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I'm half agreeing/disagreeing with most of the comments on here, re-chin, poor performance against Westmeath, etc etc. I don't want to fully agree as I want to see the Lee Chin who hurled up a storm against Kilkenny last year, he is so so capable of it and that's what we should all hope for and want this Saturday, not for him to be dropped, he's far too valuable a player to us, when on song he is almost unplayable and will have a huge bearing on the game.
I'd take a struggling performance against Westmeath over a 20+ hammering of them. I don't mind there being doubt there, it can become a positive I think, and does anyone here not genuinely believe that? These lads are capable of a huge performance Saturday and firing us in to an All Ireland semi.
Forget the venue, forget Chin in paper every day, forget the poor performances thus far. Let's just hope Davy and the players get it right Saturday, think of the numbers that would travel to the semi final.... we can only dream!
I can be as critical as anyone about some of these lads performances this year but it's more annoyance than anything because I know what they can do, but I'm going to 100% back them into battle Saturday, and hopefully can be sitting on my couch Sunday afternoon enjoying the Kilkenny v Limerick game knowing we await the All Ireland semi final draw.
Up Wexford!
dbyrney1 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 10/07/2018 12:40:30
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Replying To dbyrney1: "I'm half agreeing/disagreeing with most of the comments on here, re-chin, poor performance against Westmeath, etc etc. I don't want to fully agree as I want to see the Lee Chin who hurled up a storm against Kilkenny last year, he is so so capable of it and that's what we should all hope for and want this Saturday, not for him to be dropped, he's far too valuable a player to us, when on song he is almost unplayable and will have a huge bearing on the game.
I'd take a struggling performance against Westmeath over a 20+ hammering of them. I don't mind there being doubt there, it can become a positive I think, and does anyone here not genuinely believe that? These lads are capable of a huge performance Saturday and firing us in to an All Ireland semi.
Forget the venue, forget Chin in paper every day, forget the poor performances thus far. Let's just hope Davy and the players get it right Saturday, think of the numbers that would travel to the semi final.... we can only dream!
I can be as critical as anyone about some of these lads performances this year but it's more annoyance than anything because I know what they can do, but I'm going to 100% back them into battle Saturday, and hopefully can be sitting on my couch Sunday afternoon enjoying the Kilkenny v Limerick game knowing we await the All Ireland semi final draw.
Up Wexford!" You know what youre dead right.
The sun is shining and on saturday we are playing Clare for a place in an All Ireland Semi Final against Cork, 2 teams we have incidentally beaten already this year and all we see is moaning.
Moaning about where and when the game is on!
Moaning about Lee Chin making a living by endorsing products and being in demand around the country because in some peoples eyes his level of hurling means he shouldnt be allowed speak or endorse products or do interviews.
Moaning about not playing well against Westmeath and had we hurled them out the gate the said same people would have said sure its only Westmeath.
There are hurlers in Waterford, Dublin, Tipperary, Offaly and the likes who would love to be in our position.
I cannot make the game myself due to the fact its on Saturday and not Sunday due to an event i cant get out if but i couldnt care less, its a great opportunity and we are in a great position.
Bring it on i say.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1351 - 10/07/2018 13:21:12
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Replying To perfect10: "if you have all day to just get up and head on for cork,on with you.
but let me put this to you.wexford v galway at 5pm in wexford park was 3/4 full.the earlier you play the game,the more the crowd decreases.
i am not going,because i have to work,but even if i wasnt,i have a family with interests which would mean leaving for cork at 10.30-11am is not possible.
lots of people work on saturday who would get away from work a bit early,etc to get to a game at 7,or would go on a sunday,these are the people who wont be able to make it.
that evening v waterford a few years ago in nowlan park was the best evening in years supporting wexford.the place was heaving,big crowd,because the bloody time suited.
i hope people turn out in force on saturday,but i dont think it will be the case.pity" I think youre still missing the point perfect 10. Nowlan Park would be very handy for us but the choice was between Semple and Cork. And either either wont suit any1 working on Saturday like you and myself included. And to be honest even a 7pm throwin in either venue would be very awkward. But 1 of the matches had to be on the Saturday. We drew the short straw seemingly.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12053 - 10/07/2018 17:15:40
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Replying To tearintom: "You know what youre dead right.
The sun is shining and on saturday we are playing Clare for a place in an All Ireland Semi Final against Cork, 2 teams we have incidentally beaten already this year and all we see is moaning.
Moaning about where and when the game is on!
Moaning about Lee Chin making a living by endorsing products and being in demand around the country because in some peoples eyes his level of hurling means he shouldnt be allowed speak or endorse products or do interviews.
Moaning about not playing well against Westmeath and had we hurled them out the gate the said same people would have said sure its only Westmeath.
There are hurlers in Waterford, Dublin, Tipperary, Offaly and the likes who would love to be in our position.
I cannot make the game myself due to the fact its on Saturday and not Sunday due to an event i cant get out if but i couldnt care less, its a great opportunity and we are in a great position.
