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Can Galway repeat feat as All Ireland/League Champs?

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Forget the league, if Galway can put back to back AIs together that would be huge!

realdub (Dublin) - 25/11/2017 16:06:59    2063530

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Replying To Canuck:  "It is great that 90% here (mostly Galway) are writing off Waterford. Keep it up. However it is quiet disrespectful to a county that was very gracious to you in a puck of the ball defeat."
I don't think it's fair to say that the people who matter, ie the Galway players and management were disrespectful to WD. Joe Canning expressed what would have been the sentiment amongst most Galway supports ie that it was a bittersweet victory since Galway defeated a team that had been waiting much longer than Galway for the All Ireland. I would say that if Galway supporters were asked which other county they'd like to see winning an All Ireland in hurling most of them would go for Waterford.

baire (Galway) - 25/11/2017 16:08:46    2063531

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Replying To baire:  "I don't think it's fair to say that the people who matter, ie the Galway players and management were disrespectful to WD. Joe Canning expressed what would have been the sentiment amongst most Galway supports ie that it was a bittersweet victory since Galway defeated a team that had been waiting much longer than Galway for the All Ireland. I would say that if Galway supporters were asked which other county they'd like to see winning an All Ireland in hurling most of them would go for Waterford."
I agree with you. I'd love to see Waterford win one just not at Galway's expense. I always said it was a crying shame John Mullane never won one. This current crew they have should end the wait soon.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 26/11/2017 02:40:48    2063558

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Replying To gilly2308:  "The million dollar question, yes they are undoubtedly good enough, but only if they are mentally right will they retain Liam. I would also see Tipperary as the main threat, Tipp like Galway (although Tipp aren't as bad) are massive underachievers, they never pushed on after 2001, 2010 or 2016, so it will be interesting to see how Galway are next season, while Tipperary still have most of the team that easily won the All Ireland in 2016. Personally I think Galway were undoubtedly the best side in the country last season, however the weight of history as always would have weighed heavily upon them, not to mention everybody making them favourites for Liam, but they did finally did it, and crept over the line. However they have no excuses now, they are easily good enough, the shackles are off and if they could start scoring a few goals to go with their massive point scoring ability, they're is nothing out there to fear but themselve"
Replying To gilly2308: "The million dollar question, yes they are undoubtedly good enough, but only if they are mentally right will they retain Liam. I would also see Tipperary as the main threat, Tipp like Galway (although Tipp aren't as bad) are massive underachievers, they never pushed on after 2001, 2010 or 2016, so it will be interesting to see how Galway are next season, while Tipperary still have most of the team that easily won the All Ireland in 2016. Personally I think Galway were undoubtedly the best side in the country last season, however the weight of history as always would have weighed heavily upon them, not to mention everybody making them favourites for Liam, but they did finally did it, and crept over the line. However they have no excuses now, they are easily good enough, the shackles are off and if they could start scoring a few goals to go with their massive point scoring ability, they're is nothing out there to fear but themselve"

I think its fair to say that Tipp won the final easily against kk in 2016 but overall they were very lucky to beat Galway by a point in the semi final and thus I think is inaccurate to say they "easily won the All Ireland in 2016"

jkiamasnake (Galway) - 26/11/2017 12:59:55    2063578

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Replying To jkiamasnake:  "Replying To gilly2308: "The million dollar question, yes they are undoubtedly good enough, but only if they are mentally right will they retain Liam. I would also see Tipperary as the main threat, Tipp like Galway (although Tipp aren't as bad) are massive underachievers, they never pushed on after 2001, 2010 or 2016, so it will be interesting to see how Galway are next season, while Tipperary still have most of the team that easily won the All Ireland in 2016. Personally I think Galway were undoubtedly the best side in the country last season, however the weight of history as always would have weighed heavily upon them, not to mention everybody making them favourites for Liam, but they did finally did it, and crept over the line. However they have no excuses now, they are easily good enough, the shackles are off and if they could start scoring a few goals to go with their massive point scoring ability, they're is nothing out there to fear but themselve"

I think its fair to say that Tipp won the final easily against kk in 2016 but overall they were very lucky to beat Galway by a point in the semi final and thus I think is inaccurate to say they "easily won the All Ireland in 2016""
I agree. The last 3 Championship matches between Galway and Tipp have been anything but easy for either side.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 27/11/2017 01:40:45    2063705

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Replying To gilly2308:  "Canuck I don't think I'm been disingenuous to Waterford for one second, they pushed Galway all the way, they could just have easily have won that game, and I don't think one person would be surprised were Waterford to go all of the way next year. However the question was asked if Galway could retain the All Ireland, and Tipperary would most definitely be seen as the main challengers to Galway, but who knows it could just as easily be Waterford if Tipperary go missing for most of the season just like they did this year bar the semi final? It is also well within the realms of possibility that Galway might go missing next year leaving it between Tipperary and Waterford for Liam.
Finally Pope not sure if I agree with you in regards to 2001, this was yet another All Ireland where Galway didn't 'turn up' after a great semi final performance, shot a load of bad wides and conceded a stupid goal, so not sure how blaming the referee as we tend to do in Galway was the cause of us losing the 2001 final?"
You managed to disrespect 3 counties including your own in one post...good lad! Also rather than say tipp went missing I'd rather say they were below par and you might respect that in 2018 if Galway do the same. Also, have a look back at the Tipp-Galway games of the last 3 years and you'll see Tipp played very poorly this year against Galway. The game was riddled with errors. At best Galway were the same as 2017 but that's not saying they weren't miles better than the pack but you can expect a different cship in 2018. Taking KK and the current Dublin team out of it...back to backs are rare enough since Galway won in 88.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 27/11/2017 08:34:56    2063719

