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Replying To MeathWawa: "Am not sure what to believe with the players leaving. I believe they were not at training and that may be all there is to it. They may even have agreed with Andy to miss it. Only one that know are the players themselves and Andy - not us ( most of whom are looking for something negative to bash the current set up). If they have gone we will have to move on. Andy has a certain standard to try and bring meath back to where we should be and it involves a serious commitment from the players. Personally I think the 3 players mentioned will be in the squad come May and these comments will look silly. Up the Royal." And that my friend is common sense. Well said. I will post no more about it , it's only adding fuel to the bitter management bashers. If they gone they gone, we move on. If not, there will be some other conspiracy theories thrown out. Hon the royal royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/04/2018 08:43:33 2092959 Link
Replying To MeathWawa: "Am not sure what to believe with the players leaving. I believe they were not at training and that may be all there is to it. They may even have agreed with Andy to miss it. Only one that know are the players themselves and Andy - not us ( most of whom are looking for something negative to bash the current set up). If they have gone we will have to move on. Andy has a certain standard to try and bring meath back to where we should be and it involves a serious commitment from the players. Personally I think the 3 players mentioned will be in the squad come May and these comments will look silly. Up the Royal." And here is one from earlier in this thread. .. Replying To grahamc9897: "Is Donal Keoghan gone too" Apparently he be back for the championship, but definitely gone for the league....... So you seem spot on regarding the rumor mill. Let's be honest no one really knows who is gone or not. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/04/2018 09:01:57 2092961 Link
I'm not going to speculate who has or has not left the panel or what reasons. The best of luck to all still involved and indeed to all who have left. Having watched a significant amount of club football I will say that a lot of good players have left over the last 3 years for whatever reasons. Many of these are considerable better than many of what is now playing at present. You do not improve a teams by losing players and only a fool would suggest otherwise. Someone posted that there is no intensity in the club championship and others with little knowledge who attend only one or two matches per year are experts on club affairs. The championship is competitive, interesting, entertaining and every team or player with any ambition will want to win all matches. The guys who do not take the first round matches seriously will never win anything and have no championships under their belt, or are unlikely to ever have. Finally I wish all involved in all grades of football the very best going forward - it is still a amateur sport. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 14/04/2018 09:26:36 2092962 Link
Replying To browncows: "I'm not going to speculate who has or has not left the panel or what reasons. The best of luck to all still involved and indeed to all who have left. Having watched a significant amount of club football I will say that a lot of good players have left over the last 3 years for whatever reasons. Many of these are considerable better than many of what is now playing at present. You do not improve a teams by losing players and only a fool would suggest otherwise. Someone posted that there is no intensity in the club championship and others with little knowledge who attend only one or two matches per year are experts on club affairs. The championship is competitive, interesting, entertaining and every team or player with any ambition will want to win all matches. The guys who do not take the first round matches seriously will never win anything and have no championships under their belt, or are unlikely to ever have. Finally I wish all involved in all grades of football the very best going forward - it is still a amateur sport." The championship is competitive, interesting, entertaining and every team or player with any ambition will want to win all matches. Do you really think that?? Honestly, for the little amount of games I attend. There is no intensity until the knock out starts. Do you really believe that despite all the evidence to the contrary (and the views of Sean Boylan and others who know far more about it than you and I) that our club structure is abysmal, that you think it's perfect?? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/04/2018 10:05:41 2092964 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "The championship is competitive, interesting, entertaining and every team or player with any ambition will want to win all matches. Do you really think that?? Honestly, for the little amount of games I attend. There is no intensity until the knock out starts. Do you really believe that despite all the evidence to the contrary (and the views of Sean Boylan and others who know far more about it than you and I) that our club structure is abysmal, that you think it's perfect??" Its an opinion held by many and no individual know it all irrespective of their position. How many senior championship matches have you attended over last weekend? or did you see any?. You may be better off talking to guys who are playing championship football rather than what observers post. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 14/04/2018 11:30:45 2092970 Link
Replying To browncows: "I'm not going to speculate who has or has not left the panel or what reasons. The best of luck to all still involved and indeed to all who have left. Having watched a significant amount of club football I will say that a lot of good players have left over the last 3 years for whatever reasons. Many of these are considerable better than many of what is now playing at present. You do not improve a teams by losing players and only a fool would suggest otherwise. Someone posted that there is no intensity in the club championship and others with little knowledge who attend only one or two matches per year are experts on club affairs. The championship is competitive, interesting, entertaining and every team or player with any ambition will want to win all matches. The guys who do not take the first round matches seriously will never win anything and have no championships under their belt, or are unlikely to ever have. Finally I wish all involved in all grades of football the very best going forward - it is still a amateur sport." Well said browncows. Our club championship format is far from perfect as it has its structural problems but that doesn't mean it lacks intensity and competitiveness and this year's opening weekend of matches certainly didn't. Toney (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 14/04/2018 11:58:29 2092975 Link