Bring it on i say." I agree 100% with you and dbyrney I think we ve a far better chance of winning this than I did the last 3 QFs against Waterford twice and Limerick. And thats why I think weve made massive progress. If we had won 1 of the last 3 QFs it would have shocked the hurling world whereas if we win Saturday I dont think any1 would be too surprised. Or if Clare win either btw. Thats progress from a few years ago where we were travelling to play Laois genuinely wondering would we win or not. Less whinging and more positivity lads! And up Wexford every1 would be happy take a day off work saturday or sunday morning or evening to travel up to Jones Road!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12053 - 10/07/2018 17:25:55
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Replying To tearintom: "You know what youre dead right.
The sun is shining and on saturday we are playing Clare for a place in an All Ireland Semi Final against Cork, 2 teams we have incidentally beaten already this year and all we see is moaning.
Moaning about where and when the game is on!
Moaning about Lee Chin making a living by endorsing products and being in demand around the country because in some peoples eyes his level of hurling means he shouldnt be allowed speak or endorse products or do interviews.
Moaning about not playing well against Westmeath and had we hurled them out the gate the said same people would have said sure its only Westmeath.
There are hurlers in Waterford, Dublin, Tipperary, Offaly and the likes who would love to be in our position.
I cannot make the game myself due to the fact its on Saturday and not Sunday due to an event i cant get out if but i couldnt care less, its a great opportunity and we are in a great position.
Bring it on i say." Just on one thing it is not guaranteed we play cork if we beat clare at all.
If wexford and kilkenny win then it is
Wexford v galway
Kilkenny v cork
If clare and limerick win it is
Clare v galway
Limerick v cork
If wexford and limerick win it is a draw wexford limerick in one pother cork galway in another pot.
wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 10/07/2018 17:50:40
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Replying To beano: "I find it strange that the wider hurling public proclaim Kilkenny's fighting spirit, and that the mantra "they are never beaten until the final whistle" is still trotted out ad infinitum, when in reality they are having arguably their worst ever championship campaign under Cody.
They are blessed that the new format has given them more games because in reality, they were played off the park twice by Galway (only three rather scruffy goals kept them interested yesterday), and needed to be at their best to only force a draw against an under-performing Galway in the drawn Leinster final. Our fatigue and high wide count got them over the line in Nowlan Park, while Keaney's injuring departure had a huge bearing in their narrow win over Dublin. Only could Kilkenny suffer two 7 point + defeats in one championship year, and be regarded as having great character- if it was ourselves we'd be criticised out the gate." Have to agree seen 2 separate columns in the independent predicting themselves and galway to be the AI Final but you could argue they were lucky to finish in the top 3 in leinster.
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Replying To wexcore: "Just on one thing it is not guaranteed we play cork if we beat clare at all.
If wexford and kilkenny win then it is
Wexford v galway
Kilkenny v cork
If clare and limerick win it is
Clare v galway
Limerick v cork
If wexford and limerick win it is a draw wexford limerick in one pother cork galway in another pot." Didn't know that wexcore.
Cheers for that. Don't know why but I thought we were on the cork side of the draw once we won the quarter.
Either way Cork or Galway in the semifinal if we get there, we've beaten bit already this year!!!
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1351 - 10/07/2018 20:55:21
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Replying To wexcore: "Just on one thing it is not guaranteed we play cork if we beat clare at all.
If wexford and kilkenny win then it is
Wexford v galway
Kilkenny v cork
If clare and limerick win it is
Clare v galway
Limerick v cork
If wexford and limerick win it is a draw wexford limerick in one pother cork galway in another pot." I think you r mistaken if Wexford and Limerick win we play Cork and Limerick play Galway. If ourselves and Kilkenny win there will be a draw as both of us have already played Galway in the Championship. And if Clare and Limerick win likewise a draw will be made as both have already played Cork. Lastly if Clare and Kilkenny win Clare will play Galway and Kilkenny will play Cork.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12053 - 10/07/2018 21:03:11
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Replying To Viking66: "I think you r mistaken if Wexford and Limerick win we play Cork and Limerick play Galway. If ourselves and Kilkenny win there will be a draw as both of us have already played Galway in the Championship. And if Clare and Limerick win likewise a draw will be made as both have already played Cork. Lastly if Clare and Kilkenny win Clare will play Galway and Kilkenny will play Cork." Wrong again. There wont be any draw whatever the outcomes at the weekend.if KK and wex win....then KK play cork, wex play galway. The basic rules are top rule - no repeat of provincial final allowed - then no repeat of earlier championship pairings. Which all means a draw will never be needed with this new format for last 6 and having round robins before then
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Replying To Viking66: "I think you r mistaken if Wexford and Limerick win we play Cork and Limerick play Galway. If ourselves and Kilkenny win there will be a draw as both of us have already played Galway in the Championship. And if Clare and Limerick win likewise a draw will be made as both have already played Cork. Lastly if Clare and Kilkenny win Clare will play Galway and Kilkenny will play Cork." What I am told and from a pretty reliable source (one who told me it was cork for the clare match and quarter finals are on separate days) it is a draw if limerick and wexford win. Reasoning behind it is the only pairings that can't be repeated are provincial finals.