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Replying To tiobraid:  "You managed to disrespect 3 counties including your own in one post...good lad! Also rather than say tipp went missing I'd rather say they were below par and you might respect that in 2018 if Galway do the same. Also, have a look back at the Tipp-Galway games of the last 3 years and you'll see Tipp played very poorly this year against Galway. The game was riddled with errors. At best Galway were the same as 2017 but that's not saying they weren't miles better than the pack but you can expect a different cship in 2018. Taking KK and the current Dublin team out of it...back to backs are rare enough since Galway won in 88."
One of the biggest differences I noticed in the last 3 Tipp-Galway Championship matches was Seamus Callinan. He was an absolute savage against Galway in 2015 and 2016-Jonny Coen couldn't mark him-and then in the 2017 he played fair enough but nothing like the previous years.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 28/11/2017 15:25:20    2063905

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Replying To Trump2020:  "One of the biggest differences I noticed in the last 3 Tipp-Galway Championship matches was Seamus Callinan. He was an absolute savage against Galway in 2015 and 2016-Jonny Coen couldn't mark him-and then in the 2017 he played fair enough but nothing like the previous years."
I'm fairly sure Coen wasn't marking him for even a minute in any of the games. He destroyed Mannion in 15 and would've done the same to Hanbury only for one of the worst tackles I've seen on a pitch. Daithi Burke done a good job in him in 2016 but he did set up the McGrath goal and Burke handled him again this year. Correct me if I'm wong but I don't remember Coen being anywhere near him in any of the three games!

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 28/11/2017 16:10:00    2063907

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Replying To Canuck:  "Another poster put Waterford at 4th. Tipperary and Kilkenny did not win their provence either. If you were to use percentage of wins over losses in championship hurling, Waterford's record over Galway is superior to any one else's. A second string Waterford team ran them around the field at home in the league this year until they decided to take their foot off the pedal. Galway should probably be more concerned running into Waterford than anyone else.
I stayed to applaud Galway at the final. They deservedly beat a Waterford team who did not play at their best with one of the best player side lined and a top forward away. To supplement what was on the field they have to come in defence,McNulty, Lyons, Pendergast, Prunty etc. In attack Devine. Curran, Roche, Foran, Stephen Bennett, Hogan and others. Ian O'Regan is probably the second best keeper in the country. So look out and anyone who discounts Wexford, Limerick and Clare it is at their peril."
No that poster said the bookies have Waterford as 4th favourites.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 28/11/2017 17:20:46    2063918

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'm fairly sure Coen wasn't marking him for even a minute in any of the games. He destroyed Mannion in 15 and would've done the same to Hanbury only for one of the worst tackles I've seen on a pitch. Daithi Burke done a good job in him in 2016 but he did set up the McGrath goal and Burke handled him again this year. Correct me if I'm wong but I don't remember Coen being anywhere near him in any of the three games!"
I don't remember Coen marking him either. It was Mannion and Hanbury in 2015 and Daithi Burke in 2016 and 2017.

This Galway team seem really level headed and O'Donoghue is the business so I think they have a great chance of a double double. Even if they don't get promoted they should easily make the league playoffs. I think they will get promoted. They should easily make the Leinster final and push on at a tilt for the title from there.

The other thing I feel with the new championship structure is you need a deep panel and I think Galway have an abundance of talent that will cover injuries and the demands of more games next year.

The big question is how will Kilkenny bounce back. I expect them to be at full throttle next year.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - 28/11/2017 17:27:40    2063920

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'm fairly sure Coen wasn't marking him for even a minute in any of the games. He destroyed Mannion in 15 and would've done the same to Hanbury only for one of the worst tackles I've seen on a pitch. Daithi Burke done a good job in him in 2016 but he did set up the McGrath goal and Burke handled him again this year. Correct me if I'm wong but I don't remember Coen being anywhere near him in any of the three games!"
What did paudie Maher do to Joe canning in 2016 he took him out off it.Maher done what he had to do and thus tipp won the game when Joe went off.Hanbury done what he had to do in 2015 and thus Galway won the game it's a man's game.

bud14 (Galway) - 28/11/2017 18:44:22    2063928

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'm fairly sure Coen wasn't marking him for even a minute in any of the games. He destroyed Mannion in 15 and would've done the same to Hanbury only for one of the worst tackles I've seen on a pitch. Daithi Burke done a good job in him in 2016 but he did set up the McGrath goal and Burke handled him again this year. Correct me if I'm wong but I don't remember Coen being anywhere near him in any of the three games!"
I stand corrected. Pádraig Mannion it was not Johnny Coen. I just watched it again on YouTube. You're right.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 28/11/2017 22:45:56    2063947

