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Best of luck to st.johns tomorrow be great to see a Sligo team in a connacht final, hopefully markerveic will be playable! You'd have to back them as favourites with Claregalway playing today, but they'll be a tricky outfit with Danny Cummins & Co. Mitchells very poor against mohill today, so I'm sure tour will fancy themselves for an upset next week. pointman2007 (Sligo) - Posts: 188 - 04/11/2017 21:08:26 2060494 Link
For me this management team are set to push this Sligo team further than they ever have before, that can only be a good thing, hearing lots of positives. Psychologically I feel the players will know deep down more was in them last few years and when prepared to the max physically a lot of confidence will be gained from that alone. This is quite an interesting few weeks ahead with Balymote in the final and Tourlestrane going in to the lion's den, for me listening to OHara, McGowan and his players they haven't been quite where they want to be performance wise, is that because they haven't had to be at their best, they will need to be this weekend, just need tour to get up to 5th gear and we are in boost territory. I still have great memories of Harps beating ballaghdereen in markievicz all those years ago, curry getting to Connacht final etc.. Johns were very competitive so things looking up at club level. Don't get me wrong across the board we need to improve but there is the signs of the beginning of kick with all the recent schools/underage teams coming through for the clubs. Great interview from Murphy on GAA.ie, lets hope he gets plenty of gametime. Kernan said he outperformed most of big names. U15s had a great weekend down in Kerry by the looks of all the photos and great talk from Keiran Donaghy. Hopefully he passed on sage at all costs winning mentality to our players. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 06/11/2017 16:36:14 2060825 Link
Replying To Sligonian: "For me this management team are set to push this Sligo team further than they ever have before, that can only be a good thing, hearing lots of positives. Psychologically I feel the players will know deep down more was in them last few years and when prepared to the max physically a lot of confidence will be gained from that alone. This is quite an interesting few weeks ahead with Balymote in the final and Tourlestrane going in to the lion's den, for me listening to OHara, McGowan and his players they haven't been quite where they want to be performance wise, is that because they haven't had to be at their best, they will need to be this weekend, just need tour to get up to 5th gear and we are in boost territory. I still have great memories of Harps beating ballaghdereen in markievicz all those years ago, curry getting to Connacht final etc.. Johns were very competitive so things looking up at club level. Don't get me wrong across the board we need to improve but there is the signs of the beginning of kick with all the recent schools/underage teams coming through for the clubs. Great interview from Murphy on GAA.ie, lets hope he gets plenty of gametime. Kernan said he outperformed most of big names. U15s had a great weekend down in Kerry by the looks of all the photos and great talk from Keiran Donaghy. Hopefully he passed on sage at all costs winning mentality to our players." Interesting thread and in the interest of the theme h ere I won't be anyways negative but here is my additions to this list. 1. Young coaches Some fantastic Young, inspired and information hungry coaches are being produced at an excellent rate across all divisions within the county. I hope the c.c utilise the new Sligo management team to help coach these young coaches further 2. Winning mentality being developed encouraged and driven by the schools system which I'll eventually feed through to the county set up 3. Some top quality young footballers being produced and more importantly they have size and physical presence something we lacked in the last number of years. 4. Strength and conditioning within club's is becoming more prevalent finally!!!! This will help bring on players, increase standards and help nurture a new culture of success. 5. Marginal gains are being implemented within county set ups and club. This helps players develop, situation growth, give a realistic goal and bring about the start of a monumental shift forward These are my little 2 cents worth to add to the debate rich dublin (None) - Posts: 425 - 06/11/2017 21:03:51 2060873 Link
Replying To rich dublin: "Interesting thread and in the interest of the theme h ere I won't be anyways negative but here is my additions to this list. 1. Young coaches Some fantastic Young, inspired and information hungry coaches are being produced at an excellent rate across all divisions within the county. I hope the c.c utilise the new Sligo management team to help coach these young coaches further 2. Winning mentality being developed encouraged and driven by the schools system which I'll eventually feed through to the county set up 3. Some top quality young footballers being produced and more importantly they have size and physical presence something we lacked in the last number of years. 4. Strength and conditioning within club's is becoming more prevalent finally!!!! This will help bring on players, increase standards and help nurture a new culture of success. 5. Marginal gains are being implemented within county set ups and club. This helps players develop, situation growth, give a realistic goal and bring about the start of a monumental shift forward These are my little 2 cents worth to add to the debate" That's great to hear Rich, a few questions to maybe get a little more info, 1. Just interested, what makes them fantastic in specifics? 2. Agreed- how do you see this filtering through to county setups? 3. Agreed was impressed with the size and mobility of this years minors. 