Extremely demoralizing defeat, possibly our worst performance of the Davy era definitely worst championship performance sense Dublin in 2016. Worst thing about today is I think Clare are average enough and if Galway are clued in they will make mince meat of them in the semi-final.

Weather davy stays or not I'd say is 50-50, if he does stay a serious reboot has to take place, teams are wised up to our system now, we need to develop a plan B.

Alot of nonense has been thrown up here sense the game claiming we havent improved under Davy, well we lost to offaly in the league 2 yrs ago by 9 points so I think that settles that argument, weather Davy is the right man to push us to the next level in 2019 remains to be seen.

On the attendance today the GAA have shown that keeping Frank happy is more of a priority than looking after the supporters.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 14/07/2018 21:11:27    2121736

Candidates in Wexford for the job are few and far between. Before this year I'd say JJ Doyle but he's involved in the making of horrendous decisions in this management team so I'd have my doubts now.

Your not looking for a "big name", clare don't have " big name" managers, we just want someone to do an efficient job and get the best out of the players in Wexford, because I don't think that is happening at the moment.

Liam Griffin wasn't a big name in 95 but he was efficient, he thought clearly and strategically. We need to think outside the box. Failing that, then Derek McGrath or Donal o grady

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 14/07/2018 21:24:15    2121741

Bobbyredjr (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 14/07/2018 21:37:24    2121758

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 14/07/2018 21:40:21    2121762

Shocking stuff today, persisted with tippy tally hurling which has caused so many scores against us this year, big breeze in the second half and we play short with just 2 players inside their 45. Same as Waterford last year where we keep a spare man back when we're chasing the game,makes no sense. We have some really good hurlers being held back by this system, let them go express themselves and we get beat so be it can't be worse than this.

Bobbyredjr (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 14/07/2018 21:45:28    2121772

If you read my post you'll see that I'm not suggesting that. Also I don't think the sweeper system is the problem I think the player we have playing as the sweeper is not good enough

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 14/07/2018 21:52:16    2121783

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 14/07/2018 21:59:34    2121792

If we're playing a sweeper we at least have to leave the forwards up front, the midfield is swamped with no out ball for our backs

Bobbyredjr (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 14/07/2018 22:18:20    2121816

Bobbyredjr (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 14/07/2018 22:30:04    2121824

Look at the fight and spirit and hurling we showed at times. Davy gave us more wins in his tenure that the previous decade. We have the hurlers now. Davy gave us a great system but teams have developed tactics to avoid the sweeper.

To be honest I think he will feel that now is a good time to bow out. And it will be best if he moves on. I feel the lads especially the forwards are shackled by the system which is great when it works but it has become too unbendable and rigid.

I would like Antony Daly or Eddie Brennan as the new manager.

I feel too many lads are being played out of position

Reck is not a corner back
Chin is best at midfield
Jack o Connor operates better in the half back line.

Biggest disappointment today was our lack of fight. Remember us in Nowlan park in 2017 league when we bullied Kilkenny off the field. Where has that gone?

I would like some players brought into the panel - Andrew shore ( only 27) Jack Guiney ( at Centre back) Seamus Casey ( impressed at U21 and good free taker) Darren Byrne ( we have problems at corner back he could add physicality in this position) Ian Carty ( also impressed me in U21 level).

I agree that there is a lack of competition for places and some players have become complacent.

Overall it was a good year but a poor championship- it is wrong if we are at our freshest in February and March and look flat in summer.

If Davy stays he needs to change or evolve his system and use his panel more or we will plateau and ultimately go backwards. We need to build on what Davy has achieved. Is he the man to make that happen or not?

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 551 - 14/07/2018 22:30:38    2121825

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 14/07/2018 22:30:49    2121826

Conor scored 1- 3 from play today and should have had more. And this is virtually living off scraps. Imagine the damage he could do if he was not double marked for the whole season.

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 551 - 14/07/2018 22:33:58    2121828

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 14/07/2018 22:34:12    2121829

hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 14/07/2018 22:38:54    2121831

Conor scored 1- 3 from play today and should have had more. And this is virtually living off scraps. Imagine the damage he could do if he was not double marked for the whole season.

I'd like to thank all the players and management for everything this year. They gave it there all and we had many great days out in Wexford park. Unfortunately we came up short but with players like Rory o Connor Reck and firman so young the future is bright.

Just look at the hurlers tipp have and what a bad year they had - same with Waterford.

