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Kilcar pull out of U21 Championship

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Replying To ModernMaharaja:  "Gweedore agreed with Kilcar to postpone the game untill a later date, the county board the threatened Gweedore with expulsion to if they refused to play"
If that is true then I hope the Co Board stay well away from any celebrations Kilcar might be enjoying before the end of the year.
If this was St Eunans you may be sure they would have been looked after & rightly so.
One rule for the big boys.....

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 07/11/2017 13:45:28    2060993

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "If that is true then I hope the Co Board stay well away from any celebrations Kilcar might be enjoying before the end of the year.
If this was St Eunans you may be sure they would have been looked after & rightly so.
One rule for the big boys....."
Yeah shocking stuff really plus robs us of what would be an intriguing U-21 tie.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 07/11/2017 19:03:32    2061063

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Replying To ModernMaharaja:  "Gweedore agreed with Kilcar to postpone the game untill a later date, the county board the threatened Gweedore with expulsion to if they refused to play"
Do your really believe that?

PastandPresent (Donegal) - Posts: 345 - 07/11/2017 21:40:11    2061093

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Replying To PastandPresent:  "Do your really believe that?"
100% , because i know its a fact. I Was told by officials from both clubs

ModernMaharaja (Donegal) - Posts: 55 - 08/11/2017 08:25:24    2061128

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Replying To ModernMaharaja:  "100% , because i know its a fact. I Was told by officials from both clubs"
Funny that,as I was told by two Gweedore players on sunday at the U16 Match that they were prepared to go to letterkenny on sunday to get the fixture official by turning up,until they were informed that Kilcar withdrew from the competition. They did say fair play to Kilcar by withdrawing they avoided holding up the competition as it was late enough in the season as it is!

PastandPresent (Donegal) - Posts: 345 - 08/11/2017 09:34:46    2061139

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Gweedore did agree to delay the game but word came back that the game had to be played and yes they were told they had to turn up therfore they were prepared to go to the game but they had a good idea Kilcar were not going to travel and rightly so... So good luck to Kilcar in the Ulster Semi Final on Saturday and a massive good luck to Gaothdobhair on Sunday

glasagusban (Donegal) - Posts: 229 - 08/11/2017 13:32:06    2061206

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A certain Ed Byrne from the CCC has come out with lame excuses regarding the the shafting of the Kilcar U 21 team. Looks like the heat from your more illustrious neighbours has forced you and your cohorts to do some damage control by saying that Kilcar would be favoured over other teams in the county that have progressed in Ulster,by granting them a postponement. Kilcar should be afforded every opportunity in what is truly a unique year for them by the County board/CCC to progress in Ulster and in the U21 championship.How often does a Donegal club get to a senior Ulster club championship semi final? Best of luck to them and spare a thought for the lads that are not involved with the senior club team. Donegal CCC have gotten away with this type of heavy handed stuff before with lesser prominent teams than Kilcar,shame on them.

thelowball (USA) - Posts: 400 - 09/11/2017 22:22:29    2061507

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Replying To thelowball:  "A certain Ed Byrne from the CCC has come out with lame excuses regarding the the shafting of the Kilcar U 21 team. Looks like the heat from your more illustrious neighbours has forced you and your cohorts to do some damage control by saying that Kilcar would be favoured over other teams in the county that have progressed in Ulster,by granting them a postponement. Kilcar should be afforded every opportunity in what is truly a unique year for them by the County board/CCC to progress in Ulster and in the U21 championship.How often does a Donegal club get to a senior Ulster club championship semi final? Best of luck to them and spare a thought for the lads that are not involved with the senior club team. Donegal CCC have gotten away with this type of heavy handed stuff before with lesser prominent teams than Kilcar,shame on them."
Excellent post. I read the same statement and was thinking why even bother issuing it? I am sure Kilcar would have played in the immediate aftermath of tomorrows game. Rightly tomorrow gets priority. Really wishing Kilcar all the best tomrrow. I really do believe they have a great chance against what is an excellent club side in S'neil.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 10/11/2017 13:14:15    2061596

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Hard luck Kilcar, they put up a really brave fight against a top class Slaughtneil side. It was a great match to watch with Slaughtneil taking their goal chances with Kilcar missing theirs. Ciaran McGinley going off early in the 2nd half was a blow. Special mention has to go to Patrick McBrearty who was outstanding.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 11/11/2017 20:45:13    2061753

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Experience won the day but that will prove a proper test for both sides moving forward. Though Kilcar might not have Mickey H who would be a big loss for Kilcar looking forward in terms of Donegal though Gweedore are coming.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 11/11/2017 23:56:47    2061761

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Hard luck Kilcar, they put up a really brave fight against a top class Slaughtneil side. It was a great match to watch with Slaughtneil taking their goal chances with Kilcar missing theirs. Ciaran McGinley going off early in the 2nd half was a blow. Special mention has to go to Patrick McBrearty who was outstanding."
Patrick great at taking points but very poor at taking goal chances,needs to work on being a bit more clinical

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1059 - 12/11/2017 00:59:06    2061764

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Replying To gunman:  "Patrick great at taking points but very poor at taking goal chances,needs to work on being a bit more clinical"
Slaughtneil deserving of their win if only because they had that bit more composure which comes from experience.

Important that Kilcar hold on to the experienced lads as I think they will learn a lot from this experience no one more so than Barry Doherty who has had a great first year but will have learned from being up against the brilliant Mickey Moran.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 12/11/2017 15:10:29    2061807

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "Slaughtneil deserving of their win if only because they had that bit more composure which comes from experience.