I won't claim to know who is or isn't on the panel, but find it funny when lads dismiss departures with "Well he wasn't a starter anyway so no loss". Does that mean we only need 15 players in total on our championship panel? CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 14/04/2018 12:45:16 2092979 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "The championship is competitive, interesting, entertaining and every team or player with any ambition will want to win all matches. Do you really think that?? Honestly, for the little amount of games I attend. There is no intensity until the knock out starts. Do you really believe that despite all the evidence to the contrary (and the views of Sean Boylan and others who know far more about it than you and I) that our club structure is abysmal, that you think it's perfect??" It never fails to amuse me how uninformed people like royaldunne suggest the club championship structure is abysmal and that by changing it we will have better players at county level due to game intensity. I was at three games last weekend and there was plenty of intensity and good football .How does reducing the number of championship games help Meath football. With two championship games pencilled for April every year a lot of clubs would be finished for the season by the end of April if they lost both games. No logic in that. Colm O Rourke spoke eloquently about this very subject at a county board meeting earlier this year and delegates agreed with him on it. The club scene is in trouble In Meath and other counties as all focus goes on the county teams. Without a good club scene we wont attract good players to play GAA and our county set up will continue to decline. Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 14/04/2018 16:49:17 2092996 Link
Replying To Poormouth: "It never fails to amuse me how uninformed people like royaldunne suggest the club championship structure is abysmal and that by changing it we will have better players at county level due to game intensity. I was at three games last weekend and there was plenty of intensity and good football .How does reducing the number of championship games help Meath football. With two championship games pencilled for April every year a lot of clubs would be finished for the season by the end of April if they lost both games. No logic in that. Colm O Rourke spoke eloquently about this very subject at a county board meeting earlier this year and delegates agreed with him on it. The club scene is in trouble In Meath and other counties as all focus goes on the county teams. Without a good club scene we wont attract good players to play GAA and our county set up will continue to decline." It's pretty good in Westmeath, Kildare longford, Laois. Far better than Meath. But keep burying your head in the sand. It's a perfect system. Anyway all hail Gordon Elliott. What a man. I'll be having tiger roll for a month :). At least we can excel at horse racing in Meath. Hon the royal. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/04/2018 19:02:11 2093012 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "It's pretty good in Westmeath, Kildare longford, Laois. Far better than Meath. But keep burying your head in the sand. It's a perfect system. Anyway all hail Gordon Elliott. What a man. I'll be having tiger roll for a month :). At least we can excel at horse racing in Meath. Hon the royal." Please explain to me how the Westmeath and Kildare club championships are 'far better' than ours in Meath? This is not to rise you bit I'd like your honest answer to the above. RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 14/04/2018 22:04:43 2093033 Link
Replying To RoylerKing: "Please explain to me how the Westmeath and Kildare club championships are 'far better' than ours in Meath? This is not to rise you bit I'd like your honest answer to the above." Well a they are more competitive from the start. And not to make you a short answer but the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say. Look at more field, garrycastle lomans what they do in Leinster after a competitive championship in their respective competitions. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/04/2018 22:42:44 2093038 Link
Replying To RoylerKing: "Please explain to me how the Westmeath and Kildare club championships are 'far better' than ours in Meath? This is not to rise you bit I'd like your honest answer to the above." The Westmeath senior championship structure is only new and seems to favour the stronger teams. It sees two groups with six teams each. The teams that finish in the top three places in each group the previous year form a senior 1 group the following year. The rest of the teams including the reigning intermediate champions form a senior 2 group. The top two teams in senior 1 qualify for the semi finals, third and fourth qualify for the quarter finals and fifth and sixth are finished for another year. The top two teams in senior 2 qualify for the quarter finals, third and fourth are finished for another year and fifth and sixth go into a relegation final. Toney (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 14/04/2018 22:46:27 2093039 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Well a they are more competitive from the start. And not to make you a short answer but the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say. Look at more field, garrycastle lomans what they do in Leinster after a competitive championship in their respective competitions." The Westmeath championship is more competitive than the Meath championship? I see you're talking through your hoop AGAIN. I can't speak for Kildare but teams in the Westmeath championship took bigger hammerings than teams in the Meath championship last year. St Loman's hardly needed to break a sweat in the group stage on their way to winning a three in a row. After drawing with Shamrocks (I'm led to believe the first round of the championship is not important), Loman's beat Tyrrellspass by 17 points, Garrycastle by 11 points, Killucan by 23 points and Athlone by 14 points. The Westmeath or Kildare champions have faired better than the Meath champions in the Leinster stage in recent years but that doesn't necessarily mean they have stronger or more competitive club championships. Toney (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 14/04/2018 23:38:31 2093047 Link