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Replying To bud14:  "What did paudie Maher do to Joe canning in 2016 he took him out off it.Maher done what he had to do and thus tipp won the game when Joe went off.Hanbury done what he had to do in 2015 and thus Galway won the game it's a man's game."
Anyone would have pulled him down considering the way he was playing...what he done though wasn't manly (it was cowardly). A similar tackle in rugby would come with an automatic 2 month ban I'd guess. It was definitely the most dangerous tackle I've seen on a hurling field. Maher's tackle on Canning wasn't even a free so I'm not sure how the hell you can compare the two. Also, considering one tackle was to win a line ball and the other was to stop a certain goal...it's hardly like for like. Canning also went off with a hamstring injury later in the half, which by all accounts he came into the game with so your point is a bit ridiculous
It's not sour grapes as I would have pulled Callinan down in the same situation...and I'm not for one second saying it changed the outcome of the game but he overstepped the mark.
When you consider the whole helmet thing this year, its crazy there wasn't a ban

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 29/11/2017 10:42:36    2063971

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I don't think they will win the league because it wont be a priority. They will want freshness come the Championship

They have a great chance of winning the All-Ireland. I think allot will depend on Tipp. Both teams are ahead of the rest and will take some beating

Ban (Westmeath) - 29/11/2017 12:05:26    2063984

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Replying To Ban:  "I don't think they will win the league because it wont be a priority. They will want freshness come the Championship

They have a great chance of winning the All-Ireland. I think allot will depend on Tipp. Both teams are ahead of the rest and will take some beating"
I'm looking at it the opposite of you in that I think they are far more likely to win the League than the All Ireland due to being in 1B allowing them a little more luxury of pulling more guys off the bench or starting guys that might not start if they were in 1A where every match is too close to call. Galway are already a deep team but could use being in 1B to get even deeper and should almost be a shoo-in to get to the playoff stages.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 29/11/2017 16:04:07    2064032

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Replying To Ban:  "I don't think they will win the league because it wont be a priority. They will want freshness come the Championship

They have a great chance of winning the All-Ireland. I think allot will depend on Tipp. Both teams are ahead of the rest and will take some beating"
As for freshness, the longer you're in the League the better off you are as there's a bit of a gap until the Championship starts. Being in the 2017 League Final didn't hurt Galway or Tipp as they both went deep into the Championship.

Trump2020 (Galway) - 29/11/2017 23:39:24    2064068

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Replying To tiobraid:  "I'm fairly sure Coen wasn't marking him for even a minute in any of the games. He destroyed Mannion in 15 and would've done the same to Hanbury only for one of the worst tackles I've seen on a pitch. Daithi Burke done a good job in him in 2016 but he did set up the McGrath goal and Burke handled him again this year. Correct me if I'm wong but I don't remember Coen being anywhere near him in any of the three games!"
You are correct about Coen not marking him but to say Hanbury's tackle on him was one of the worst you have seen is an absolute joke.Hanbury dragged him to the ground no more.

Condorman (Dublin) - 30/11/2017 10:57:53    2064093

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Replying To Condorman:  "You are correct about Coen not marking him but to say Hanbury's tackle on him was one of the worst you have seen is an absolute joke.Hanbury dragged him to the ground no more."
Drama queen all the tipp lads have halos over there heads there all angels.

bud14 (Galway) - 30/11/2017 11:52:01    2064102

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Replying To bud14:  "Drama queen all the tipp lads have halos over there heads there all angels."
*their

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGM89Y3ubuM

Go to 4:30 in this clip and tell me again it was just a drag down

tiobraid (Tipperary) - 30/11/2017 12:05:11    2064104

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Anyone would have pulled him down considering the way he was playing...what he done though wasn't manly (it was cowardly). A similar tackle in rugby would come with an automatic 2 month ban I'd guess. It was definitely the most dangerous tackle I've seen on a hurling field. Maher's tackle on Canning wasn't even a free so I'm not sure how the hell you can compare the two. Also, considering one tackle was to win a line ball and the other was to stop a certain goal...it's hardly like for like. Canning also went off with a hamstring injury later in the half, which by all accounts he came into the game with so your point is a bit ridiculous
It's not sour grapes as I would have pulled Callinan down in the same situation...and I'm not for one second saying it changed the outcome of the game but he overstepped the mark.
When you consider the whole helmet thing this year, its crazy there wasn't a ban"
I suppose Maher's pull on Michael Rice's hand wasn't a free either when he more or less finished Rice's playing career. How would that compare to Hanbury's pulling of Callinan to the ground? Maher's pull across J Flynn in this year's AISF wasn't given either, that doesn't mean it wasn't a deliberate and dangerous foul. I have seen Callinan getting away with lots of dirty strokes. Canning's tearing of an ankle ligament in last year's AISF came from a push in the back. Galway didn't even get a free from it, a free that would have more than likely drawn the game. Keep the Tipp blinkers on!

baire (Galway) - 30/11/2017 12:06:23    2064105

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