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GAA got a serous lift from last nights farce. A lot of young impressionable lads could have been lost to soccer next summer if we had of qualified. As it happens, they'll do well to draw crowds for the next few Euro qualifiers whenever that is.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 15/11/2017 22:06:17
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Replying To realdub: "GAA got a serous lift from last nights farce. A lot of young impressionable lads could have been lost to soccer next summer if we had of qualified. As it happens, they'll do well to draw crowds for the next few Euro qualifiers whenever that is." The future of the GAA is surely safe when it needn't bother promoting it's games but can rely on the demise of the National soccer team to do the job for them. Only impressionable lads though, GAA probably wouldn't interest girls? They'll surely not be influenced by Premier League or Champions league or the inevitable World Cup coverage? They must be delighted that another's sport misfortune will have impressionable lads across all counties abandoning their soccer gear because they're bound to take up GAA now. Christmas has surely come early for the GAA and not a penny more spent.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7325 - 15/11/2017 23:19:22
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There is another element to this.More and more people are getting sick of professional sport and its wild excesses.The Gaa must remain its amatuar and community base and it will go from strength to strength.
jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1443 - 16/11/2017 08:40:11
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Replying To GreenandRed: "The future of the GAA is surely safe when it needn't bother promoting it's games but can rely on the demise of the National soccer team to do the job for them. Only impressionable lads though, GAA probably wouldn't interest girls? They'll surely not be influenced by Premier League or Champions league or the inevitable World Cup coverage? They must be delighted that another's sport misfortune will have impressionable lads across all counties abandoning their soccer gear because they're bound to take up GAA now. Christmas has surely come early for the GAA and not a penny more spent." Green and Red from County Mayo
Tomsmith here from County Cavan.
That is not what is being said at all that the apparent demise of the Ireland/Uk based International soccer team is a boost to the GAA.
One has to look at Soccer it is a business that the clubs change hands on a regular basis and the clubs PR machine is a professional run outfit.
The GAA which is voluntary and depend on volunteers have to contend with this strong force of PR ing to get its members.
So Green and red just to put you in the picture, the relentless PR campaign that sports other than GAA made us of prior to a game on Tuesday evening was severe and in Hurricane terms it would be a force 9 or storm force 10
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3855 - 16/11/2017 09:11:40
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Replying To tomsmith: "Tomsmith here from County Cavan
I just wonder can the GAA withstand the PR drive from other sports. It has been relentless over the past week with loads of air time given to other major sports and past heroic act played over and over .
Thank God since I started to write this post I am told that the pressure has somewhat diminished but other sports still have a very strong PR machine working for them.
I say let the GAA waken up and promote our National game to the young of our country" Out of the 3000 odd posts you have, has there ever been a good one?
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7882 - 16/11/2017 09:15:42
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Replying To tomsmith: "Green and Red from County Mayo
Tomsmith here from County Cavan.
That is not what is being said at all that the apparent demise of the Ireland/Uk based International soccer team is a boost to the GAA.
One has to look at Soccer it is a business that the clubs change hands on a regular basis and the clubs PR machine is a professional run outfit.
The GAA which is voluntary and depend on volunteers have to contend with this strong force of PR ing to get its members.
So Green and red just to put you in the picture, the relentless PR campaign that sports other than GAA made us of prior to a game on Tuesday evening was severe and in Hurricane terms it would be a force 9 or storm force 10" Your thread is an anti non-GAA sports thread. Ireland lost a soccer match on Tuesday night. No more, no less. It benefits the GAA in no way whatsoever. Just makes the tiny minority who love GAA but dislike other sports something to laugh about. When the top brass of their own organisation have disenfranchised the so-called weaker counties with their Super 8 plan will the same people who blame GAAs woes take their heads out of the sand? Kids going around wearing the jersies of Super 8 counties, not their own, because their own county's standards were ignored and they barely get a mention on TV or media. The GAA only care about PR for the top counties. They shouldn't be surprised when potential young supporters lose interest in GAA and go to other sports. They couldn't encourage them more in that direction if they hired a load if buses and drove them there themselves.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7325 - 16/11/2017 10:35:53
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Replying To GreenandRed: "The future of the GAA is surely safe when it needn't bother promoting it's games but can rely on the demise of the National soccer team to do the job for them. Only impressionable lads though, GAA probably wouldn't interest girls? They'll surely not be influenced by Premier League or Champions league or the inevitable World Cup coverage? They must be delighted that another's sport misfortune will have impressionable lads across all counties abandoning their soccer gear because they're bound to take up GAA now. Christmas has surely come early for the GAA and not a penny more spent." Lads,boys,girls, whatever. And I didn't say they don't need to promote, but it helps when the soccer is in the doldrums.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 16/11/2017 14:57:05
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Replying To realdub: "Lads,boys,girls, whatever. And I didn't say they don't need to promote, but it helps when the soccer is in the doldrums." It does but they need to do a bit more I think.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7325 - 16/11/2017 15:56:39
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I agree that rugby has a huge advantage over soccer. Soccer is truly international, and ultra-competitive, while rugby is only played seriously in a few countries (almost all ex-British colonies), but still has that international component. It's easier to be a big fish in such a small pond
befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 16/11/2017 16:05:52
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Granted that the IRFU have more money but they manage to get a positive media spin at every opportunity and I think they're smart at it. Going out of the last World Cup was a downer but in the same week they got plenty of coverage of players kissing babies at the airport. I can't figure out why the League of Ireland didn't capitalise the feel good factor of Euro 2016 where plenty of ex-LOI players were involved and later Dubdalk playing well in the Europa League.
