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Replying To WEX98:  "If you believe that the sweeper system gives an advantage even when sacrificing an attacker, then surely your giving your opposition an advantage as they'll have a sweeper and six attackers."
the theory is you have 7 defenders,robbing peter to pay paul.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 03/08/2018 11:21:09    2128706

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Replying To WEX98:  "If you believe that the sweeper system gives an advantage even when sacrificing an attacker, then surely your giving your opposition an advantage as they'll have a sweeper and six attackers."
I think we had 9, 10 at times......against Westmeath it was ridiculous........no options to play the ball from defence, couldn't even hit sidelines up the field, had to go backwards all the time

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 381 - 03/08/2018 12:46:45    2128727

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If the CCCCCC agree to it we'll have some chance in the hurling next year. Davy has applied to see can we hurl with a 16th man in next year's c'ship. Supposedly opting for the best of both worlds with a traditional 1-15 line-up yet still having the 16th man hurling sweeper. Will be a breakthrough in the system if granted so fingers crossed the appeal in Portlaoise is approved

Wex86 (Wexford) - Posts: 224 - 04/08/2018 09:45:31    2128872

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Its really a concern that our striking and composure is what is letting us down at all levels. Massive amount of sides at half time in under 21

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 04/08/2018 16:39:54    2128950

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U 21 performance really disappointing, huge hulf in class and basic skills. Have felt for some time that it will be a while before a "Leinster" team wins a senior all ireland again. The outstanding u21 sides of the present and the last 5 years are all munster based. Our two best u21 sides of the last 5 years have been hockeyed by limerick and now cork. Whilst we probably have the best bunch we have had for 20 odd years its likely they are still well short of the best teams out there.

dumptruck1 (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 05/08/2018 08:28:44    2129213

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was thinking about it on the way home from work.i wonder could we ask the man funding davy if he would put the money into hurling coaches instead.
look at what limerick have done with jp's sponsorship.i think our approach is wrong.
but i do think we are better than we have shown this year at senior level.a better game plan a starting point

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/08/2018 10:48:08    2129273

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i meant to say that it is not long ago that donal og was on sunday game saying how bad cork underage is.
dont ever underestimate how quick things can be turned around with the right people in the right job and money spent properly

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/08/2018 10:50:33    2129274

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Hell of a Cork team. 4-5 senior stars, not just senior players.
Very very much back to the drawing board. As a 20-something, I am fed up with the love affair with 1996. There were better players before and since, who did not win an All-Ireland medal.
Our underage record is appalling. We bet nobody this year at any level. Dublin in U21 is about it. Leinster hurling is in serious trouble and not just Wexford. The coaching going on in Munster is miles ahead.
Cork and Limerick have got their act together. We are miles away.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1737 - 05/08/2018 17:36:04    2129470

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Replying To perfect10:  "i meant to say that it is not long ago that donal og was on sunday game saying how bad cork underage is.
dont ever underestimate how quick things can be turned around with the right people in the right job and money spent properly"
have we the funds doe is the question

gusseraneman (Wexford) - Posts: 521 - 05/08/2018 17:52:42    2129487

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Of course we have the funds. The costs for the senior panel are ridiculous, they can be reduced. We don't need to be spending nearly 1 million so Davy can pick the same team over and over again every day, and pick an incompetent sweeper. These things can be achieved without spending lots of money.

We have a centre of excellence which really has nothing different about it than normal club facilities. Every club has dressing rooms and a few pitches. A proper centre of excellence should include state of the art sports science equipment, all weather pitches and other unique things rather than run of the mill things that every club has

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 05/08/2018 18:52:44    2129564

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Replying To 890202:  "Of course we have the funds. The costs for the senior panel are ridiculous, they can be reduced. We don't need to be spending nearly 1 million so Davy can pick the same team over and over again every day, and pick an incompetent sweeper. These things can be achieved without spending lots of money.