Important that Kilcar hold on to the experienced lads as I think they will learn a lot from this experience no one more so than Barry Doherty who has had a great first year but will have learned from being up against the brilliant Mickey Moran."
I suppose their is no point talking now but wouldn,t it have been great to have Mickey Moran as part of Donegal,s set up.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1059 - 12/11/2017 15:45:39    2061816

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The 3rd quarter push from S'neil was very impressive. There they showed their experience and nous. Also as already pointed out they took their chances when they came and their economy rate of chances to scores was excellent. It was a really good game to watch and definitely worthy of an Ulster final status even though it was a semi final. The scoreline bore no relation to the game that it was. There was no way S'neil were a 6 point better side. Kilcar wasted some great goal chances but credit to the Derry men's keeper who was excellent. Looking forward this is a relatively young Kilcar team who I think will be contesting and winning many county finals in the years to come. I also think they will make their mark in the Ulster club too especially with the experience of this year behind them.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 12/11/2017 19:24:16    2061903

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Replying To panamasam:  "The 3rd quarter push from S'neil was very impressive. There they showed their experience and nous. Also as already pointed out they took their chances when they came and their economy rate of chances to scores was excellent. It was a really good game to watch and definitely worthy of an Ulster final status even though it was a semi final. The scoreline bore no relation to the game that it was. There was no way S'neil were a 6 point better side. Kilcar wasted some great goal chances but credit to the Derry men's keeper who was excellent. Looking forward this is a relatively young Kilcar team who I think will be contesting and winning many county finals in the years to come. I also think they will make their mark in the Ulster club too especially with the experience of this year behind them."
The first goal was critical and I Think he was allowed to get past 3 or 4 Kilcar men far too easily

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1059 - 12/11/2017 19:37:27    2061908

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Replying To gunman:  "Patrick great at taking points but very poor at taking goal chances,needs to work on being a bit more clinical"
"Patrick great at taking points but very poor at taking goal chances,needs to work on being a bit more clinical

ridiculous statement , he missed 1 goal chance last now and now all of a sudden he's poor at it

SMH

ModernMaharaja (Donegal) - Posts: 55 - 12/11/2017 23:43:56    2061975

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Replying To ModernMaharaja:  ""Patrick great at taking points but very poor at taking goal chances,needs to work on being a bit more clinical

ridiculous statement , he missed 1 goal chance last now and now all of a sudden he's poor at it

SMH"
I was not talking about this match in particular .Patrick is a brilliant player and in great form recently but that does not mean he can't improve on certain aspects of his game and become even better.He needs to work hard on his right foot as would Michael Murphy on his left foot.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1059 - 13/11/2017 11:44:59    2062040

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a really good showing from kilcar against one of the best club teams in ireland. goals win matches and slaughtneil took theirs and kilcar will rue the failure to not take at least one of their goal chances. I think kilcar will win the donegal championship at least a couple of more times in the next few years. what may mitigate against them in terms of winning ulster is their lack of physique , particularly in the middle third, which is necessary for winter football, also the fact that the depth of their panel is not as strong as the teams who regularly challenge for provincial honours.An excellent campaign from the county champions who did the county proud.

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 920 - 13/11/2017 15:10:53    2062102

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A few observations on Saturday night's game...

I think Kilcar should have played Mark McHugh as a sweeper and brought Stephen McB out to the middle from the start. Slaughtneil could have been out of site after 15 minutes the way the Kilcar full back line was left unprotected. Also Stephen did well making the play when he came out after Ciaran McGinley went off.

Somehow, I think, the lambasting they got after the County final made them go for an approach that was a bit too cavalier.

Eoin McHugh was fouled nearly every time he started on a run. And very heavily as well. The ref was very lenient with some of the Slaughtneil fouling.

Ciaran McGinley should have been subbed as soon as he was injured. It was a late tackle (foul) by Patsy Bradley when Ciaran scored his point. He was obviously injured fairly badly. That point but Kilcar ahead. By the time Ciaran left the pitch they were 5 or 6 behind I think.

I suspect that Ryan McHugh was not 100%. Surely he would have attempted the two 45s in the first half. Also he won a free way out on the left in the 2nd half and called Paddy out to take it. Paddy scored it but it was a very difficult kick for a left footer. Ryan normally takes those.

Slaughtneil exposed a lack of pace in the Kilcar defence at times but with a small club you just have to live with that. All the more reason to protect them with a sweeper.

Having said all that, it was a fantastic game of football and a credit to both teams. And the Kilcar boys can hold their heads high. Hopefully, the experience will stand to them but winning Donegal is not easy. The great young Gweedore team will be a year older next year and will take some stopping.

railwayman (Donegal) - Posts: 17 - 13/11/2017 16:24:12    2062116

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Replying To panamasam:  "Excellent post. I read the same statement and was thinking why even bother issuing it? I am sure Kilcar would have played in the immediate aftermath of tomorrows game. Rightly tomorrow gets priority. Really wishing Kilcar all the best tomrrow. I really do believe they have a great chance against what is an excellent club side in S'neil."
It is funny the way I read the statement made by him on behalf of the CCC reads about right, Kilcar are shouting about how they will play without County Players next year, they had a full squad and still would not play u21 what a Joke. Get off the moral high ground, I see you don't follow much Donegal Club and Ulster Club since 2010 Donegal teams have competed in almost every Ulster Semi Final. Milford played with 8 players in semi final of u21 and won and only lost yesterday in Ulster by 1 point, they want to play football instead of moaning. Kilcar knew they would not beat Gaoth Dobhair so took the easy option did not field and blame the CCC. The CCC have awarded games every time a club did not play this year and could do nothing else but award the game to GD, those of us still involved know the problems in Club football and funny enough its guys from the sideline mouthing about stuff they know nothing about that causes half the problems.

dllover (Donegal) - Posts: 263 - 13/11/2017 23:50:51    2062194

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