There probably isn't a GAA club without a Facebook and Twitter account to get their news out, publicise fundraisers etc. They live in 2017 and live in the real world. On a national or county level why don't we promote or county hurlers or footballers more? Let children know 'There's Mickey Burke, local football and hurling hero, played for Meath for years for not a bob just pride in the jersey. The Ronaldos and Dan Carters are fine sportsmen but they're not a part of us'. I honestly wonder watching kids going round in Barca and Real heresies do they realise the difference?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7325 - 16/11/2017 16:38:17
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Must be winter....there is a thread about whether the GAA has a future........................roll on spring time and the leagues and we have something real to chat about
witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 16/11/2017 17:12:19
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Granted that the IRFU have more money but they manage to get a positive media spin at every opportunity and I think they're smart at it. Going out of the last World Cup was a downer but in the same week they got plenty of coverage of players kissing babies at the airport. I can't figure out why the League of Ireland didn't capitalise the feel good factor of Euro 2016 where plenty of ex-LOI players were involved and later Dubdalk playing well in the Europa League.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:4178 - 16/11/2017 16:38:17
How exactly could they capitalise?
I don't think you understand just how tight things are at the vast majority of LoI clubs. The aim is survival and there's no other money available, let alone volunteer power as that's all being used to keep the show on the road.
LoI clubs have spent decades trying to entice people to watch the league. Most have given up chasing fans and are just doing what they've always done knowing that there'll always be a certain appetite for live football in this country.
There's very little that individual clubs can do beyond what they're doing at the moment as they can't throw good money after bad trying to entice people who have no interest in live football in this country. They also cannot throw precious volunteer hours after it either.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13703 - 16/11/2017 18:04:52
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Replying To MesAmis: "Granted that the IRFU have more money but they manage to get a positive media spin at every opportunity and I think they're smart at it. Going out of the last World Cup was a downer but in the same week they got plenty of coverage of players kissing babies at the airport. I can't figure out why the League of Ireland didn't capitalise the feel good factor of Euro 2016 where plenty of ex-LOI players were involved and later Dubdalk playing well in the Europa League.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:4178 - 16/11/2017 16:38:17
How exactly could they capitalise?
I don't think you understand just how tight things are at the vast majority of LoI clubs. The aim is survival and there's no other money available, let alone volunteer power as that's all being used to keep the show on the road.
LoI clubs have spent decades trying to entice people to watch the league. Most have given up chasing fans and are just doing what they've always done knowing that there'll always be a certain appetite for live football in this country.
