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Replying To The_DOC:  "- I'd still be hopeful we can beat Galway in May with our full complement, but the league will now go down to the wire again."
- "I'd be hopefully of having Galways measure come May"

There is a lt of confidence in Mayo for May, and listen im having a go here because I think you will be hard bate above in Castlebar HOWEVER,

1) Where is this confidence coming from? Rochford hasn't the better of Wals yet (although how ye didn't win in Salthill last year still baffles me)
2) A lot of posters saying that we ye have yer full contingent back ye should have 'Galways measure) but again, Galway have the Corofin playes to come back still (Lundy, Burke, Farragher, Molloy and Silke will all be there or thereabouts) PLUS we have some injured players to come back like Daly and O Curraoin who will strengthen the panel as well.

I'm not saying that Galway are going to win at all - history has shown its very difficult to call these games, but I just don't know where this blind confidence that its just a matter of bang come championship you think you'll turn over Galway?"
It's hard to predict a championship game that's three months away. Yer defence looked very solid yesterday but we should be trying to create more spaces in it and go through it rather than indecision and trying to score from outside it. We need more scores from play from our forwards but that's been the case for years. Based on yesterday's game ye'll beat us in May. Forget about players missing on both sides, ye wanted to win more than we did. Bernard Flynn reckons ye're a good bet to play in League Final. It's early days just yet but ye and the Dubs in the final would be some game. And us licking our wounds in the long grass!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 12/02/2018 09:29:09    2076093

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Great win for Galway. 6 points on the board means that they're almost certain to stay up. I think Cork went down 2 years ago on 6 points but it'd be bad luck for Galway to follow suit.

Mayo have been here before and you'd have to expect them to have enough to pull another few points out of the bag.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 12/02/2018 09:44:21    2076098

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Thought the melee/schmozzell looked bad but was fairly harmless stuff. Didn't see any punches thrown. Maybe there were a few inside sneaky belts thrown i didn't see.

Thought COC's red card was well deserved (and yes I'm biased) but it was the only real nasty thing done yesterday and had the potential to break Kerins jaw. He is getting a reputation for these mean strokes. Should have been black carded early on. What is going through his head??? How this this hard man act help Mayo end the famine. Time for him to grow up. Game was over, lick your wounds and come back better. If i was his manager (or teammate) I'd be furious with him.

Diarmuid O'Connor was slightly unlucky. First yellow was correct but we've all been there. Give away a ball and rush into a tackle to win it back. Second yellow I would call and yellow and a half. Reckless swinging high fist. I'd be happy enough with a yellow on the basis the Kerin is small so maybe D'OC wasn't that high (and he doesn't normally do that).

Paul Conroy......well if I was Kevin Walsh I'd kick his arse! You have just been booked. You are an experienced player....what are you doing! Second yellow deserved for stupidity alone, even though not a lot in it but the melee that followed meant he was always getting booked.

Apart from the above Galway look to have made big progress. Can't really be sure till later in league as teams are at different stages of preparation so can be hard to gauge. Sean Andy Kelly looks to be a serious full back.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 12/02/2018 13:46:47    2076225

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Thought the melee/schmozzell looked bad but was fairly harmless stuff. Didn't see any punches thrown. Maybe there were a few inside sneaky belts thrown i didn't see.

Thought COC's red card was well deserved (and yes I'm biased) but it was the only real nasty thing done yesterday and had the potential to break Kerins jaw. He is getting a reputation for these mean strokes. Should have been black carded early on. What is going through his head??? How this this hard man act help Mayo end the famine. Time for him to grow up. Game was over, lick your wounds and come back better. If i was his manager (or teammate) I'd be furious with him.

Diarmuid O'Connor was slightly unlucky. First yellow was correct but we've all been there. Give away a ball and rush into a tackle to win it back. Second yellow I would call and yellow and a half. Reckless swinging high fist. I'd be happy enough with a yellow on the basis the Kerin is small so maybe D'OC wasn't that high (and he doesn't normally do that).

Paul Conroy......well if I was Kevin Walsh I'd kick his arse! You have just been booked. You are an experienced player....what are you doing! Second yellow deserved for stupidity alone, even though not a lot in it but the melee that followed meant he was always getting booked.

Apart from the above Galway look to have made big progress. Can't really be sure till later in league as teams are at different stages of preparation so can be hard to gauge. Sean Andy Kelly looks to be a serious full back."
I was very impressed with Sean Andy at fullback he could be one of the greats in years to come hopefully we'll see himself and Clifford have many good battles in years to come.
I'm looking forward to our game against Galway in 2 weeks.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/02/2018 14:50:42    2076255

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I must say I'm very disappointed that a traditional footballing county like Galway are adopting the tactics of that terrible man McGuinness and putting 15 men behind the ball.