We have a centre of excellence which really has nothing different about it than normal club facilities. Every club has dressing rooms and a few pitches. A proper centre of excellence should include state of the art sports science equipment, all weather pitches and other unique things rather than run of the mill things that every club has"
we need more hurling,not more hurling pitches.we have a strange obsession in every club in wexford that more pitches,more gyms more this more that is going to make us better.
we need more hurling,and better underage coaching at club level,and especially more hurling in our schools,to improve.
more pitches-give me strength if you feel this is the answer.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/08/2018 20:56:17    2129655

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Replying To perfect10:  "we need more hurling,not more hurling pitches.we have a strange obsession in every club in wexford that more pitches,more gyms more this more that is going to make us better.
we need more hurling,and better underage coaching at club level,and especially more hurling in our schools,to improve.
more pitches-give me strength if you feel this is the answer."
Did I not say more unique things? No all weather pitch in the county, so one of them would be unique, then I said proper top class sport science equipment and facilities

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 05/08/2018 21:34:50    2129682

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Replying To perfect10:  "we need more hurling,not more hurling pitches.we have a strange obsession in every club in wexford that more pitches,more gyms more this more that is going to make us better.
we need more hurling,and better underage coaching at club level,and especially more hurling in our schools,to improve.
more pitches-give me strength if you feel this is the answer."
+1 here.
We have lots of more pressing matters than more facilities.
I'm depressed after reading the coaching ad on the Wexford GAA twitter page. That is why we are not winning. The CE employment scheme should be used for improving/maintaining facilities in villages/schools/etc, not to find a hurling coach. It is depressing to think that is what it is being used for.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1737 - 05/08/2018 21:37:13    2129687

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Hell of a Cork team. 4-5 senior stars, not just senior players.
Very very much back to the drawing board. As a 20-something, I am fed up with the love affair with 1996. There were better players before and since, who did not win an All-Ireland medal.
Our underage record is appalling. We bet nobody this year at any level. Dublin in U21 is about it. Leinster hurling is in serious trouble and not just Wexford. The coaching going on in Munster is miles ahead.
Cork and Limerick have got their act together. We are miles away."
Putting Galway in the underage graflde will not help the counties actually in Leinster ether.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 05/08/2018 22:57:35    2129746

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Replying To perfect10:  "we need more hurling,not more hurling pitches.we have a strange obsession in every club in wexford that more pitches,more gyms more this more that is going to make us better.
we need more hurling,and better underage coaching at club level,and especially more hurling in our schools,to improve.
more pitches-give me strength if you feel this is the answer."
100% spot on

castletownman (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 06/08/2018 01:32:15    2129810

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Putting Galway in the underage graflde will not help the counties actually in Leinster ether."
ah here,if we also blaming galway.....if you ask me having galway is better for leinster hurling.
more top teams the better.
our coaching is letting us down,not galaay or facilities or whatever.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 06/08/2018 08:31:52    2129843

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Replying To 890202:  "Did I not say more unique things? No all weather pitch in the county, so one of them would be unique, then I said proper top class sport science equipment and facilities"
and all of that costs a lot of money,money which would be better spent on coaches.
kilkennys facilities are no better than ours.nor are limerick or clare or galway.but their hurling is streets ahead

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 06/08/2018 08:35:23    2129846

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I think you missed the main point I was making is that the centre of excellence is a waste of money because its just dressing rooms and pitches, every club has these. The point is that if hundreds of thousands are to be spent on capital expenditure then wouldn't it be better to spend it on unique and state of the art things.

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 06/08/2018 10:12:05    2129885

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Replying To perfect10:  "ah here,if we also blaming galway.....if you ask me having galway is better for leinster hurling.
more top teams the better.
our coaching is letting us down,not galaay or facilities or whatever."
Joe Canning himself said one of the reasons he reckons Wexford have become more competitive is because our underage teams got a long run in the championship. Leinster is clearly the weakest province and by putting Galway in it it makes it more difficult for Leinster counties to progress. One game at U21 level will do ourselves, Offaly, Dublin and other weaker counties no favours. Yes it is up to those counties to get to that standard but if Galway are trimming Leinster counties the young players give up hope and then opt not to play senior. Galway should have been put in Munster for underage and allow the Leinster counties to rehab. Ether that or change the structure of the U21 championship to a round robin like the seniors. It won't happen because of player burnout but players need more games to develop.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 06/08/2018 12:36:49    2129953

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Replying To 890202:  "I think you missed the main point I was making is that the centre of excellence is a waste of money because its just dressing rooms and pitches, every club has these. The point is that if hundreds of thousands are to be spent on capital expenditure then wouldn't it be better to spend it on unique and state of the art things."
Yep your dead right.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1351 - 06/08/2018 12:53:49    2129966

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