There's very little that individual clubs can do beyond what they're doing at the moment as they can't throw good money after bad trying to entice people who have no interest in live football in this country. They also cannot throw precious volunteer hours after it either." A mate of mine, a Pat's supporter, told me that the prize money for winning the league wasn't much more than the cost to register for the league? The standard of football is better than most people think, though I've not been at a game since early 90s. Just see the odd game or highlights on TV. Is it naive to think that some professionals might want to give their old League of Ireland clubs a hand with some free publicity? Some of their former colleagues are proper dedicated sportsmen, working part-time and signing on in the off season to play the game they love.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7325 - 16/11/2017 20:02:01
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Replying To GreenandRed: "The future of the GAA is surely safe when it needn't bother promoting it's games but can rely on the demise of the National soccer team to do the job for them. Only impressionable lads though, GAA probably wouldn't interest girls? They'll surely not be influenced by Premier League or Champions league or the inevitable World Cup coverage? They must be delighted that another's sport misfortune will have impressionable lads across all counties abandoning their soccer gear because they're bound to take up GAA now. Christmas has surely come early for the GAA and not a penny more spent." Ha, very well said GreenandRed!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1901 - 16/11/2017 20:19:19
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Replying To GreenandRed: " Replying To MesAmis: "Granted that the IRFU have more money but they manage to get a positive media spin at every opportunity and I think they're smart at it. Going out of the last World Cup was a downer but in the same week they got plenty of coverage of players kissing babies at the airport. I can't figure out why the League of Ireland didn't capitalise the feel good factor of Euro 2016 where plenty of ex-LOI players were involved and later Dubdalk playing well in the Europa League.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:4178 - 16/11/2017 16:38:17
How exactly could they capitalise?
I don't think you understand just how tight things are at the vast majority of LoI clubs. The aim is survival and there's no other money available, let alone volunteer power as that's all being used to keep the show on the road.
LoI clubs have spent decades trying to entice people to watch the league. Most have given up chasing fans and are just doing what they've always done knowing that there'll always be a certain appetite for live football in this country.
There's very little that individual clubs can do beyond what they're doing at the moment as they can't throw good money after bad trying to entice people who have no interest in live football in this country. They also cannot throw precious volunteer hours after it either." A mate of mine, a Pat's supporter, told me that the prize money for winning the league wasn't much more than the cost to register for the league? The standard of football is better than most people think, though I've not been at a game since early 90s. Just see the odd game or highlights on TV. Is it naive to think that some professionals might want to give their old League of Ireland clubs a hand with some free publicity? Some of their former colleagues are proper dedicated sportsmen, working part-time and signing on in the off season to play the game they love."
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts:5530
Tomsmith here from County Cavan
Flaker you have some check on you for chiding senior Poster Tomsmith for the quality of his posts over the past 10 years.
I will not lower myself in making a comment on your utterences,
Greenandred from away over in County Mayo I feel that the Oirish that play GAA would be a little different to people that play the beautiful game and that a fellow would turn over at halftime and play for the opposition if the money was right . Whereas Rugby fellows are by nature rought and tumble professional fellows who can obtain a release of engery via the oval ball.
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3855 - 16/11/2017 20:26:06
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Ha, very well said GreenandRed!" PoolSturgeon
Tomsmith here
Always remember that the GAA is our National Game that people made the ultimate sacrifice supporting years ago in Croke Park
Isint that right Ulsterman
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3855 - 16/11/2017 20:35:20
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Replying To tomsmith: " Replying To GreenandRed: "[quote=MesAmis: "Granted that the IRFU have more money but they manage to get a positive media spin at every opportunity and I think they're smart at it. Going out of the last World Cup was a downer but in the same week they got plenty of coverage of players kissing babies at the airport. I can't figure out why the League of Ireland didn't capitalise the feel good factor of Euro 2016 where plenty of ex-LOI players were involved and later Dubdalk playing well in the Europa League.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:4178 - 16/11/2017 16:38:17
How exactly could they capitalise?
I don't think you understand just how tight things are at the vast majority of LoI clubs. The aim is survival and there's no other money available, let alone volunteer power as that's all being used to keep the show on the road.
LoI clubs have spent decades trying to entice people to watch the league. Most have given up chasing fans and are just doing what they've always done knowing that there'll always be a certain appetite for live football in this country.
There's very little that individual clubs can do beyond what they're doing at the moment as they can't throw good money after bad trying to entice people who have no interest in live football in this country. They also cannot throw precious volunteer hours after it either." A mate of mine, a Pat's supporter, told me that the prize money for winning the league wasn't much more than the cost to register for the league? The standard of football is better than most people think, though I've not been at a game since early 90s. Just see the odd game or highlights on TV. Is it naive to think that some professionals might want to give their old League of Ireland clubs a hand with some free publicity? Some of their former colleagues are proper dedicated sportsmen, working part-time and signing on in the off season to play the game they love."
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts:5530
Tomsmith here from County Cavan
Flaker you have some check on you for chiding senior Poster Tomsmith for the quality of his posts over the past 10 years.
