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Cracking day of football alright - Love this time of year.

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 13/11/2017 17:29:54    2062130

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Left to you this would be the fixture calendar

June Dublin 1st team v Dublin 2nd team every second week in Croke Park
July Mayo v Kerry played every 2nd week to be played in Corks new stadium
Just to keep the nordies happy Tyrone v Whoever else is playing well in August but play it Croke park no dodgy pitches allowed
Final Dublin v Mayo/Kerry/OR Nordie in September

You didn't come on and give your opinion as you put it ,you had a pop at those that had the temerity to say they enjoyed the games at the weekend, as for your attendance at club games fair play, question would be do you go because you enjoy them? or do you go in order to give out and slate ? , my club and every club has those attendees"
What a load of childish waffle your spouting as again you know full well I am one of only three or four on the Dublin page who openly looks forward to and enjoys the national league and the Leinster championship so its a bit rich coming from you to suggest I am a big game merchant.
I came on and have an opinion I didn't respond to any one poster in particular.
I responded to the idea of the thread and my reasons if you don't agree that's your choice but to try attack me because you don't agree is sad. I am not attacking any club at all I am pointing out there is many problems with the club game and playing games this time of year is one of them.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2017 18:48:24    2062144

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Hill we can't all afford pitches like crokepark I'm afraid, and we can't do anything about the weather either."
I never suggested you could.
I know it might seem mad to some but how about playing the competition at a better time of year

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2017 19:01:54    2062145

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Your right re viewing figures no doubt , club games aren't everyone's cup of tea as this thread has proven , but as usual the topic sentiment of the topic and essence of the topic get twisted into a which is better club or county , which is the bulshi7 of it all no clown even on here would be stupid enough to think the quality of a club game matches a county game, what if I'm reading posts correctly is being said THIS weekend we had some cracking fixtures , which we did, the county game offers some thing the club game doesn't me personally I believe that works both way , which for me is win win"
You obviously have selective reading as there is even a discussion talking about replacing inter county and if it was only clubs how it would work out but yeah that goes against your point so you decided to leave that out again.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2017 19:11:35    2062146

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "no i wasnt in aughrim yesterday and i had a feeling what happened would happen, as you can tell on the dublin page i stated judes possibly would have beaten vincents had they kept discipline and not had two men sent off, ballymun had been the best team in dublin but never turned up in the final and must have been kicking themselves then but must be sick now. vincents were given a false belief the night of the dublin final and many on the dublin page thaught i was mad for saying so and that i was even anti vincents. im not begridging rathnew anything so i dont see why you think that, i just dont believe games played on heavy boggy pitches are the spectacles some are making out just because you get close scorelines and the odd upset."
So if you had a feeling what happened yesterday would happen why do you call it an upset? I was at the Dublin final and Vincent's were in complete control with Connolly running the show which was worth the price of admission alone. But you wanted him sent off for a nothing incident if he done as much spouting as you do on here he would be suspended for life going by your interpretation of the rules

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 13/11/2017 19:38:35    2062148

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "I never suggested you could.
I know it might seem mad to some but how about playing the competition at a better time of year"
I know what you're saying but we only get about 5/6 months of decent weather in any given year and that's usually when intercounty is played so unless we do a bi yearly thing where we do clubs championship one summer and intercounty the next then we're goosed.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/11/2017 19:38:57    2062149

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I know what you're saying but we only get about 5/6 months of decent weather in any given year and that's usually when intercounty is played so unless we do a bi yearly thing where we do clubs championship one summer and intercounty the next then we're goosed."
Why not play them both simultaneously?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2017 21:37:10    2062162

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Replying To dubarra:  "So if you had a feeling what happened yesterday would happen why do you call it an upset? I was at the Dublin final and Vincent's were in complete control with Connolly running the show which was worth the price of admission alone. But you wanted him sent off for a nothing incident if he done as much spouting as you do on here he would be suspended for life going by your interpretation of the rules"
Vincent's won 4 of the last 5 Leinster titles, because I have a feeling it may happen doesn't mean it wasn't an upset which it clearly was.
now your accusing me of being anti Connolly man this is some weird place these days as being honest seems to infuriate people and that's what I was doing regarding Connolly being honest he should have got a black card for deliberately running twenty metres down to the opposition player to verbally abuse him after he scored a goal and that player was the cause of giving away the goal, is that not a black card offence when the ref was only a few metres away and seen and heard the incident and immediately ran over blowing his whistle to try stop anything escalating. The match itself was a non event it was terrible game that never got going at all, if I had of paid in i would have been looking for the admission few back.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 13/11/2017 21:47:24    2062166

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Vincent's won 4 of the last 5 Leinster titles, because I have a feeling it may happen doesn't mean it wasn't an upset which it clearly was.
now your accusing me of being anti Connolly man this is some weird place these days as being honest seems to infuriate people and that's what I was doing regarding Connolly being honest he should have got a black card for deliberately running twenty metres down to the opposition player to verbally abuse him after he scored a goal and that player was the cause of giving away the goal, is that not a black card offence when the ref was only a few metres away and seen and heard the incident and immediately ran over blowing his whistle to try stop anything escalating. The match itself was a non event it was terrible game that never got going at all, if I had of paid in i would have been looking for the admission few back."
Agree it was a poor affair considering the talent that was on show

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 13/11/2017 22:36:30    2062181

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "I never suggested you could.
I know it might seem mad to some but how about playing the competition at a better time of year"
You can't guarantee decent weather anytime in this country. The conditions on Sat night in Omagh were perfect, dry with no wind wheras The weather in August & September were awful in the north west.

