts, most of their points game from frees, the red worked hard to make it make spectacle in my opinion. Pluses for Dublin are the progression of the young players and development of their game management, which for me seems totally to be a priority for Gavin in this league.

Wont be making the mistake of writing of Mayo and will once again have a say in the summer, the league isn't a priority for them in the lifecycle of this team and there is little value for them in peaking at this stage of the year. Should get the couple of wins they need in the games left.

Both teams will be different animal in the summer.

Next up Kerry in Croker, which will be great preparation for the Galway game in Salthill on the 18th.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 25/02/2018 18:31:41    2080141

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Out of 6 defenders and Goalkeeper only 1 of them will start in the summer which is Boyle, maybe Cafferkey will start but hopefully not. The others dont seem up to it, O Donoghue looked ok in other games but couldnt live with Mannions pace last night which cause awful trouble in the first half. Its good in a way these new lads are getting playing time.
We were terrible at mid field, Coen shouldnt be starting and Hennelly i think that will be his only start for the year, kickouts were bad and error for 2nd goal.
Missed too many score between frees and goal chance start of 2nd half.
Not a good night for mayo but lads getting playing time will hopefully bring them on.
Dubs were good, like always did the basics very well and were way sharper.

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 25/02/2018 22:52:59    2080276

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Replying To tommy132:  "Out of 6 defenders and Goalkeeper only 1 of them will start in the summer which is Boyle, maybe Cafferkey will start but hopefully not. The others dont seem up to it, O Donoghue looked ok in other games but couldnt live with Mannions pace last night which cause awful trouble in the first half. Its good in a way these new lads are getting playing time.
We were terrible at mid field, Coen shouldnt be starting and Hennelly i think that will be his only start for the year, kickouts were bad and error for 2nd goal.
Missed too many score between frees and goal chance start of 2nd half.
Not a good night for mayo but lads getting playing time will hopefully bring them on.
Dubs were good, like always did the basics very well and were way sharper."
Keegan won't start in the summer?

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 26/02/2018 10:50:42    2080373

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Boyle is the one of the only players that gives you 100% in every game, what has Rochford done? Given the captaincy to a big eejet that does f all in every game, before that in 2016/17 the captaincy was given to a forward who was carrying an injury for 2 years and shouldn't have been playing and allow his injury to recover, Boyle is the people's captain, it's the media that has O'Shea as a poster boy for Mayo, let him run riot on the pitch and then he will deserve to be captain

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 26/02/2018 11:02:55    2080391

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Replying To Kurt_Angle:  "Keegan won't start in the summer?"
He came in for Gibbons at Midfield..Hennelly, Crowe, Caffereky, Donoghue, Hall, Drake are the lads who wont start come summer..

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 601 - 26/02/2018 12:01:13    2080417

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Replying To tommy132:  "He came in for Gibbons at Midfield..Hennelly, Crowe, Caffereky, Donoghue, Hall, Drake are the lads who wont start come summer.."
I guarantee you, he did not play in midfield.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 26/02/2018 14:20:53    2080519

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Well I did say if we got beat by 5 or less it would be not a bad result. Terrible misses by us again on the free taking and Gallagher missed a guilt edged chance so we could have been even closer.

That said there is no doubt Dublin were the better team and played within themselves in the second half.

Glad to hear the big traveling Dublin support enjoyed their weekend in the west. It only reinforces the point that the online haterd between the fans is online only and in real life it's a totally different story...

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 26/02/2018 14:32:27    2080530

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Well I did say if we got beat by 5 or less it would be not a bad result. Terrible misses by us again on the free taking and Gallagher missed a guilt edged chance so we could have been even closer.

That said there is no doubt Dublin were the better team and played within themselves in the second half.

Glad to hear the big traveling Dublin support enjoyed their weekend in the west. It only reinforces the point that the online haterd between the fans is online only and in real life it's a totally different story..."
The Big Fella beside me in the stand, bedecked with Green and Red, turns to me when they're taking off Mannion and says "Thank God for that, we was roasting poor Eoin". Then he sees who was replacing him. "Ah, sh*te".

Great craic, even if it was *freezing*.

Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 26/02/2018 16:15:47    2080609

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Well I did say if we got beat by 5 or less it would be not a bad result. Terrible misses by us again on the free taking and Gallagher missed a guilt edged chance so we could have been even closer.

That said there is no doubt Dublin were the better team and played within themselves in the second half.

Glad to hear the big traveling Dublin support enjoyed their weekend in the west. It only reinforces the point that the online haterd between the fans is online only and in real life it's a totally different story..."
Its all keyboard warrior BS, most wouldn't open their mouths face to face so they play the happy friendly fan.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 26/02/2018 16:37:34    2080624

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Well I did say if we got beat by 5 or less it would be not a bad result. Terrible misses by us again on the free taking and Gallagher missed a guilt edged chance so we could have been even closer.

That said there is no doubt Dublin were the better team and played within themselves in the second half.

Glad to hear the big traveling Dublin support enjoyed their weekend in the west. It only reinforces the point that the online haterd between the fans is online only and in real life it's a totally different story..."
Agreed Yew! I met some lovely Mayo people down there, real true and true Gaa fans and as I've always said if Dublin don't win the All Ireland in any given year I'd love to see Mayo do it, I could only imagine the party that would take place down there, best of luck for the rest of the year!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 27/02/2018 18:27:33    2081037

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