I will not lower myself in making a comment on your utterences,
Greenandred from away over in County Mayo I feel that the Oirish that play GAA would be a little different to people that play the beautiful game and that a fellow would turn over at halftime and play for the opposition if the money was right . Whereas Rugby fellows are by nature rought and tumble professional fellows who can obtain a release of engery via the oval ball."]You already did comment. Also, you can't spell.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 16/11/2017 21:09:49
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Replying To tomsmith: " Replying To GreenandRed: "[quote=MesAmis: "Granted that the IRFU have more money but they manage to get a positive media spin at every opportunity and I think they're smart at it. Going out of the last World Cup was a downer but in the same week they got plenty of coverage of players kissing babies at the airport. I can't figure out why the League of Ireland didn't capitalise the feel good factor of Euro 2016 where plenty of ex-LOI players were involved and later Dubdalk playing well in the Europa League.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:4178 - 16/11/2017 16:38:17
How exactly could they capitalise?
I don't think you understand just how tight things are at the vast majority of LoI clubs. The aim is survival and there's no other money available, let alone volunteer power as that's all being used to keep the show on the road.
LoI clubs have spent decades trying to entice people to watch the league. Most have given up chasing fans and are just doing what they've always done knowing that there'll always be a certain appetite for live football in this country.
There's very little that individual clubs can do beyond what they're doing at the moment as they can't throw good money after bad trying to entice people who have no interest in live football in this country. They also cannot throw precious volunteer hours after it either." A mate of mine, a Pat's supporter, told me that the prize money for winning the league wasn't much more than the cost to register for the league? The standard of football is better than most people think, though I've not been at a game since early 90s. Just see the odd game or highlights on TV. Is it naive to think that some professionals might want to give their old League of Ireland clubs a hand with some free publicity? Some of their former colleagues are proper dedicated sportsmen, working part-time and signing on in the off season to play the game they love."
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts:5530
Tomsmith here from County Cavan
Flaker you have some check on you for chiding senior Poster Tomsmith for the quality of his posts over the past 10 years.
I will not lower myself in making a comment on your utterences,
Greenandred from away over in County Mayo I feel that the Oirish that play GAA would be a little different to people that play the beautiful game and that a fellow would turn over at halftime and play for the opposition if the money was right . Whereas Rugby fellows are by nature rought and tumble professional fellows who can obtain a release of engery via the oval ball."]What century is it on your planet?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7325 - 16/11/2017 21:26:13
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I think planet is stretching it, G&R, Narnia is the closest he gets to reality!
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 16/11/2017 21:46:15
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Replying To tomsmith: " Replying To GreenandRed: "[quote=MesAmis: "Granted that the IRFU have more money but they manage to get a positive media spin at every opportunity and I think they're smart at it. Going out of the last World Cup was a downer but in the same week they got plenty of coverage of players kissing babies at the airport. I can't figure out why the League of Ireland didn't capitalise the feel good factor of Euro 2016 where plenty of ex-LOI players were involved and later Dubdalk playing well in the Europa League.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:4178 - 16/11/2017 16:38:17
How exactly could they capitalise?
I don't think you understand just how tight things are at the vast majority of LoI clubs. The aim is survival and there's no other money available, let alone volunteer power as that's all being used to keep the show on the road.
LoI clubs have spent decades trying to entice people to watch the league. Most have given up chasing fans and are just doing what they've always done knowing that there'll always be a certain appetite for live football in this country.
There's very little that individual clubs can do beyond what they're doing at the moment as they can't throw good money after bad trying to entice people who have no interest in live football in this country. They also cannot throw precious volunteer hours after it either." A mate of mine, a Pat's supporter, told me that the prize money for winning the league wasn't much more than the cost to register for the league? The standard of football is better than most people think, though I've not been at a game since early 90s. Just see the odd game or highlights on TV. Is it naive to think that some professionals might want to give their old League of Ireland clubs a hand with some free publicity? Some of their former colleagues are proper dedicated sportsmen, working part-time and signing on in the off season to play the game they love."
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts:5530
Tomsmith here from County Cavan
Flaker you have some check on you for chiding senior Poster Tomsmith for the quality of his posts over the past 10 years.
I will not lower myself in making a comment on your utterences,
Greenandred from away over in County Mayo I feel that the Oirish that play GAA would be a little different to people that play the beautiful game and that a fellow would turn over at halftime and play for the opposition if the money was right . Whereas Rugby fellows are by nature rought and tumble professional fellows who can obtain a release of engery via the oval ball."]I think someone's "checking" you, Flaker! Be afraid, be very afraid.............squeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal little piggy!!
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 16/11/2017 21:51:09
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