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Replying To hurler101:  "Thats a bad misread. Sorry lads. Thank god its an anonumous forum now. Id have some red face."
Don't worry about it, the same could've happened anyone.

gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 02/07/2018 15:40:11    2117760

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Replying To hurler101:  "Thats a bad misread. Sorry lads. Thank god its an anonumous forum now. Id have some red face."
Fair play to ya lad not many would say sorry. To an extent we are all keyboard warriors in so far as we 're all on an internet forum. Im only on this since last year but Im guessing from the posts you see put up that lads try to get to as many matches as they can. As far as saturday goes I'd imagine Davy should start our strongest team possible as perfect 10 suggested. And if we are 20 points up shortly after halftime as hurlerohurley suggests that would be the time to rest Dee o, chin, mac, foleys, nolan and the u21s etc. I think if we could develop 2 other lads equally as good at the wingback role in Davys system and interchange them shortly after halftime like Millwall under Harris have done the last couple of years with the wingers it would help the players play for 70+ minutes as Davy, and all of us, want.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12048 - 02/07/2018 15:46:29    2117767

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Replying To gminor:  "What's your views on Carlow then?"
my view on carlow is they are just as good as offaly and have earned their place in the leinster hurling championship.
i still see some form of restructure coming,something has to change re munster being immune from promotion relegation.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 02/07/2018 16:09:03    2117775

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7pm Saturday evening in Mullingar

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 02/07/2018 16:09:19    2117777

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Replying To Viking66:  "Fair play to ya lad not many would say sorry. To an extent we are all keyboard warriors in so far as we 're all on an internet forum. Im only on this since last year but Im guessing from the posts you see put up that lads try to get to as many matches as they can. As far as saturday goes I'd imagine Davy should start our strongest team possible as perfect 10 suggested. And if we are 20 points up shortly after halftime as hurlerohurley suggests that would be the time to rest Dee o, chin, mac, foleys, nolan and the u21s etc. I think if we could develop 2 other lads equally as good at the wingback role in Davys system and interchange them shortly after halftime like Millwall under Harris have done the last couple of years with the wingers it would help the players play for 70+ minutes as Davy, and all of us, want."
If we are going to ape a football team can we set our sights higher than Milwall please.

dumptruck1 (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 02/07/2018 18:54:29    2117871

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Replying To perfect10:  "my view on carlow is they are just as good as offaly and have earned their place in the leinster hurling championship.
i still see some form of restructure coming,something has to change re munster being immune from promotion relegation."
I just think to be fair to Offaly they could have become competitive under Kevin Martin and should have been left in tier one along with Carlow, who earned their spot. Then the powers that be could have brought in regulation next year.

gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 02/07/2018 19:33:16    2117887

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Replying To dumptruck1:  "If we are going to ape a football team can we set our sights higher than Milwall please."
There is no higher soccer club in England. And when youre picking from a smaller pool of top players than Tipp Cork Limerick Kilkenny etc it might do no harm be aware of how underresourced clubs in england are able to compete with bigger clubs......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12048 - 02/07/2018 23:17:00    2117956

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Replying To gminor:  "I just think to be fair to Offaly they could have become competitive under Kevin Martin and should have been left in tier one along with Carlow, who earned their spot. Then the powers that be could have brought in regulation next year."
I dont think theyll change it before next year. It will be up to the Offaly lads to get themselves fitter faster or whatever it takes to come straight back up. The argument that they don't have good enough hurlers doesnt wash with me- their club teams have been more successful than ours in the leinster club championship even in recent enough years.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12048 - 02/07/2018 23:22:33    2117958

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Replying To gminor:  "I just think to be fair to Offaly they could have become competitive under Kevin Martin and should have been left in tier one along with Carlow, who earned their spot. Then the powers that be could have brought in regulation next year."
Absolutely no problem with Offaly being relegated. They have shown no signs of any meaningful progress over the last 15 years. In the last ten years in the championship, Offalys only wins against other current Leinster and Munster championship teams were against Limerick in 2010 and Wexford in 2012. Since then their results have been abysmal. Losing by 13 points to Westmeath a couple of years ago probably being the low point. They have shown themselves to be competitive with the likes of Laois, Carlow, Westmeath and Antrim and therefore the place for Offaly is in the Joe McDonagh cup. They would then have something realistic to aim to try and win.

