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Meath v Carlow 3 Jan 2018

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Hopefully all new players get a run out at some stage in the OBC don't really mind if we win it or not it's the league i'd be focusing on. With regards to the league I would like to see us win division 2 and get up to division 1 now that may mean little progress in the Championship as see with a couple of teams but it can lead on to bigger and better things just look at Roscommon for example. As for the team for the first few rounds of league i'm basing it on lads that have been on the panel and preformed for the last number of years plus lads who played well in the championships last year in Meath with the exception of Rooney as he needs as much football as possible:

1.) McDermott (Dunshauglin)
2.) Gallagher (Simonstown)
3.) McGill (Ratoath)
4.) Glynn (Tones)
5.) Toner (Curaha)
6.) Conlon (Simonstown)
7.) Power (Ratoath)
8.) Rooney (Skyrne)
9.) Menton (Ashbourne)
10.) Reilly (St Colmcilles)
11.) Dardis (Summerhill)
12.) O'Sullivan (Moynalvey)
13.) Mckeever (Simonstown)
14.) O Reilly (Tones)
15.) Lenihan (Dunboyne)"
Good team,though would like to see McEntee and O Reilly in the half forward line

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 30/12/2017 19:06:33    2066299

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Replying To St.Conleth: "Brilluant. Will take him a while to figure that one out."
Honestly, though lads

Kildare are the only team in Leinster at the moment who will challenge Dublin and they have a lot of very exciting players. They need to find some belief from somewhere though.

Meath have fallen a long long way and are in a bad place. Our best players have left the panel and those on it aren't even turning up for training or challenge matches in sufficient numbers.
Crinigan (Meath) - 29/12/2017 14:05:15 2066148

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I'm sorry I can't let this blatant lie go. Come on crinigan either back this up with facts or withdraw them.
Now I know it was to get kudos from the Kildare lads on main forum at my expense (I'm too long on here to care). But to post such a accusation against our senior team and players and management without even trying to back it up is to say the least disgraceful. I will ask you to either give the players names who aren't bothered to turn up to training or challenge matches that were named in 41 man panel.
Or if as we all know this isn't happening. Retract the unfair and unmeath comments to our lads who are turning up at every training and challenge match that they can."
First off, you are embarrassing us on the main page with your arrogant nonsense, not for first time either.

Secondly do you really think 1) anyone here is going to write down in great detail what some of the issues are with the panel and 2) that they would be allowed to be published on a forum such as this. I'd thought you'd know that since you've been around here so long.

If you lived in the county or were anyway involved in the county rather than existing in your own time capsule dated between 1987 and 1999, you'd probably have an indication of the issues at hand.

And save us the suddenly sensitive to the plight of the Meath players after all the disgraceful mud you threw at the previous management team and the players that left the panel recently.

As I said, it's time to support the current players and management and hope all issues get sorted so we can put our best foot forward.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 30/12/2017 20:18:02    2066307

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Ziggy- How can you say a team is a good team when it has played no matches or won nothing -explain?

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 30/12/2017 20:32:40    2066309

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Replying To browncows:  "Ziggy- How can you say a team is a good team when it has played no matches or won nothing -explain?"
They are good players. Great to see Shane Gallagher there too.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 30/12/2017 21:16:28    2066316

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My only concern is that when one talks up a team and then that teams get beaten it offers the opportunity for posters to criticise the team and individual players which in many cases is not helpful to anyone. All the players who have left the panel over the last number of years were very committed when involved and indeed all players in the present set-up are committed as are the management past and present. I wish all involved the best for 2018.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 30/12/2017 22:08:53    2066320

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Replying To browncows:  "My only concern is that when one talks up a team and then that teams get beaten it offers the opportunity for posters to criticise the team and individual players which in many cases is not helpful to anyone. All the players who have left the panel over the last number of years were very committed when involved and indeed all players in the present set-up are committed as are the management past and present. I wish all involved the best for 2018."
Nobody is saying it's an all Ireland winning team, but I don't necessarily think our team will be weaker this year because some players left..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 30/12/2017 22:40:15    2066323

