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Can the GAA withstand the PR from other sports?

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Replying To Soma:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=if_in_doubt:  "Yes GreenandRed all them things happen and more, in fact I'd say cheating in rugby is worse than most other sports with some incredible unsporting examples recently. Just curious as to what difference there is between laws and rules in a sporting context?

Soma (UK) - 28/11/2017


Depends whether you're a gentleman or a thug apparently..."
Not at all. Plenty of bending and breaking laws when a ref is unaware without resorting to thuggery. Breaking a rule is less serious than breaking a law. It's a good question though re rugby rules or laws, I have no clue why It's like that. It's been rugby laws and not rules for a long time. A hooker at home used to bind with one arm, using his free hand to stop the opposing front row seeing the ball put in. More humorous than malicious!"
Rugby, soccer and cricket all have laws rather than rules. The reality is it makes no difference whether they are called laws or rules, just some people think it gives a sport more gravitas if they say laws rather than rules."]You mean Ormond? No matter what he posts here some people like to have a go at him. For no good reason as far as I can see.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - 28/11/2017 18:37:17    2063926

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Replying To Soma:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=if_in_doubt:  "Yes GreenandRed all them things happen and more, in fact I'd say cheating in rugby is worse than most other sports with some incredible unsporting examples recently. Just curious as to what difference there is between laws and rules in a sporting context?

Soma (UK) - 28/11/2017


Depends whether you're a gentleman or a thug apparently..."
Not at all. Plenty of bending and breaking laws when a ref is unaware without resorting to thuggery. Breaking a rule is less serious than breaking a law. It's a good question though re rugby rules or laws, I have no clue why It's like that. It's been rugby laws and not rules for a long time. A hooker at home used to bind with one arm, using his free hand to stop the opposing front row seeing the ball put in. More humorous than malicious!"
Rugby, soccer and cricket all have laws rather than rules. The reality is it makes no difference whether they are called laws or rules, just some people think it gives a sport more gravitas if they say laws rather than rules."]Some people ? Can you not mention who? I didn't read anyone saying rugby has more gravitas if they say laws rather than rules.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - 28/11/2017 21:35:27    2063936

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To Soma:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "[quote=if_in_doubt:  "Yes GreenandRed all them things happen and more, in fact I'd say cheating in rugby is worse than most other sports with some incredible unsporting examples recently. Just curious as to what difference there is between laws and rules in a sporting context?

Soma (UK) - 28/11/2017


Depends whether you're a gentleman or a thug apparently..."
Not at all. Plenty of bending and breaking laws when a ref is unaware without resorting to thuggery. Breaking a rule is less serious than breaking a law. It's a good question though re rugby rules or laws, I have no clue why It's like that. It's been rugby laws and not rules for a long time. A hooker at home used to bind with one arm, using his free hand to stop the opposing front row seeing the ball put in. More humorous than malicious!"
Rugby, soccer and cricket all have laws rather than rules. The reality is it makes no difference whether they are called laws or rules, just some people think it gives a sport more gravitas if they say laws rather than rules."]Some people ? Can you not mention who? I didn't read anyone saying rugby has more gravitas if they say laws rather than rules."]Name everyone who thinks like that? That would be a fair undertaking! But it is the case, some rugby supporters often correct anyone who says rules instead of laws despite not being able to describe the difference. I was speaking in a more general sense but yes on here Ormo is a good example, I still don't understand what he means in the original post. Many people don't realise that soccer also has laws, most people just refer to the offside rule etc.

Soma (UK) - 28/11/2017 22:59:55    2063948

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To Soma:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "[quote=if_in_doubt:  "Yes GreenandRed all them things happen and more, in fact I'd say cheating in rugby is worse than most other sports with some incredible unsporting examples recently. Just curious as to what difference there is between laws and rules in a sporting context?

Soma (UK) - 28/11/2017


Depends whether you're a gentleman or a thug apparently..."
Not at all. Plenty of bending and breaking laws when a ref is unaware without resorting to thuggery. Breaking a rule is less serious than breaking a law. It's a good question though re rugby rules or laws, I have no clue why It's like that. It's been rugby laws and not rules for a long time. A hooker at home used to bind with one arm, using his free hand to stop the opposing front row seeing the ball put in. More humorous than malicious!"
Rugby, soccer and cricket all have laws rather than rules. The reality is it makes no difference whether they are called laws or rules, just some people think it gives a sport more gravitas if they say laws rather than rules."]You mean Ormond? No matter what he posts here some people like to have a go at him. For no good reason as far as I can see."]Green and Red from County Mayo
Tomsmith here from County Cavan the home of GAA