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 03/07/2018 02:00:20    2117984

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Replying To gminor:  "Well for a start:
(1) Munster Council/Croke Park wouldn't allow Waterford to play their home games in Nolan Park.
(2) Only Munster teams are allowed to play in Munster. The rest of Ireland, including a Munster team can play in Leinster.
(3) No Munster team were demoted to a lower tier competition.
(3) Munster would never agree to play their Munster final in another Provence.
To me all that adds up Leinster Council would agree to anything and that can't be good for hurling in the Provence. There would've been nothing wrong with leaving Offaly in Leinster and allowing Carlow to be the sixth team."
1+3 I don't understand what you issue is with the LC, one one hand you seem to be praising the MC in 3 and the fist one was clearly a bad decision by the MC and wasn't done for the good of Waterford hurling. Munster also has more options when it comes to grounds than Leinster so three is not really something they would be put to the test on is it. Everyone has their views on Galway in the LC however the reality is the vote was carried by all the counties in Leinster not by some shadowy group of lads in a smoke filled room.
Everyone seems to forget that this time next year Offaly will most likely be still in the hunt for the McCarthy cup and Wexford may not if they finish fourth, they I assume you will complain about that being unfair? Whats unfair is that Antrim got a playoff against the Ring winners where as Offaly didn't against the McDonagh winners. Apply the rules the same way and we would have had another Leinster team in the McDonagh. For what its worth there are 4 Leinster (5 if you look at it a different way), 3 Munster and 1 Connacht team. As Leinster teams dominate the McDonagh cup, there is an over-representation of Leinster teams in the latter stages of the McCarthy Cup. The McDonagh Cup gives the teams in Leinster a brilliant platform to advance the game and thats why they voted for it. In all o fthis the only team who got a raw deal in Hurling this year was Kildare - not may people on here shouting about that though.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1805 - 03/07/2018 06:44:50    2117985

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Replying To gminor:  "I just think to be fair to Offaly they could have become competitive under Kevin Martin and should have been left in tier one along with Carlow, who earned their spot. Then the powers that be could have brought in regulation next year."
why?they had 4 games to do it,and carlow would have beaten them the evening we did.
they havent anybody to blame only themselves,they have done zero for 20 years.
relegation next year,what difference?

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 03/07/2018 08:54:41    2117998

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Replying To zinny:  "1+3 I don't understand what you issue is with the LC, one one hand you seem to be praising the MC in 3 and the fist one was clearly a bad decision by the MC and wasn't done for the good of Waterford hurling. Munster also has more options when it comes to grounds than Leinster so three is not really something they would be put to the test on is it. Everyone has their views on Galway in the LC however the reality is the vote was carried by all the counties in Leinster not by some shadowy group of lads in a smoke filled room.
Everyone seems to forget that this time next year Offaly will most likely be still in the hunt for the McCarthy cup and Wexford may not if they finish fourth, they I assume you will complain about that being unfair? Whats unfair is that Antrim got a playoff against the Ring winners where as Offaly didn't against the McDonagh winners. Apply the rules the same way and we would have had another Leinster team in the McDonagh. For what its worth there are 4 Leinster (5 if you look at it a different way), 3 Munster and 1 Connacht team. As Leinster teams dominate the McDonagh cup, there is an over-representation of Leinster teams in the latter stages of the McCarthy Cup. The McDonagh Cup gives the teams in Leinster a brilliant platform to advance the game and thats why they voted for it. In all o fthis the only team who got a raw deal in Hurling this year was Kildare - not may people on here shouting about that though."
A bit all over the place there but I get your drift.

gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 03/07/2018 11:04:26    2118035

