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We had been posting about this comp in the Minor Championship thread but Admin have locked that so... ... Although St Pats Maghera have won every age group to date with this particular group of players I think An Dun have a great chance tomorrow. Even with one or two injury concerns the An Dun squad looked to have cover for most positions in recent matches, bar nets were the county overall is weak. Gonna stick my neck out and predict a 3 or 4 point win for An Dun. Match is at 7.30 tomorrow at the Dub Arena pitch hopefully the colleges and clubs of the county get out in decent numbers to support the team downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 567 - 26/10/2017 11:19:36 2058100 Link
Replying To downredhand: "We had been posting about this comp in the Minor Championship thread but Admin have locked that so... ... Although St Pats Maghera have won every age group to date with this particular group of players I think An Dun have a great chance tomorrow. Even with one or two injury concerns the An Dun squad looked to have cover for most positions in recent matches, bar nets were the county overall is weak. Gonna stick my neck out and predict a 3 or 4 point win for An Dun. Match is at 7.30 tomorrow at the Dub Arena pitch hopefully the colleges and clubs of the county get out in decent numbers to support the team" I can only see a Maghera win but you never know in hurling. Good luck lads. RedDog68 (Down) - Posts: 291 - 26/10/2017 13:18:05 2058151 Link
Replying To downredhand: "We had been posting about this comp in the Minor Championship thread but Admin have locked that so... ... Although St Pats Maghera have won every age group to date with this particular group of players I think An Dun have a great chance tomorrow. Even with one or two injury concerns the An Dun squad looked to have cover for most positions in recent matches, bar nets were the county overall is weak. Gonna stick my neck out and predict a 3 or 4 point win for An Dun. Match is at 7.30 tomorrow at the Dub Arena pitch hopefully the colleges and clubs of the county get out in decent numbers to support the team" With Coulter out, who's going to cover centre back? WRT the keeper, key positions need coached, but I get the impression that specialist coaching isn't a big thing in a lot of the development squads in general. A good keeper is worth his weight in gold and with some of us that's a pretty penny. bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 26/10/2017 13:40:36 2058165 Link
Replying To bricktop: "With Coulter out, who's going to cover centre back? WRT the keeper, key positions need coached, but I get the impression that specialist coaching isn't a big thing in a lot of the development squads in general. A good keeper is worth his weight in gold and with some of us that's a pretty penny." Mc Carthy from your club will prob slide over to 6 with the cnr back from Bredagh coming out to cover him. downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 567 - 26/10/2017 14:36:22 2058201 Link
Replying To downredhand: "Mc Carthy from your club will prob slide over to 6 with the cnr back from Bredagh coming out to cover him." Liam will do well in any position, but I'm not a big fan or making loads of positional moves to cover for one player, can upset the balance of a team. Best of luck lads and no injuries for next wednesday night, priorities and all that. bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 26/10/2017 14:45:41 2058205 Link
Very big night tomorrow night in Down Hurling, probably the best chance that we've had to win the Mageean as an An Dun side. A lot of these lads have been playing with each other at development squads from they were 14, very few drifted away. With the Celtic Challenge and the skill these boys have as a group makes their chances a lot higher. Defensively they are a great side, Eoin Kelly in full back has had a great season for club and county, as has Matt McAreavey in corner back; a very fast and highly skilled player. McCarthy and Coulter run the half back line with ease although Coulter will be a massive miss with the broken thumb. Phelim and Caolan in the centre run a great game, with young teggart's stickwork being phenomenal all year, a great hurler to watch. Up top we have the most attacking set of forwards in the game at their age group. With the likes of McCrickard, Costello, Prenter, Blair and young Ryan Coulter these boys will run riot against a side like Maghera. Goals will be scored. Real belief in a side that has grea up together, i say The Down men by 5. History makers. onionbag27 (Down) - Posts: 14 - 26/10/2017 19:54:11 2058339 Link
Looking forward to the game tonight and, having seen the Down men in action, I am confident they will come out on top here. An Dun by 7 points! THEMOLE2 (Down) - Posts: 1615 - 27/10/2017 09:59:25 2058485 Link
Replying To onionbag27: "Very big night tomorrow night in Down Hurling, probably the best chance that we've had to win the Mageean as an An Dun side. A lot of these lads have been playing with each other at development squads from they were 14, very few drifted away. With the Celtic Challenge and the skill these boys have as a group makes their chances a lot higher. Defensively they are a great side, Eoin Kelly in full back has had a great season for club and county, as has Matt McAreavey in corner back; a very fast and highly skilled player. McCarthy and Coulter run the half back line with ease although Coulter will be a massive miss with the broken thumb. Phelim and Caolan in the centre run a great game, with young teggart's stickwork being phenomenal all year, a great hurler to watch. Up top we have the most attacking set of forwards in the game at their age group. With the likes of McCrickard, Costello, Prenter, Blair and young Ryan Coulter these boys will run riot against a side like Maghera. Goals will be scored. Real belief in a side that has grea up together, i say The Down men by 5. History makers." It's always good to get games at a high level at this time of year, but we've the pick of a whole county whereas the others are schools, so don't be losing the run of ourselves. bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 27/10/2017 10:53:53 2058505 Link
Replying To bricktop: "It's always good to get games at a high level at this time of year, but we've the pick of a whole county whereas the others are schools, so don't be losing the run of ourselves." Bricktop to be fair now Mahgera have effectively the pick of Derry.........as for the Antrim schools all probably drawing from the same number of hurling teams that the An Dun squad is as well, certainly in terms of the team ...............the begrudgery at times on here is unreal PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 27/10/2017 11:46:07 2058526 Link