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Replying To ziggy320001:  "Nobody is saying it's an all Ireland winning team, but I don't necessarily think our team will be weaker this year because some players left.."
Ziggy: I think you're correct in saying that it is no weaker in fact i'll go one further and say it has the potential to be strong in certain areas, last year all we had was Lenihan as a scoring threat this year we have added O Reilly and McKeever. Over the last 3 year McKeever and Lenihan have been the standout forwards in the senior championship while O Reilly is a great up and coming prospect.
It is also great to see Gallaher and Glynn added as defensive cover as both have been 2 of the most consistent man markers at senior level while McGill hardly puts a foot wrong with Ratoath. Conlon has been a great find for Simonstown and definitely the best center back in the club championship the past two years bar Keoghan.

Now while all what I have said is good there is still question marks over midfield. The last two years in the senior championship O Rourke and Nash have been the standout guys by a mile yet one is unable to play due to injury and the other is 15000km away. You then take a look at other guys around the county and you see the likes of Brian Meade (who I feel had another couple of years left at least), Steven Corrigan (who catches ball for fun) and Ronan Jones (who was probably the best up and coming talent at midfield in the county). Now I know it's not possible for these guys to be on the panel but a partnership of any 2 of the 5 mentioned above would have a hay day against the current midfield options on the panel.
While we have improved in certain areas player wise there is others where we have added nothing.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 30/12/2017 23:25:33    2066328

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Ziggy: I think you're correct in saying that it is no weaker in fact i'll go one further and say it has the potential to be strong in certain areas, last year all we had was Lenihan as a scoring threat this year we have added O Reilly and McKeever. Over the last 3 year McKeever and Lenihan have been the standout forwards in the senior championship while O Reilly is a great up and coming prospect.
It is also great to see Gallaher and Glynn added as defensive cover as both have been 2 of the most consistent man markers at senior level while McGill hardly puts a foot wrong with Ratoath. Conlon has been a great find for Simonstown and definitely the best center back in the club championship the past two years bar Keoghan.

Now while all what I have said is good there is still question marks over midfield. The last two years in the senior championship O Rourke and Nash have been the standout guys by a mile yet one is unable to play due to injury and the other is 15000km away. You then take a look at other guys around the county and you see the likes of Brian Meade (who I feel had another couple of years left at least), Steven Corrigan (who catches ball for fun) and Ronan Jones (who was probably the best up and coming talent at midfield in the county). Now I know it's not possible for these guys to be on the panel but a partnership of any 2 of the 5 mentioned above would have a hay day against the current midfield options on the panel.
While we have improved in certain areas player wise there is others where we have added nothing."
Yeah take your point about midfield and it is vital we keep Rooney and Menton fit. You can throw Gillespie in there as a player we lost. We have been unlucky in this area.
Our other options are Adam Flanagan and Dan O Neill and Conlon can play in there.
Having said all that if you compare to last year we have lost Jones but added Rooney, so in terms of that we are possibly stronger as Jones was yet to establish himself and Rooney will really suit the mark.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 31/12/2017 07:58:36    2066336

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But your general point is correct and has robbed us of Menton at wing back

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 31/12/2017 08:19:34    2066337

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Replying To Crinigan:  "First off, you are embarrassing us on the main page with your arrogant nonsense, not for first time either.

Secondly do you really think 1) anyone here is going to write down in great detail what some of the issues are with the panel and 2) that they would be allowed to be published on a forum such as this. I'd thought you'd know that since you've been around here so long.

If you lived in the county or were anyway involved in the county rather than existing in your own time capsule dated between 1987 and 1999, you'd probably have an indication of the issues at hand.

And save us the suddenly sensitive to the plight of the Meath players after all the disgraceful mud you threw at the previous management team and the players that left the panel recently.

As I said, it's time to support the current players and management and hope all issues get sorted so we can put our best foot forward."
Right give a percentage of those on panel and not turning up for training and challenges. Or is it all a fabrication? Which we all know that it is.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/12/2017 10:35:42    2066341

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Replying To Crinigan:  "First off, you are embarrassing us on the main page with your arrogant nonsense, not for first time either.