You wouldn't see that kind of disgraceful carry on happening in Donegal where open, traditional football is now all the rage.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 12/02/2018 15:31:59    2076280

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I was very impressed with Sean Andy at fullback he could be one of the greats in years to come hopefully we'll see himself and Clifford have many good battles in years to come.
I'm looking forward to our game against Galway in 2 weeks."
I hope SA does as well as Séamus Moynahan did on PJ!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 706 - 12/02/2018 15:35:15    2076282

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "I must say I'm very disappointed that a traditional footballing county like Galway are adopting the tactics of that terrible man McGuinness and putting 15 men behind the ball.

You wouldn't see that kind of disgraceful carry on happening in Donegal where open, traditional football is now all the rage."
It took a long time for it to catch on in Galway.
Galway have 3 wins and Donegal have 3 defeats though.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 12/02/2018 16:12:09    2076308

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Replying To Barnowl94:  "It took a long time for it to catch on in Galway.
Galway have 3 wins and Donegal have 3 defeats though."
We'll swap you Paddy Mc Brearty for one of our defenders if you want?

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 706 - 12/02/2018 16:23:33    2076311

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Replying To The_DOC:  "I hope SA does as well as Séamus Moynahan did on PJ!"
Jays they were great man v man battles in fairness and you'd looked forward to seeing that.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/02/2018 17:06:24    2076332

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Replying To Barnowl94:  "It took a long time for it to catch on in Galway.
Galway have 3 wins and Donegal have 3 defeats though."
We're purists now doncha know? Taking part is what's important to us.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 12/02/2018 18:23:57    2076350

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Ref watch: Thought the ref had a fairly good game apart from the odd dodgy decision, he let Galway no 3 off without a card when an obvious hand pull in the middle of the pitch in the 1st half, even the TV commentators thought it warranted a card, he was later yellow carded for the mêlée which would have meant he was sent off, Cillian O'Connor's straight red was the correct decision, stupid thing to do but then again he had had 2 poor seasons up to now, he should have been booked in the 1st half for an off the ball incident, time he copped on, my argument though is what was the difference between that awful high elbow on the Galway player and the elbow into the face of a Mayo player while on the ground in the Kerry match which the Kerry player only got a yellow. Diarmuid O'Connor's 2 yellows were correct, both high lazy tackles. The only complaint I have is what happened in the mêlée, we were told when we were playing that if an incident occurs involving 2 players then the ref has a few decisions to make, 1, is it a foul or hop ball? 2, is a card required or not? Now we were told if a 3rd of 4th player becomes involved then its a retaliation and the ref has to show a straight red card, this is the reason why Donie Vaughan got a red card in the All Ireland Final and not the elbow he gave, yesterday the ref flashed 4 yellow cards, now he showed a yellow to a Galway player and a Mayo player, fine but the other 2 yellows were a mistake, by the rules he had to show reds, maybe somebody could clarify the exact rules around these types of incidents. That wrongful decision was the route cause of the 2nd altercation in the middle if the pitch where 2 Galway players received yellows with 1 getting his 2nd yellow and was sent off.
On the whole ref had a fairly decent game but his and his officials poor decision around the mêlée caused further issues after that

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 12/02/2018 20:15:31    2076383

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Replying To riverboys:  "Ref watch: Thought the ref had a fairly good game apart from the odd dodgy decision, he let Galway no 3 off without a card when an obvious hand pull in the middle of the pitch in the 1st half, even the TV commentators thought it warranted a card, he was later yellow carded for the mêlée which would have meant he was sent off, Cillian O'Connor's straight red was the correct decision, stupid thing to do but then again he had had 2 poor seasons up to now, he should have been booked in the 1st half for an off the ball incident, time he copped on, my argument though is what was the difference between that awful high elbow on the Galway player and the elbow into the face of a Mayo player while on the ground in the Kerry match which the Kerry player only got a yellow. Diarmuid O'Connor's 2 yellows were correct, both high lazy tackles. The only complaint I have is what happened in the mêlée, we were told when we were playing that if an incident occurs involving 2 players then the ref has a few decisions to make, 1, is it a foul or hop ball? 2, is a card required or not? Now we were told if a 3rd of 4th player becomes involved then its a retaliation and the ref has to show a straight red card, this is the reason why Donie Vaughan got a red card in the All Ireland Final and not the elbow he gave, yesterday the ref flashed 4 yellow cards, now he showed a yellow to a Galway player and a Mayo player, fine but the other 2 yellows were a mistake, by the rules he had to show reds, maybe somebody could clarify the exact rules around these types of incidents. That wrongful decision was the route cause of the 2nd altercation in the middle if the pitch where 2 Galway players received yellows with 1 getting his 2nd yellow and was sent off.
On the whole ref had a fairly decent game but his and his officials poor decision around the mêlée caused further issues after that"
Think ur right. Red cards for third man in would solve a lot of rubbish. But it would need to be consistently applied. Third man in, touch an opponent irrespective if ur a pacemaker, red card. If u want to make peace pull ur own man out.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 12/02/2018 23:04:04    2076412