Replying To Poormouth: "It never fails to amuse me how uninformed people like royaldunne suggest the club championship structure is abysmal and that by changing it we will have better players at county level due to game intensity. I was at three games last weekend and there was plenty of intensity and good football .How does reducing the number of championship games help Meath football. With two championship games pencilled for April every year a lot of clubs would be finished for the season by the end of April if they lost both games. No logic in that. Colm O Rourke spoke eloquently about this very subject at a county board meeting earlier this year and delegates agreed with him on it. The club scene is in trouble In Meath and other counties as all focus goes on the county teams. Without a good club scene we wont attract good players to play GAA and our county set up will continue to decline." Have to agree. Lot of nonsense talked about changing the Senior Championship format will improve Meath. Complete load of tripe. When we start producing more quality underage players and bring them through , get rid of horrer coaches over Meath Development squads or else get rid of Meath Development squads altogether because with shocking coaches over teams they offer no value, then The Meath Senior Championship and Senior Team will improve. Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 15/04/2018 02:56:39 2093053 Link
Replying To Toney: "The Westmeath championship is more competitive than the Meath championship? I see you're talking through your hoop AGAIN. I can't speak for Kildare but teams in the Westmeath championship took bigger hammerings than teams in the Meath championship last year. St Loman's hardly needed to break a sweat in the group stage on their way to winning a three in a row. After drawing with Shamrocks (I'm led to believe the first round of the championship is not important), Loman's beat Tyrrellspass by 17 points, Garrycastle by 11 points, Killucan by 23 points and Athlone by 14 points. The Westmeath or Kildare champions have faired better than the Meath champions in the Leinster stage in recent years but that doesn't necessarily mean they have stronger or more competitive club championships." Of course it doesn't. Yeraa yerra. Keep your head in the sand and keep treating clubs like mushrooms. Btw want one prime example of how club championship is so uncompetitive? Look at my cilles last year. Point proven !!! royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/04/2018 07:53:50 2093057 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Well a they are more competitive from the start. And not to make you a short answer but the proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say. Look at more field, garrycastle lomans what they do in Leinster after a competitive championship in their respective competitions." Again you're spoofing. It's plain to see you havent a clue. The Kildare clue championships have been completely revamped this year as club's voted for immediate change due a completely meaningless championship. RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 15/04/2018 09:51:13 2093061 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Of course it doesn't. Yeraa yerra. Keep your head in the sand and keep treating clubs like mushrooms. Btw want one prime example of how club championship is so uncompetitive? Look at my cilles last year. Point proven !!!" Another daft post to sum up your total lack of knowledge or understanding of the game. St Colmcille's mightn't have won a game in the championship last year but were competitive in them all. I recall them being narrowly beaten by Simonstown, Navan O'Mahony's and Seneschalstown. Point proven? You can't even get your point across. Keep on embarrassing yourself. Toney (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 15/04/2018 10:42:15 2093067 Link
O'Rourke has a very good article on the clubs today. If reducing the numbers of clubs competing in the championship improved the standard of football then every county would have a very easy task. They could reduce their format to 4 or even only two . The more teams playing at the higher level, the better. Laois may have one of two strong clubs but they were in a low Division. Derry have been in last two AI club finals and won many Ulster underage competitions but are now in Div 4. Their were AI's won in the 80's and no Leinster club won. You can take any set of flexible stats and use to make whatever point you want to believe or push. I agree with the previous poster and the point made by Talking_Sense, and add, in some cases the development squads are destroying some young players making them feel that they are top of the pile when in fact they are average players and no better than the ones who never reach a 'squad'. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 15/04/2018 11:45:22 2093076 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Of course it doesn't. Yeraa yerra. Keep your head in the sand and keep treating clubs like mushrooms. Btw want one prime example of how club championship is so uncompetitive? Look at my cilles last year. Point proven !!!" Cilles got to an all Ireland intermediate final so by your thinking that would make them the second best intermediate team in Ireland. However they won no games in the Meath senior championship last year which shows how difficult and competitive that championship is. Point proven!!! Poormouth (Meath) - Posts: 204 - 15/04/2018 14:11:05 2093090 Link
Replying To Poormouth: "Cilles got to an all Ireland intermediate final so by your thinking that would make them the second best intermediate team in Ireland. However they won no games in the Meath senior championship last year which shows how difficult and competitive that championship is. Point proven!!!" I am a huge cilles supporter. Can't believe you don't know that. They are my second club. And I was at vast majority of their games on that magical journey Look I'll leave it at this. If we keep doing the same thing and expecting different results then that is the definition of stupidity. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/04/2018 14:26:05 2093096 Link