Secondly do you really think 1) anyone here is going to write down in great detail what some of the issues are with the panel and 2) that they would be allowed to be published on a forum such as this. I'd thought you'd know that since you've been around here so long.

If you lived in the county or were anyway involved in the county rather than existing in your own time capsule dated between 1987 and 1999, you'd probably have an indication of the issues at hand.

And save us the suddenly sensitive to the plight of the Meath players after all the disgraceful mud you threw at the previous management team and the players that left the panel recently.

As I said, it's time to support the current players and management and hope all issues get sorted so we can put our best foot forward."
How about numbers? You stated that we were finding it hard to field a team for challenges, so at a guess you saying 20+ players on the panel are not turning up , is that same figures that are not turning up to training? As I was aware there was almost a full compliment of players at last training, and at least 35 players at the recent challenge match v Monaghan . So please why the misinformation? You obviously got it completely wrong . Just come out and say it and get behind Andy and the players. It's a bigger thing to admit you were wrong. If you don't no one will ever take anything you write on here seriously, it's one thing winding up other counties supporters, it's a entirely different thing saying players not bothering turning up for training or matches. That's out of line. And wait until the rossies start throwing that at us on here before league, we will all have to defend them cause of a innuendo with not a ounce of truth in it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/12/2017 12:38:41    2066351

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A side I wouldn't mind seeing on Wednesday would be something along these lines.

1. Andy Colgan
2. Mickey Burke
3. Cormac McGill
4. Dan O'Neill
5. David Toner
6. Brian Power
7. Seamus Lavin
8. Brían Conlon
9. Bryan Menton
10. James McEntee
11. Barry Dardis
12. Paddy Kennelly
13. Cillian O'Sullivan
14. Padraig McKeever
15. Thomas O'Reilly

It gives a mixture of new players and ones with more experience and then next weekend change it up to give others a chance against Wicklow.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 31/12/2017 13:48:28    2066363

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Replying To jackhackett:  "A side I wouldn't mind seeing on Wednesday would be something along these lines.

1. Andy Colgan
2. Mickey Burke
3. Cormac McGill
4. Dan O'Neill
5. David Toner
6. Brian Power
7. Seamus Lavin
8. Brían Conlon
9. Bryan Menton
10. James McEntee
11. Barry Dardis
12. Paddy Kennelly
13. Cillian O'Sullivan
14. Padraig McKeever
15. Thomas O'Reilly

It gives a mixture of new players and ones with more experience and then next weekend change it up to give others a chance against Wicklow."
1. Andy Colgan 1 Andy Colgan
2. Mickey Burke 2 Shane Glynn
3. Cormac McGill 3 Cormac McGill
4. Dan O'Neill 4 Michael Burke
5. David Toner 5 Brian Power
6. Brian Power 6 Dan O Neill
7. Seamus Lavin 7 Brian Conlon
8. Brían Conlon 8 Bryan Menton
9. Bryan Menton 9 Harry Rooney
10. James McEntee 10 Cillian O Sullivan
11. Barry Dardis 11 James McEntee
12. Paddy Kennelly 12 Daire Rowe
13. Cillian O'Sullivan 13 Thomas Reilly
14. Padraig McKeever 14 Padraig Mckeever
15. Thomas O'Reilly 15 Donal lenihan

Both teams are a decent start for us for the year

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 31/12/2017 14:23:16    2066366

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Replying To Bear10:  "1. Andy Colgan 1 Andy Colgan
2. Mickey Burke 2 Shane Glynn
3. Cormac McGill 3 Cormac McGill
4. Dan O'Neill 4 Michael Burke
5. David Toner 5 Brian Power
6. Brian Power 6 Dan O Neill
7. Seamus Lavin 7 Brian Conlon
8. Brían Conlon 8 Bryan Menton
9. Bryan Menton 9 Harry Rooney
10. James McEntee 10 Cillian O Sullivan
11. Barry Dardis 11 James McEntee
12. Paddy Kennelly 12 Daire Rowe
13. Cillian O'Sullivan 13 Thomas Reilly
14. Padraig McKeever 14 Padraig Mckeever
15. Thomas O'Reilly 15 Donal lenihan