Replying To PaudieSull1: "Bricktop to be fair now Mahgera have effectively the pick of Derry.........as for the Antrim schools all probably drawing from the same number of hurling teams that the An Dun squad is as well, certainly in terms of the team ...............the begrudgery at times on here is unreal" C&P and St Louise's Ballymena would be splitting the big NA clubs down the middle, not to mention St Killians in the mix as well. Belfast is as much fragmented, but St Pat's I give you. They've the pick of Kevin Lynches all the way down. Begrudgery it isn't, it's context and as I said good that these lads are playing high level games at this time of year. bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 27/10/2017 12:37:26 2058547 Link
Don't believe everything you hear about the centre back being out injured.... cranfanatic (Down) - Posts: 114 - 27/10/2017 13:09:34 2058558 Link
Replying To cranfanatic: "Don't believe everything you hear about the centre back being out injured...." yeah young Coulter might just be the modern day Lazarus downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 567 - 27/10/2017 14:25:44 2058589 Link
Replying To downredhand: "yeah young Coulter might just be the modern day Lazarus" Some rubbish at the dub tonight. Down underage hurling really is in the gutter Thekid14 (Down) - Posts: 222 - 27/10/2017 21:35:39 2058715 Link
I tend to disagree an dun didnt disgrace themselves,a very strong maghera team who were physical and also can hurl,so fair play to the boys great effort,and maybe the future isnt too bleak crannumber2 (Down) - Posts: 334 - 27/10/2017 22:14:50 2058724 Link
Replying To Thekid14: "Some rubbish at the dub tonight. Down underage hurling really is in the gutter" Disgraceful comment and so detached from reality it's unreal......that group of lads won an all Ireland u17, and narrowly lost a minor final and a mageenan cup......great effort tonight, breaks went the way of a physically stronger St Pats side so fair play to them.......I was very proud of those young men and I believe they have a bright future ahead of them.......we have work to do in our conditioning for our underage squads but nothing that can't be worked upon, well done lads and unlucky.... PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 27/10/2017 22:41:16 2058726 Link
Down were well beat last night only for their number 11 who kept them in the game from frees there scoring from open play was extremely poor and there first touch was poor at this standard. The complete down half back line was over run and no changes was made here also it looked like down were only playing a 4 man forward line and the Derry school just kept their shape so they just swept up every ball. Down played their 14 & 12 in the back line it's getting like the football get all the players behind the ball very poor management decisions and again the down players not physically strong enough losted most of the dirty ball nosides (Down) - Posts: 239 - 28/10/2017 09:46:53 2058749 Link
Replying To Thekid14: "Some rubbish at the dub tonight. Down underage hurling really is in the gutter" Stupid, ignorant comment Kid. The players have given a great effort throughout the campaign and lost out to St Pats largely in terms of physicality, for instance I think st pats won all bar 1 ruck in their defence. .. The other significant difference was the directness of st pats' play which had the down full back line constantly under pressure whilst the slower build up from down allowed the Derry lads to get numbers back. My one criticism is that for the past 3 winters (including this 1) this particular bunch of players have been promised strength & conditioning programmes from the county which has not materialised, that unfortunately has let this group down. So if the county sees a future in these players then invest in them. downredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 567 - 28/10/2017 09:48:50 2058750 Link
Replying To Thekid14: "Some rubbish at the dub tonight. Down underage hurling really is in the gutter" Childish and downright ignorant comment. In fact, having looked at your other posts, you complain constantly about players, manager's, referees etc etc. You have nothing but negativity and in all honesty. Grow up! THEMOLE2 (Down) - Posts: 1615 - 28/10/2017 10:06:02 2058752 Link
Replying To nosides: "Down were well beat last night only for their number 11 who kept them in the game from frees there scoring from open play was extremely poor and there first touch was poor at this standard. The complete down half back line was over run and no changes was made here also it looked like down were only playing a 4 man forward line and the Derry school just kept their shape so they just swept up every ball. Down played their 14 & 12 in the back line it's getting like the football get all the players behind the ball very poor management decisions and again the down players not physically strong enough losted most of the dirty ball" Could of won the match if the number 11 didn't hit 6/7 Wides first half... RedDog68 (Down) - Posts: 291 - 28/10/2017 10:10:56 2058753 Link
Replying To RedDog68: "Could of won the match if the number 11 didn't hit 6/7 Wides first half..." One simple thing before singling out players and referring to numbers on players back remember these lads are minors or younger so they will make mistakes, they will have bad games from time to time but as a collective they have been fantastic all year......anyone who saw these lads beat Cross and Passion, St Killians etc would certainly not say that their hurling/touch was poor, far from it.........even the Maghera manager ahead of the game was talking about the quality and class of the An Dun teams hurling, last night the physically stronger St Pats team imposed themselves on the tighter/shorter pitch which was always a concern. The loss of their captain and centre back was also a massive loss....role reverse that for Maghera and there certainly would have been a different result.......those lads fought back from 8pts down to draw level and there was nothing in it right until the end, indeed inches separated them from the equalising goal right at the end......those are the breaks at this level but those lads got four top quality games during the competition which will be great for their development and they will learn from the experience. Final point agree totally with Down Redhand hopefully the S&C finally gets resolved for this group as that more than anything else was the winning of the game for Maghera, they had six lads who played in the all Ireland minor final last year and it showed........with about 10 of the starting team available next year along with two of the subs that came on then these lads will be back again. PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 28/10/2017 11:08:14 2058764 Link