This post has strayed into Rugby and Soccer discussion.
well I feel that the GAA should have a very Vocal PR person in each club.
It seems far easier for other sports to get headlines in the Audio and Print media example being the bombardment before a 5 to 1 hiding that a team got. Day and night we were bombed by the media about our chances to make it to a WCF. Well I see the same here, where some people are flat out promoting the beautiful game and all you hear is that a SCOUT is coming over from England and sure wee Jimmy and Johnny may be picked up by MU, Ev , or MC , indeed the new ones are Celtic. Wee Biddies and Mary-annes are now in demand by teams from the mainland but it is mainly Dubs that transfer there.
Let the GAA promote its games properly and our Youth will play our games

tomsmith (Cavan) - 30/11/2017 15:15:38    2064125

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I agree with Tom. On Sunday & Monday, RTE Radio1 & Newstalk were giving full-on previews of the 'upcoming' Six Nations. It's months away FFS!!!

keeper7 (Longford) - 30/11/2017 17:54:06    2064156

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Replying To keeper7:  "I agree with Tom. On Sunday & Monday, RTE Radio1 & Newstalk were giving full-on previews of the 'upcoming' Six Nations. It's months away FFS!!!"
Keeper 7 from away over in Longford

Tomsmith here from Cavan Town the home of Cavan Gaels

Keeper I fully agree with you that the two broadcasters you named spouted out 6 Nations stuff.
Another morning broadcaster has two panellist regularly on it one from a strong Soccer and one from Rugby.
Sure you would think if dident beat the Dames that the whole world was going to stop. All the Hype aboiut whether well paid players would perform or not,
Different to GAA players who, after an All Ireland are back in the County the next day ( exception was when Cavan beat Kerry away over in Newyork 1947) .

tomsmith (Cavan) - 01/12/2017 10:02:03    2064190

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Keeper 7 from away over in Longford

Tomsmith here from Cavan Town the home of Cavan Gaels

Keeper I fully agree with you that the two broadcasters you named spouted out 6 Nations stuff.
Another morning broadcaster has two panellist regularly on it one from a strong Soccer and one from Rugby.
Sure you would think if dident beat the Dames that the whole world was going to stop. All the Hype aboiut whether well paid players would perform or not,
Different to GAA players who, after an All Ireland are back in the County the next day ( exception was when Cavan beat Kerry away over in Newyork 1947) ."
Newstalk invariably ignore the club hurling & football championships once the intercounty All-Irelands are over. Des Cahill went overload the other day on a "thrilling nil-all draw" for the Rep. of Ireland women's soccer team - one that, by all accounts, Holland should've won 4-0.

keeper7 (Longford) - 01/12/2017 13:43:13    2064219

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Replying To keeper7:  "Newstalk invariably ignore the club hurling & football championships once the intercounty All-Irelands are over. Des Cahill went overload the other day on a "thrilling nil-all draw" for the Rep. of Ireland women's soccer team - one that, by all accounts, Holland should've won 4-0."
The Rep of Ireland women's team were rank outsiders against a Dutch team that AFAIK are European champions. This time last year, the Irish women's team weren't even being provided with jerseys for training or had proper training facilities. They have come a long way in a short period of time. They deserved every praise they got by Des and others in the media.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - 01/12/2017 18:57:50    2064240

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "The Rep of Ireland women's team were rank outsiders against a Dutch team that AFAIK are European champions. This time last year, the Irish women's team weren't even being provided with jerseys for training or had proper training facilities. They have come a long way in a short period of time. They deserved every praise they got by Des and others in the media."
The GAA had a really good summer last year. Loads and loads of good matches and good p.r. One thing i think though hits the games is playing all big matches in Croker, it is huge. Taking the games out side of Dublin will help the weaker counties and fill the smaller stadia.

galwayford (Galway) - 02/12/2017 21:04:35    2064287

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Replying To galwayford:  "The GAA had a really good summer last year. Loads and loads of good matches and good p.r. One thing i think though hits the games is playing all big matches in Croker, it is huge. Taking the games out side of Dublin will help the weaker counties and fill the smaller stadia."
It's also spread some money around the country. I don't mean the county boards, not sure what participating counties get and what headquarters get for games. The local businesses around the grounds, hotels, B&Bs, taxis, restaurants, pubs, shops etc would benefit by extra business. There would be a local feelgood factor and publicity for the GAA. Plus GAA gets some government funding, partly paid by taxpayers. Any extra money for local businesses around matches would give a return in tax revenue.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - 03/12/2017 10:19:20    2064298

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