Both teams are a decent start for us for the year"
We know McGill burke cos lenihane mento etc will all be on team along with Reilly and other definite starters.
For me it's about the new lads, and Rooney to find their feet. Don't get me wrong I like the look of your team , just I want to see what other lads can do.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/12/2017 14:49:41    2066371

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Replying To royaldunne:  "We know McGill burke cos lenihane mento etc will all be on team along with Reilly and other definite starters.
For me it's about the new lads, and Rooney to find their feet. Don't get me wrong I like the look of your team , just I want to see what other lads can do."
I think that the new lads would be best served by having some experience in alongside them. I would be of the opinion that to throw in all new players would be unfair on them.

As for Rooney, if what happened with Harnan last year is anything to go by then he won't be thrown back in straight away.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 31/12/2017 15:20:47    2066375

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Replying To Bear10:  "1. Andy Colgan 1 Andy Colgan
2. Mickey Burke 2 Shane Glynn
3. Cormac McGill 3 Cormac McGill
4. Dan O'Neill 4 Michael Burke
5. David Toner 5 Brian Power
6. Brian Power 6 Dan O Neill
7. Seamus Lavin 7 Brian Conlon
8. Brían Conlon 8 Bryan Menton
9. Bryan Menton 9 Harry Rooney
10. James McEntee 10 Cillian O Sullivan
11. Barry Dardis 11 James McEntee
12. Paddy Kennelly 12 Daire Rowe
13. Cillian O'Sullivan 13 Thomas Reilly
14. Padraig McKeever 14 Padraig Mckeever
15. Thomas O'Reilly 15 Donal lenihan

Both teams are a decent start for us for the year"
Rowe not on panel..

Actually Kennelly is another possibly option at midfield..
Carlow will be a good test, they have improved and apparently are playing pretty much their best 15. So a good test for new lads

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 31/12/2017 15:31:36    2066376

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Replying To royaldunne:  "We know McGill burke cos lenihane mento etc will all be on team along with Reilly and other definite starters.
For me it's about the new lads, and Rooney to find their feet. Don't get me wrong I like the look of your team , just I want to see what other lads can do."
Think it is good to mix the old and the new though RD over the 2 games.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 31/12/2017 15:32:37    2066377

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Replying To royaldunne:  "We know McGill burke cos lenihane mento etc will all be on team along with Reilly and other definite starters.
For me it's about the new lads, and Rooney to find their feet. Don't get me wrong I like the look of your team , just I want to see what other lads can do."
I wonder what Graham Reilly would be like in the half back line . Would he be an option there with his pace ? Is there any players from South of the county Summerhill , Longwood Clonard ,Na Fianna , Trim or the Bracks good enough to play County Senior ?

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 31/12/2017 15:45:30    2066379

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Replying To ziggy320001:  "Rowe not on panel..

Actually Kennelly is another possibly option at midfield..
Carlow will be a good test, they have improved and apparently are playing pretty much their best 15. So a good test for new lads"
Do you have the panel Ziggy

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 31/12/2017 15:49:36    2066380

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Replying To Bear10:  "Do you have the panel Ziggy"
It's in this weeks Meath Chronicle.

Barry Dardis from Summerhill is in it(you asked about Summerhill players)

Other new players include..

Garry
Halligan(both Rathkenny)

Glynn
O'Neill(both Wolfe Tones)

Gallagher
McCabe
McKeever(All Simonstown)

Conor Dempsey
Luke Martyn (Dunderry lads)

Luke Moran(Trim)
Eoghan Greene (Skyrne)

Liam Ferguson(Kells)

Darragh Griffin( Athboy)


You probably know the rest

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 31/12/2017 16:41:50    2066383

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