But then again could be wrong if so I apologise
wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 10/07/2018 22:26:00
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Replying To Tippsdrivefor5: "Wrong again. There wont be any draw whatever the outcomes at the weekend.if KK and wex win....then KK play cork, wex play galway. The basic rules are top rule - no repeat of provincial final allowed - then no repeat of earlier championship pairings. Which all means a draw will never be needed with this new format for last 6 and having round robins before then" This would make far more sense.
wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 10/07/2018 23:10:43
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Replying To wexcore: "What I am told and from a pretty reliable source (one who told me it was cork for the clare match and quarter finals are on separate days) it is a draw if limerick and wexford win. Reasoning behind it is the only pairings that can't be repeated are provincial finals.
But then again could be wrong if so I apologise" Ahhh so its changed with the new format...... thats not so great for us if we beat Clare theres a good chance we could face Galway in the semi?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12053 - 10/07/2018 23:51:51
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Replying To wexcore: "What I am told and from a pretty reliable source (one who told me it was cork for the clare match and quarter finals are on separate days) it is a draw if limerick and wexford win. Reasoning behind it is the only pairings that can't be repeated are provincial finals.
But then again could be wrong if so I apologise" Tipp man has it right. Repeat pairings of provincial finals avoided in first instance, then then any repeat pairing if possible. If you look at gaas own fixtures /reaults masterplan on gaa.ie its clearly stated.Wexford and limerick win, which is what i expect,
its wexford cork. Hon Wexford.
dumptruck1 (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 11/07/2018 07:39:17
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Replying To Tippsdrivefor5: "Wrong again. There wont be any draw whatever the outcomes at the weekend.if KK and wex win....then KK play cork, wex play galway. The basic rules are top rule - no repeat of provincial final allowed - then no repeat of earlier championship pairings. Which all means a draw will never be needed with this new format for last 6 and having round robins before then" It would seem you are 100% correct a limerick win means they play galway no matter what the out come of clare v wexford.
As the saying goes " a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" humble apologises
wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 11/07/2018 08:02:18
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Smy team for Saturday would be
Fanning
Reck, Ryan, Firman
Murphy
Foley, OHanlon, OKeefe
Nolan, K Foley
McGovern Rory OConnor Chin
Morris Mac
Id give McGovern a start. I gathered from JJ Doyles interview after the match that he is well able to start. He had said others ahead of him are going well. Id have to disagree. I dont think Jacko has been going well since the Offaly game. David Dunne has done well too starting. I wouldnt be surprised to see both Dunne and McGovern start. We cant start Chin because of what we have seen last year. Has he been good enough to be guaranteed a start?
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Cork would have been an interesting one, playing a team managed by a man who last managed us to an All Ireland semi final in 07! Here's a bit more clarity on the draw https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/ireland-hurling-semi-finals-look-like-now-preliminaries-go-script-166928
dbyrney1 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 11/07/2018 09:23:15
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Cork would have been an interesting one, playing a team managed by a man who last managed us to an All Ireland semi final in 07! Here's a bit more clarity on the draw https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/ireland-hurling-semi-finals-look-like-now-preliminaries-go-script-166928
dbyrney1 (Wexford) - Posts: 74 - 11/07/2018 09:23:15
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Think this Clare team could be got at, Their backs are not the fastest and if we can get good fast ball we have a chance of getting a good score. David Dunne and maybe McGovern to start for me, That would leave Jack O Connor and maybe Lee Chin held in reserve. We have to get the match ups spot on and who better than Davy to know this. We have to start the game the way Cork started the second half, cut off supply to Conlon and win the midfield battle. I am not overly impressed with Shane o Donnell or Podge Collins. Our frees are a worry, Duggan will keep them in touch if we continue to foul the way we have been doing to date. Cut out the free's and take our chances at the other end. We need big games from Ryan and O Hanlon and especially Murphy. Getting most of this right will give us a great chance of getting to a Semi, if we play like we did against Westmeath, it will be a damp squib ,the way it was for the last 2 years against Waterford.
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i think we should start liam og,i would also start david dunne.not worried about frees,o connor is able for them.
Fanning
Reck, Ryan, donohoe
Murphy
Foley, OHanlon, OKeefe
Nolan, K Foley
McGovern Rory OConnor Morris
Mac dunne
pick on form,not on what a lad did before.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 11/07/2018 11:54:25
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Lads, Chin isn't going to be dropped..... Simple Fact, so let's hope he discovers some old form.
Am a massive fan of McGovern but would be a big ask, If i had six weeks training under my belt I'd look sharp against Westmeath (No Disrespect to Westmeath) but Clare in an AI Q final will be a different kettle of fish.
Best case scenario we win, Limerick win and we give Cork a good crack in an AI Semi Final. Lose by anymore than 3-4 points and is heading towards disaster territory.
Here;s hoping for a good game and obviously a Wexford win. Chin with the winning point to silence the doubters (me being one of them)!
rossytilidie (Wexford) - Posts: 300 - 11/07/2018 12:24:20
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