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Dub Hurlers Under Gilroy

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Replying To keeper7:  "Verdict on the game today?"
Good and bad. Giving up a lead of, 8 pts I think it was ,would be cause for concern but to come through in the end showed character.
Limerick hammering Offaly would suggest there are some twists and turns still to come before we know where we really stand.
No AI this year though :(

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 04/02/2018 21:17:47    2074072

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Prepacked meals may well aid those footballing fairies, but won't count in the hurling as the Dubs are finding out.

Skill wise the Dubs are on a par with Laois, Westmeath and the likes, not in the top bracket yet and one of the few hurlers capable of being a benefit to the county team opts for the footballers anyway.

Still hard to see the Dubs making inroads.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 05/02/2018 13:16:14    2074256

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Dublin getting hammered again tonight, this time by Limerick. "They seem to have no shape or direction to them" says the RTE radio commentator. Ger Cunningham must be having a wry smile to himself.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 17/02/2018 20:20:49    2077752

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It just dosent seem to be working...im sure dublin were taking this league seriously to make up for the really poor past few years and to lay down a marker for the new manager. There best team was 2011 to 2013 and how they have fallen since. I was full sure when gilroy came in they would be back competing plus some players returning..ger cunningham seemed to come in for a lot of stick, I wonder now was it all his own fault and was he judged too harshly because for some reason in his first few league games in 2015 , they seemed to be just flying I remember and the whole thing just fell like a stone in a bog hole after that...

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 736 - 17/02/2018 20:58:30    2077766

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Far to early to say , certainly would be a different proposition with Cuala players playing , I certainly wouldn't buy into the hype if we'd won first three games so won't panic it's yet , certainly performances haven't been good enough but it only February

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 17/02/2018 21:32:27    2077774

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Keep getting results like this and we'll have no problem hanging on to the footballers thats for sure.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 17/02/2018 21:58:22    2077780

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You'll see a much different Dublin team come championship so I wouldn't be worried just yet. Remember Gilroy is five months into the job and he appears to be still in experimental mode with big game players like Rushe and Sutcliffe easing back in and the Cuala lads unavailable. As Gilroy said after the Limerick game it's going to take some time. So supporters need to be patient. I wish Kevin Martin had the talent he has at his disposal.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 20/02/2018 11:52:25    2078688

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He'll need time - the panel was in an awful mess. All over the shop.. very dysfunctional stuff

He's a shrewd operator and deserves to be be given the adequate amount of time.

Only 3 games in - promotion into 1A isn't important imo right now but good to stay in 1B if we can.

The Cuala players will of course have a big impact and there's some quality there

It's silly to be getting jumpy so early into the new setup.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 20/02/2018 12:02:56    2078694

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Allot expected from the Cuala lads when they return. Win or loose the club final, it will be difficult for those players to retain the level of appetite required to perform at their best for Dublin. They have been non-stop now for a couple of years.

I think Dublin will be well prepared for Championship and 3rd spot in Leinster would be a great achievement.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 20/02/2018 13:33:39    2078724

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Replying To Ban:  "Allot expected from the Cuala lads when they return. Win or loose the club final, it will be difficult for those players to retain the level of appetite required to perform at their best for Dublin. They have been non-stop now for a couple of years.

I think Dublin will be well prepared for Championship and 3rd spot in Leinster would be a great achievement."
True that the Cuala lads are on the road awhile now but Gilroy could call up a huge number of them.