I really hope we can win something soon though!

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 551 - 14/07/2018 22:49:14    2121833

gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 14/07/2018 23:08:13    2121845

Thanks to all the players and management for their time and commitment for the season.

However despite us not playing well, we got to within 3 points with 3 minutes left and the team deserve great credit for staying in the game.
A special mention for liam ryan and conor mc who both had good games.

But unfortunately we did ourselves no favours.
I would estimate we gave Clare about 5-7 points due to our puck out strategy of going short and/or using a sweeper to work the ball up the field. Its just too risky. I'd vary puck outs but go long every time. Even if you loose it, its weell away from our posts.

We also missed three long range frees. For next year, I would bring Seamus Casey in from u-21s to take all frees. Not only does he have a very good strike rate but this might also free up Rory O Connor from this burden so he can concentrate on his own game.

What really fecked us up today was a lack of scoring forwards from play. All 6 Clare forwards scored from play by half time. Our scorers from play were Conor Mc (1-3), Rory O'Connor (0-1), Lee Chin (0-1), Shaun Murphy 0-1, Diarmuid O Keefe 0-1 and Damien Reck 0-1. Clare had 10 different scorers and we had 6.

Anyway ... rant over.

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 14/07/2018 23:22:50    2121854

gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 14/07/2018 23:34:07    2121862

Wouldnt that just make you cry! Wexford were pathetic..they were not geared up for it

fathermurphy (Wexford) - Posts: 315 - 14/07/2018 23:57:09    2121871

Oh god that was horrendous. We saved our worst display for the most important game of the year. We had no fire in the bellies from the word go and were stuck to the ground, why was this? Team had plenty of time off and should of been fresh and chomping at the bit but they were rusty , lethargic and lifeless. Clare were there for the taking today. Tactics were terrible and looked over complicated. To the players, Why was Paudie Foley left on Tony Kelly so long, it was a total mismatch from the get go. It was only remedied when it was too late. How many balls did Fanning mess up? Puck outs were terrible, causing 3/4 points, Sean Murphys distribution coughed up 3/4 points, our tip tappy hurling broke down so many times, Clare completely destroyed our game plan and sweeper system but we continued with it even though we were chasing the game? Why? Our sweeper system is dead and needs to be gotten rid of, we have still conceded huge scores while we have been hamstrung up front. We have to go 15 on 15 if not we don't move forward. What has happened some of our players? Dee O Keefee, Kevin Foley, Lee Chin? Chin never as much as touched the ball in the first half and Davy left him on, he has been nothing short of terrible this year. Reck done much better when moved out, he was a real live wire despite been under pressure in the corner. Conor McDonald was our only real threat up front and a real pity that he has to live off scraps as he would create havoc if he was fed good ball, how many times did Wexford shoot wide from impossible distances, total waste of possession. We got back into the game and got on top but couldn't make it count on the scoreboard hitting wide after wide. Rory O Connor couldn't get going for some reason today but passes to the forwards were terrible. I would have a go at picking a team for next year 2019 and would like your imput, this would get rid of the sweeper and hopefully give a chance to our forwards.We have a team that can compete 15 on 15.
Mark Fanning or ANOther(not sure who this would be, maybe O Leary from the Alley)
Breen (hopefully get him back next year)
Ryan ( maybe Byrne from Blackwater worth a look at and push Ryan to 6
Firman (will improve after spending his first year in the panel)
P Foley or Colm Kehoe ( Foley had a poor game today but management got the matchups totally wrong)
Ryan or maybe try Chin there
Donohoe or S Murphy (but will have to tighten up or maybe Reck if matchups dictate)
Reck (would add a bit of spice and work rate to the middle)
Nolan or Chin (Nolan a Hard tryer even though didn't work today)
K Foley ( can take a score if on form if not Tompkins)
O Hanlon ( good in the air and with decent distribution,could be a good ball winner from puckouts)
D Dunne ( his pace causes all sorts of problems when in possession)
Rory O Connor ( will develop further and will become a great forward)
Conor Mac (needs to be brought into games with team getting rid of aimless shooting)
Liam Og ( will hopefully get back to his best next year, inter change with K Foley)
Subs O Keefee,Tompkins, J O Connor,Casey(free taking in the 90%) Higgins, Guiney,Devereux,Maddock, carty, Kehoe, Molloy,S Reck,J O Connor

Tox73 (Wexford) - Posts: 169 - 15/07/2018 01:01:59    2121887