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Replying To riverboys:  "Ref watch: Thought the ref had a fairly good game apart from the odd dodgy decision, he let Galway no 3 off without a card when an obvious hand pull in the middle of the pitch in the 1st half, even the TV commentators thought it warranted a card, he was later yellow carded for the mêlée which would have meant he was sent off, Cillian O'Connor's straight red was the correct decision, stupid thing to do but then again he had had 2 poor seasons up to now, he should have been booked in the 1st half for an off the ball incident, time he copped on, my argument though is what was the difference between that awful high elbow on the Galway player and the elbow into the face of a Mayo player while on the ground in the Kerry match which the Kerry player only got a yellow. Diarmuid O'Connor's 2 yellows were correct, both high lazy tackles. The only complaint I have is what happened in the mêlée, we were told when we were playing that if an incident occurs involving 2 players then the ref has a few decisions to make, 1, is it a foul or hop ball? 2, is a card required or not? Now we were told if a 3rd of 4th player becomes involved then its a retaliation and the ref has to show a straight red card, this is the reason why Donie Vaughan got a red card in the All Ireland Final and not the elbow he gave, yesterday the ref flashed 4 yellow cards, now he showed a yellow to a Galway player and a Mayo player, fine but the other 2 yellows were a mistake, by the rules he had to show reds, maybe somebody could clarify the exact rules around these types of incidents. That wrongful decision was the route cause of the 2nd altercation in the middle if the pitch where 2 Galway players received yellows with 1 getting his 2nd yellow and was sent off.
On the whole ref had a fairly decent game but his and his officials poor decision around the mêlée caused further issues after that"
Riverboys not every foul warrants a yellow card sometimes the reff will tick you which is probably what he did because of the theatrical way the mayo player threw himself to the ground probably hoping to get Sean Andy a yellow or a black card.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/02/2018 02:05:45    2076424

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Replying To The_DOC:  "- I'd still be hopeful we can beat Galway in May with our full complement, but the league will now go down to the wire again."
- "I'd be hopefully of having Galways measure come May"

There is a lt of confidence in Mayo for May, and listen im having a go here because I think you will be hard bate above in Castlebar HOWEVER,

1) Where is this confidence coming from? Rochford hasn't the better of Wals yet (although how ye didn't win in Salthill last year still baffles me)
2) A lot of posters saying that we ye have yer full contingent back ye should have 'Galways measure) but again, Galway have the Corofin playes to come back still (Lundy, Burke, Farragher, Molloy and Silke will all be there or thereabouts) PLUS we have some injured players to come back like Daly and O Curraoin who will strengthen the panel as well.

I'm not saying that Galway are going to win at all - history has shown its very difficult to call these games, but I just don't know where this blind confidence that its just a matter of bang come championship you think you'll turn over Galway?"
I think you need to consult the dictionary on the word "hopeful" and indeed the word "can".

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 13/02/2018 08:54:25    2076438

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Riverboys not every foul warrants a yellow card sometimes the reff will tick you which is probably what he did because of the theatrical way the mayo player threw himself to the ground probably hoping to get Sean Andy a yellow or a black card."
To be fair, and I am a Galway man, Sean Andy should have been booked for the pull back i the first half. Blatant, non violent but professional type foul.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 13/02/2018 13:40:12    2076523

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Replying To Mayonman:  "To be fair, and I am a Galway man, Sean Andy should have been booked for the pull back i the first half. Blatant, non violent but professional type foul."
Ya it could have been a yellow no doubt and if it was later in the game or in near the goals it probably would have been , but people have to remember the reff can just tick you if it's your first foul.

Even in soccer fellas often get away with 2/3 rash challenges before they pick up a yellow.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/02/2018 14:48:50    2076555

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Listened to several podcasts and read a few match reports and can't believe no one has mentioned how poor Galway are on their own restarts. On several occasions the ball was kicked where there was 2 Mayo men up against one Galway man.

Its not just Lavelle's fault its the movement in front of him although Mayo are excellent at stopping teams going short. Kicking the ball into a big group of players is a recipe for disaster. The return of Michael Daly will add some height to the half forward line I'm expecting Tally to come up with a plan before our next meeting with Mayo.

JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 13/02/2018 16:57:51    2076585

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ya we were cleaned out in midfield and were not punished by Mayo for it with all their lateral hand passing game. This must be improved on for May game. We play better teams now to finish off the league campaign so its good practice for the c'ship.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 13/02/2018 20:31:15    2076634

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Replying To Gleebo:  "I think you need to consult the dictionary on the word "hopeful" and indeed the word "can"."
I was quoting a previous Mayo poster so take up your issue with them

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 706 - 14/02/2018 09:38:50    2076694

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Sets it up now for a great contest in May, Mayo will be primed next time.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 14/02/2018 21:27:01    2076921

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