4. What evidence have you seen of this and how is it introduced and carried out? 5. Marginal gains is interesting, how is this being introduced in Sligo? I wonder alot where and when our next Connacht Title will come from, obviously senior carries more weight, you'd like to think we will achieve that within the next 10 years. What can we do now to maximise this conveyor belt of underage about to come through? How can we get ahead of the curve in any area? For me I have studied the human mind the last few yrs and I have a masters in NLP which in simple terms is based on Neuroplasticity, we can rewire our brains and overcome many issues and achieve success, health etc... Its so powerful, much deeper than sports psychology imo. Imagine having players programmed for success, expecting it with no doubts but also hard working. For me in Connacht finals the mind is the only obstacle because every Sligo players goes into it with varying degrees of history, fear, nerves etc.. nerves are ok once you allow that feeling rather than fight, one of the type players I encountered in the u21 was those that cared too much and completely overcome with nerves on the day impacting performance massively, just think we need to take care of players mental well being more but also enhancing performance by brain rehearsing success, individual and collective. What makes teams stay calm when pressure is on to get over the line not get spooked when ahead (look at Roscommon when they went 7 pts up early against mayo, they got spooked). It goes much further with techniques and depth etc.. but teams that are used to winning trophies can even when in decline or not as good mostly win because they carry the aura of that feeling their whole body and mind, there are ways teams like Sligo could actually match that belief system in its totality without ever having achieved it before. The mind is so powerful in working for or against your goals. I just feel we need to address this now in Sligo. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 07/11/2017 13:55:55 2060994 Link
Pass me the sick bucket eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1663 - 07/11/2017 17:38:43 2061045 Link
Eoinog you don't need to read here if you don't like it but i fear your obsession with my posts is too great, your clearly a negative person so any positivity would make you uncomfortable, why not start your own I hate Sligonian thread and channel all your obsessive negativity in there so I and others can avoid. Lets keep the glass half full on here until at least the season starts, thanks in advance. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 07/11/2017 20:16:06 2061078 Link
Replying To Sligonian: "Eoinog you don't need to read here if you don't like it but i fear your obsession with my posts is too great, your clearly a negative person so any positivity would make you uncomfortable, why not start your own I hate Sligonian thread and channel all your obsessive negativity in there so I and others can avoid. Lets keep the glass half full on here until at least the season starts, thanks in advance." If the glass is half full then it must be half empty also. Your posts have become a platform for pseudo intellectual rubbish and any early merit is know lost in your foggy pretentious blather. Notice no comment made about St.Johns inability to put away a team less than 24 hours after they had played their Co final. Reality my dear boy. Maggiepie (Sligo) - Posts: 231 - 07/11/2017 20:56:08 2061087 Link
Some of the couches i have seen at schools and underage level are very dynamic use alot of very advanced training methods and use vwry progress philosophies. I don't name names but they to me are the future. Marginal gains are being used through the county by these coaches and more. It's in it's basic form using even the smallest possible gain as a tool. So if you look at things like diet s&c ect as big gains you would look at things like sleep pattern logs players mindset log ect used currently by the county team as marginal gains . Also simple things like visualisation are being used all over the county by alot of good young coaches and this is being ingrained in alot of the up and coming players to the point that they are now looking for the simplest things to give them a marginal gain each day week ect. S&c is being widely used by most teams now if you check with most gyms they have there busiest period now with gas teams all over the county. It's about 4 years behind mayo always and roscommon but still a good development going forward. Connaght council added to this and encouraged it with s&c sources being run twice in last year with 10 coaches from sligo at the last phase 1 course. rich dublin (None) - Posts: 425 - 07/11/2017 23:39:13 2061108 Link
Sligonian this is hardly a resource to channel your inner shrink. Why not put together a presentation of your research/skills and where you could see this ultimately improving our mental capacity to win trophies. Then you should write to the CB and/or the Sligo underage board to see if you can present. This is hardly the place to show off your intellectual ability and what you have learned on your post graduate program. Lets get back to talking about football. I was very disappointed to see St Johns lose. This was a great chance for a Sligo team to get to a final and possibly win. CG were there for the taking and they really should've taken them giving the circumstances. Lets hope Tourlestrane can take Castlebar this Sunday. Mohill ran them close I see but maybe that might have gave CBar the kick they needed republican (Sligo) - Posts: 326 - 08/11/2017 17:28:54 2061260 Link
Looks like sligonian wants a team of nerds that know all about the mentality of winning games and the psychology of losing games. If he took a look at the way the U.21 Championship is currently ran he would see a lot of SCR and wo. Players need football on a pitch not a blackboard and lessons. There is good work done in Scarden but it's outside on the pitch not inside looking out. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1663 - 08/11/2017 20:27:17 2061297 Link