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Replying To perfect10:  "why?they had 4 games to do it,and carlow would have beaten them the evening we did.
they havent anybody to blame only themselves,they have done zero for 20 years.
relegation next year,what difference?"
It's that type of thinking that has Leinster hurling in the state it's in. Munster has five top hurling Counties, all of which have won All Ireland's at some level in recent times. Apart from the Connaught team, how many Counties in Leinster have won All Ireland's recently at ant level?. What Leinster County has hurling improved in to that level over the last 20 years?. Take your head out of the sand and you might see the elephant in the room.

gminor (Wexford) - Posts: 488 - 03/07/2018 11:14:41    2118039

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it is the leinister hurling counties own fault they have not won anything,bad structures,poor underage dev structures,lack of coaching,not how many teams are in leinster champ.
offaly did not just arrive at this nadir overnight.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 03/07/2018 12:21:16    2118065

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Replying To gminor:  "It's that type of thinking that has Leinster hurling in the state it's in. Munster has five top hurling Counties, all of which have won All Ireland's at some level in recent times. Apart from the Connaught team, how many Counties in Leinster have won All Ireland's recently at ant level?. What Leinster County has hurling improved in to that level over the last 20 years?. Take your head out of the sand and you might see the elephant in the room."
So Wexford hurling is not winning anything because of the Leinster Council.
Well I've heard it all now.
Wexford have improved dramatically in the past 5 years in hurling and I would praise the work being done at local level and through funding being provided by the Leinster Council.
Offaly are in a mess all down to their own making and it should be their plan to sort themselves out not leinster's.
Offaly will have a far better chance of reaching a quarter final through the Joe McDonagh Cup, thats where they belong at the minute lets face it they wouldn't beat a Cow behind with a banjo currently.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 03/07/2018 12:45:57    2118071

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Replying To perfect10:  "it is the leinister hurling counties own fault they have not won anything,bad structures,poor underage dev structures,lack of coaching,not how many teams are in leinster champ.
offaly did not just arrive at this nadir overnight."
part of the reason is the LCs timing of Leinster competitions also. Leinster u21 teams have been at a huge disadvantage in the u21 AI series the last good few years because the Leinster u21 final was a month or more before the munster final and then the AI semifinal. The munster u21 teams were training together right through the munster u21 then the AI u21 series. This year the Munster and Leinster u21 championships are running concurrently so hopefully the Leinster team, ie us, and Galway might do relatively better.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12048 - 03/07/2018 14:45:39    2118106

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "So Wexford hurling is not winning anything because of the Leinster Council.
Well I've heard it all now.
Wexford have improved dramatically in the past 5 years in hurling and I would praise the work being done at local level and through funding being provided by the Leinster Council.
Offaly are in a mess all down to their own making and it should be their plan to sort themselves out not leinster's.
Offaly will have a far better chance of reaching a quarter final through the Joe McDonagh Cup, thats where they belong at the minute lets face it they wouldn't beat a Cow behind with a banjo currently."
It's utterly ridiculous is what it is.

And in Offalys case, they received specialised Hurling Development Fund money to help them with their hurling development and coaching, and they were roundly criticised for how they wasted it. Blaming the Leinster council is a truly bizarre thing considering the funding the LC provides for counties.

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 03/07/2018 15:14:42    2118113

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Replying To james2011:  "It's utterly ridiculous is what it is.

And in Offalys case, they received specialised Hurling Development Fund money to help them with their hurling development and coaching, and they were roundly criticised for how they wasted it. Blaming the Leinster council is a truly bizarre thing considering the funding the LC provides for counties."
in fairness to wexford,we spend and have spent the money on good coaches,etc,and from the people i talk to who come in to the bar here,they rave about the coaches who do coaching courses in the clubs,etc.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 04/07/2018 09:05:55    2118309

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when was last time we had a week without chin in the paper promoting something?i am bored looking at it.go and hurl like a good man.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/07/2018 09:23:33    2118738

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Replying To perfect10:  "when was last time we had a week without chin in the paper promoting something?i am bored looking at it.go and hurl like a good man."
And he'll probably go out and hit 1-3 against Westmeath at the weekend and from the outside looking in, the man on the street will be thinking all right with the world again. Same thing happened vs. Offaly in the round robin.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1422 - 05/07/2018 11:07:40    2118768

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