Strange & all as it may seem but I enjoy watching live football at this time of the year & for me there is no doubt that club football between the top club teams reaches places its more illustrious cousin can't reach.

The crowd are more passionate, in a lot of cases they know all the players personally & may be related to some of them. The standard of play is generally quite high & there is a bit more freedom to play.

I still enjoy county football & always will but club football at this time of year has a magic all of its own & I for one am glad of it.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 13/11/2017 22:48:56    2062182

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Haha what would we be left with every week then a mix of all out brawls with teams being reduced to 10 players each meets ballyraget celebrations meets games having players sent off before the ball is thrown in.
some people are fantasists on here, a couple of close games and club is the be all and end all now"
The club has been the be all and end all since approximately 1884. It is what the GAA is about. It's essence. It's core characteristic. It's attitudes like yours that is causing so much damage. Either that or you are winding people up.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 13/11/2017 23:53:40    2062195

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Why not play them both simultaneously?"
You'd be missing your intercounty players hill.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/11/2017 00:14:51    2062199

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "What a load of childish waffle your spouting as again you know full well I am one of only three or four on the Dublin page who openly looks forward to and enjoys the national league and the Leinster championship so its a bit rich coming from you to suggest I am a big game merchant.
I came on and have an opinion I didn't respond to any one poster in particular.
I responded to the idea of the thread and my reasons if you don't agree that's your choice but to try attack me because you don't agree is sad. I am not attacking any club at all I am pointing out there is many problems with the club game and playing games this time of year is one of them."
your argument is baffling..it seems your annoyed because one of our clubs lost..the reality is the time to play a team like vincents in leinster is early on before they get on a bit of a run

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 14/11/2017 00:29:40    2062200

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Why not play them both simultaneously?"
ehh how could players who are amateur play with that schedule?..the amount of injuries would be crazy

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 14/11/2017 00:30:51    2062201

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "You can't guarantee decent weather anytime in this country. The conditions on Sat night in Omagh were perfect, dry with no wind wheras The weather in August & September were awful in the north west.

Strange & all as it may seem but I enjoy watching live football at this time of the year & for me there is no doubt that club football between the top club teams reaches places its more illustrious cousin can't reach.

The crowd are more passionate, in a lot of cases they know all the players personally & may be related to some of them. The standard of play is generally quite high & there is a bit more freedom to play.

I still enjoy county football & always will but club football at this time of year has a magic all of its own & I for one am glad of it."
Each to their own my friend
And the comment wasn't weather it was pitch related, this time of year you will always get heavy surfaces that's the point I made its not about good football it's about survival, I rather personally good football.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/11/2017 19:04:15    2062352

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Replying To bennybunny:  "The club has been the be all and end all since approximately 1884. It is what the GAA is about. It's essence. It's core characteristic. It's attitudes like yours that is causing so much damage. Either that or you are winding people up."
Spare me the sanctimonious b.s.
that line is wearing thin as if the club is the be all and end all then why since 1884 have those there be more stray dogs at club league games than people up and down the country.
people have always voted with their feet and they much prefer county football because the quality is way ahead, it's played at a proper time of year.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/11/2017 19:09:22    2062355

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "You'd be missing your intercounty players hill."
Some games yes that's true but should 99% of club players be made sit around waiting for one or two of their 30 panel to be available? I certainly don't think it's fair that they do that as the county players are already playing games as it is it's only the other 99% who are missing out.
I have said it before on here a master's fixture list may out the entire year for clubs and play the game's accordingly if that means a team misses a countu player so be it, they don't hold games up for non county players who can't make it so why should there be preferential treatment given to a minority?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/11/2017 19:13:48    2062357

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Replying To alano12:  "your argument is baffling..it seems your annoyed because one of our clubs lost..the reality is the time to play a team like vincents in leinster is early on before they get on a bit of a run"
You obviously didnt read anything I posted if you have that idea I suggest you read first

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/11/2017 19:15:07    2062358

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Some games yes that's true but should 99% of club players be made sit around waiting for one or two of their 30 panel to be available? I certainly don't think it's fair that they do that as the county players are already playing games as it is it's only the other 99% who are missing out.
I have said it before on here a master's fixture list may out the entire year for clubs and play the game's accordingly if that means a team misses a countu player so be it, they don't hold games up for non county players who can't make it so why should there be preferential treatment given to a minority?"
All very good in theory. Not only that, other sports seem to do a better job (in Cork anyway). My experience though (from being an occasional board delegate) is that games get cancelled for any old reason. Accepting and sticking to a master fixture list is common sense but we need a change of culture in the GAA to implement one. Unfortunately. Meanwhile clubs get screwed while intercontinental season ever more clogs up summer months.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 14/11/2017 20:04:50    2062363

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Some games yes that's true but should 99% of club players be made sit around waiting for one or two of their 30 panel to be available? I certainly don't think it's fair that they do that as the county players are already playing games as it is it's only the other 99% who are missing out.
I have said it before on here a master's fixture list may out the entire year for clubs and play the game's accordingly if that means a team misses a countu player so be it, they don't hold games up for non county players who can't make it so why should there be preferential treatment given to a minority?"
I agree with a lot you say hill but a lot of country clubs couldn't do without their intercounty players for junior intermediate and senior county championship.

The likes of Dr crokes and Nemo probably would have enough players and could plod along but sleachtneil crossmaglen corrofin castlebar probably couldn't.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 15/11/2017 02:03:02    2062405

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