That's great to hear on coaching front Rich, very positive. Sligo Masters v Mayo Masters All Ireland Final in Balymote at 2.45 on Saturday best of luck Summerhill 1st yrs beat Rice College 5-5 to 4-7 this week, Summerhill juveniles beat Colmans today, learning to beat Mayo teams early Tourlestrane v Castlebar at 2pm in McHale park is the big one, hopefully Tour can perform well Is there an ignore button we can use on here :) Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 09/11/2017 17:07:12 2061427 Link
What harm if Sligonian is thinking outside the box? Not enough people like this in our County. Rich Dublin I must say I agree with you with regards coaching. We have some fine young coaches coming through here in Sligo. Higgins being a brilliant one in Shamrock Gaels and Sligo u16s. Then out west you've O'Connor from Farnans who was with the minors. Attractas have a very good management team with McGee, Henry and McDonagh. In the North you have young Waters from Molaise and Summerhill. All these are under 30. Question, are the County Board doing anything to upskill these lads even more? We keep talking about developing our players more in the underage teams. Is the same happening with our brilliant young Coaches NewSligofan (Sligo) - Posts: 258 - 09/11/2017 19:17:19 2061457 Link
NSF Connacht council are constantly running programs and one evening sessions which is usually heavily attended by Sligo coach's. the Sligo CC have run a few sessions for coaches over the last year and I believe more are being planned for 2018. its usually the same fellas there though so I would like to see more of a variety of coaches attending. some of the trainers and coaches I have seen I have been very very impressed with. constantly looking to brainstorm with each other and learn from each other I find it invigorating. while people may want instant success this is not possible or likely, what I look at is the u14, u15, u16 teams at both club and county and the same in the schools and look at the type of coach and player being developed. trust me the future of Sligo football is bright if we continue down this path. a lot may only see some championship club games and some league and championship county games and make conclusions from there. for me who goes to a vast amount of games I look a the bigger picture. I look at the potential rather than the current reality. I look back at history both far and recent and look at the fact hat in the 00's when we where extremely competitive at senior level we had terrible underage teams bar one minor team. we constantly got hammered in schools football especially when we played at the A level. our u16 teams where poor and unstructured and our coaches where really old school, poor understanding of tactics and had no understanding or interest in developing the player. yet we where all really happy because we had a decent senior team. the future is far far brighter now with the consistent and excellent development work being put in by some wonderful coaches. this will pay off in the years to come which I would easily perform rather than have a decent senior team with a poor structure to support it tubberman2010 (Sligo) - Posts: 22 - 10/11/2017 11:31:48 2061562 Link
Not much to be positive about this weekend. U16s well beaten in Manning Cup Shield. Tourlestrane well beaten by Castlebar Mitchels. Masters beaten by Mayo. Same old same old ..... SligoCody (Sligo) - Posts: 74 - 12/11/2017 16:57:58 2061846 Link
Any potential players on the masters that cud b called back in to the senior fold?:) Uptipp87 (Sligo) - Posts: 4 - 12/11/2017 21:37:04 2061946 Link
Reality of life, not always positive is it SligoCody. Ups and Downs. I suppose this thread my intention is to show the hope that is there for more good days to come and the good things being done to make them happen. But as I alluded to previously there are areas of opportunities with new approaches available that can give us an edge if we can think outside the box. :) uptipp87 we might need a time machine tbf, that Sligo masters team has some of the greats of Sligo football in it, we were lucky to have them in the first place, heard taylor hasn't lost his pace;) Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 13/11/2017 16:55:47 2062121 Link
St Attractas 1-12 St Jarlaths 1-12 Connacht senior A league result today Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 15/11/2017 20:27:45 2062566 Link
Replying To Sligonian: "St Attractas 1-12 St Jarlaths 1-12 Connacht senior A league result today" I don't know if that's a positive. Attract as have took bad beatings of Roscommon in earlier games NewSligofan (Sligo) - Posts: 258 - 16/11/2017 10:25:32 2062621 Link
Do you not think matching the best in Galway is a positive? I do, without knowing the exact standard and loading of the teams it's always a good sign. Actually Attractas for me is extraordinary what theyve done last few years with the demograph and competing with all boys schools Summerhill 4-16 rice college 5-2 juvenile A Connacht league result today, serious result, must have some great 14/15 yr olds coming through All these results can only be positive and testament to the hard work but quality of coaching going on and players themselves having the talent and practicing working on their game Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 16/11/2017 15:07:27 2062690 Link
Replying To Sligonian: "Do you not think matching the best in Galway is a positive? I do, without knowing the exact standard and loading of the teams it's always a good sign. Actually Attractas for me is extraordinary what theyve done last few years with the demograph and competing with all boys schools Summerhill 4-16 rice college 5-2 juvenile A Connacht league result today, serious result, must have some great 14/15 yr olds coming through All these results can only be positive and testament to the hard work but quality of coaching going on and players themselves having the talent and practicing working on their game" Sorry my message came across wrong. I just meant it doesn't seem to be all plain sailing so far this season. No doubt the club fixtures being a mess this year hasn't helped them. What are Attractas doing differently to be so competitive in Connacht the last few years? Outside help? Better numbers? NewSligofan (Sligo) - Posts: 258 - 16/11/2017 17:59:16 2062733 Link