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Londonderry - will they ever learn?

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Surprised the moderator is allowing some of the recent posts here. It would be more in the interests of the people in the north to use their vote for people and parties who are interested in running the government for the benefit of people and improving people's lot, rather than groups who pursue ideological straw-man arguments and never miss an opportunity to be offended. I'm talking about both sides here.

Focus on getting people jobs, good health services, infrastructure etc.

Cupotay (Donegal) - Posts: 31 - 31/01/2018 09:59:23    2072702

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The Irish Language Act is about equality more than anything else that I can see. There seems to be quite a cohort of Irish speakers in the North too, a lot more per capita in the Nationalist community there than down here I'd say.

You'll hear as much Irish spoken in West Belfast as you'll hear in any Gaeltacht, probably more to be honest.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12014 - 31/01/2018 10:14:17    2072705

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Ah come on everyone loves Christmas."
Ha - I noticed that after I posted last night but couldn't be holed going back in to correct it. Gotta love auto correct!

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 3668 - 31/01/2018 10:17:14    2072706

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Constantly surprised and disappointed by how dismissive and heartless people from the 26 can be towards people from the 6 and their experiences.

Also to make it your business to do so by going to the trouble of posting on here is another level of insensitivity. Get over yourself, you have no clue.

Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts: 11488 - 31/01/2018 10:19:36    2072707

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "You should really stop getting your information from RTE and the Indo. If you really knew about the North you would realise that the Irish Language Act issue is more to do with equality than anything else. It is about implementing the Good Friday and St. Andrew's Agreements and no NEW demands or issues. Furthermore Scotland has a Scottish Language Act, Wales has one. If Unionists claim they are British and want to be treated as other British people they would should have on opposition to an Irish Language Act for the North of Ireland."
Or you could just go with the Unionist line that it is a Sinn Féin directive and bad for the Union and ignore the fact that it has been called for since the early 90s - hell, even the Irish Government were on to the British Government in 1992 about getting it in to legislation.

Imagine the ridiculousness of asking for an Act to protect your national language. Imagine taking a stand against 100 odd years of those in power up here trying to eradicate Irishness. Be gone with it I say - be gone with anything in the North that is associated with Ireland. In fact, who needs the DUP when you have a mindset in 'Irish' men and women that would happily finish the job started in 1920.... ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 3668 - 31/01/2018 10:26:41    2072709

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Constantly surprised and disappointed by how dismissive and heartless people from the 26 can be towards people from the 6 and their experiences.

Also to make it your business to do so by going to the trouble of posting on here is another level of insensitivity. Get over yourself, you have no clue."
Well said. If some of the individuals in question spent some time living in the north, they'd get their eyes opened.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 31/01/2018 10:49:31    2072717

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I think I am just going to leave this one.

It has descended into a complete farce and has drifted so far from the original topic.

Frankly some of the comments on here have been so cringe worthy and embarrassing.

A lady just said Londonderry instead of Derry for Christs sake!! Listen to yourselves!

What has the world come to that so much offence can be taken from such a simple comment.

Before I leave I just want to state again that none of you Hypocrites would ever consider referring to Derry as Londonderry to appease your unionist neighbours.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 472 - 31/01/2018 11:30:17    2072730

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Replying To MesAmis:  "The Irish Language Act is about equality more than anything else that I can see. There seems to be quite a cohort of Irish speakers in the North too, a lot more per capita in the Nationalist community there than down here I'd say.

You'll hear as much Irish spoken in West Belfast as you'll hear in any Gaeltacht, probably more to be honest."
Yes but if the implementation of this "Equality" means that "Bothar Sean Cille" has to be put up on the Shankill Road then it will be rubbing unionists noses in it. No language should ever be used as a political weapon.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1071 - 31/01/2018 11:34:16    2072736

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We're both as bad as each other dontcha know!!

Heres a few things to consider thing for the more enlightened from Kildare or Galway.

I work very close to Bedford Street, not far from Wellington Place or Royal avenue.
I live not far from Crimea Street, Sevastopol Street and Kashmir Road.
My local hospital is called the Royal Victoria Hospital.
If I want to go shopping in town its likely to be in the Victoria Centre.
My City Hall has a huge cenotaph commemorating British soldiers.
It also adorned internally, almost exclusively, with monuments, statues, commemorating british battles and political figures.

So you see where im going with this????

I appreciate some of you have a fondness for unionism and Britain but is it really asking too much for a bit of equality and respect for my irishness, as enshrined by the GFA and the passport I have sitting at home??

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1834 - 31/01/2018 11:43:20    2072738

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Yes but if the implementation of this "Equality" means that "Bothar Sean Cille" has to be put up on the Shankill Road then it will be rubbing unionists noses in it. No language should ever be used as a political weapon."
There was a rubbing of noses alright and no sign of "Equality" when a £50,000 bursary for pupils to go and study Irish in Gaeltacht areas was cancelled whilst £200,000 was allocated to marching bands not so long ago. I wonder who you think was using the Irish language as a political weapon in that decision?

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 31/01/2018 11:50:02    2072743

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Yes but if the implementation of this "Equality" means that "Bothar Sean Cille" has to be put up on the Shankill Road then it will be rubbing unionists noses in it. No language should ever be used as a political weapon.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 877 - 31/01/2018 11:34:16

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12014 - 31/01/2018 11:55:34    2072744

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Yes but if the implementation of this "Equality" means that "Bothar Sean Cille" has to be put up on the Shankill Road then it will be rubbing unionists noses in it. No language should ever be used as a political weapon.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 877 - 31/01/2018 11:34:16


Straw man argument.

Do you seriously believe that the purpose of the of an Irish Language Act is so that they can put up road signs in Irish in Unionist areas?! C'mon man!

If you'd ever been to Belfast you'd surely have noticed that a lot of street signs are already up in Irish in anyways.

Ridiculous jumping to conclusions there man.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12014 - 31/01/2018 11:59:00    2072745

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