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 20/02/2018 14:30:34    2078744

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Dublin's performances so fat from 2 nd half against Wexford have been shocking, they're really are no positives to be taken. Young players confidence is been shot. Gilroy says it will take time to be top 4,realistically they're not even top 4 in Leinster. On current form they could get relegated from Leinster championship, but you would expect the Chuala players to push them on a bit. It was a big risk appointing non hurling people to the positions when they could have had the most successful manager in dublin hurling.

theduke66 (Dublin) - Posts: 334 - 20/02/2018 15:09:47    2078755

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Replying To theduke66:  "Dublin's performances so fat from 2 nd half against Wexford have been shocking, they're really are no positives to be taken. Young players confidence is been shot. Gilroy says it will take time to be top 4,realistically they're not even top 4 in Leinster. On current form they could get relegated from Leinster championship, but you would expect the Chuala players to push them on a bit. It was a big risk appointing non hurling people to the positions when they could have had the most successful manager in dublin hurling."
It was a gamble to bring PG in as the football manager when Dublin were well off the pace in the race for All Irelands and we know what happened. Now , I do not for one minute think Dublin will be winning an AI any time soon but I'd give him a couple of years before judging him and I think he has earned that .
Kenny would've been a bloody good option of course too but I think Gilroy will do ok in the long run.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 20/02/2018 15:35:53    2078764

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If Kenny had got the appointment at what stage would he have quit Cuala?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 20/02/2018 16:01:19    2078773

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Far to early to say , certainly would be a different proposition with Cuala players playing , I certainly wouldn't buy into the hype if we'd won first three games so won't panic it's yet , certainly performances haven't been good enough but it only February"
Anthony Cunningham never had Galway at much in the league if its any consolation, never relegated but never pushing that far either really. Some games were hit and miss and you could see that players were playing league games with heavy legs.

Wouldn't worry too much yet - lets see what pans out in high-summer.

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 706 - 20/02/2018 16:12:36    2078775

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Anthony Cunningham never had Galway at much in the league if its any consolation, never relegated but never pushing that far either really. Some games were hit and miss and you could see that players were playing league games with heavy legs.

Wouldn't worry too much yet - lets see what pans out in high-summer."
There are probably 10 players to come into the Dublin team. 4 or 5 from Cuala plus quality players like Dillon, Rush, Ryan, Kelly and McCaffrey. I'm probably forgetting 1 or 2 in that. The problem is that the panel doesn't have the depth it should. With the new format that may be telling.

Tadhgmacda (Limerick) - Posts: 99 - 20/02/2018 16:49:51    2078781

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Replying To The_DOC:  "Anthony Cunningham never had Galway at much in the league if its any consolation, never relegated but never pushing that far either really. Some games were hit and miss and you could see that players were playing league games with heavy legs.

Wouldn't worry too much yet - lets see what pans out in high-summer."
Very good point made here Doc. Gilroy even alluded to the amount of heavy training they are doing in his post-match interview.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 20/02/2018 18:00:28    2078806

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I wouldn't write off Dublin, I don't think the league holds the same importance this year, the real league starts in a few months and that's what matters most. I think Gilroy will do a fine job but he will need time to build, the criticism on the Sunday game was a little harsh I felt

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1593 - 21/02/2018 08:49:44    2078922

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This year will be a development year, Dublin will be more then competitive year two and three.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 21/02/2018 09:43:31    2078931

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Patience is called for, Pat will need to time to get his structures and systems in place. Remember the startled earwigs in 2009 and the "Gilroy Out" signs in 2010 after Meath knocked the footballers out of Leinster.....we all remember what happened after that.

bubba83 (Dublin) - Posts: 333 - 21/02/2018 10:52:42    2078947

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Replying To TheUsername:  "This year will be a development year, Dublin will be more then competitive year two and three."
But Cummins comments were merited all the same.

Calling back Keaney and a few others who are possibly in the twilight of their careers sent out the wrong message to some young lads on the panel.
If it was Gilroys attempt to galvinise the team before development then it hasn't worked. He'd have been as well taking that trimming off Limerick with the young fella's on the team.

Still think the Dubs will stay in Div1B as its looking like a relegation playoff with either Laois or Antrim, more than likely Antrim as I think Laois will beat the Dubs, but the Dubs will have enough to see off Antrim in the relegation playoff.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 21/02/2018 12:32:32    2078965

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