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Jaysus such a bunch of lads you mentioned on the bank, all had their go at it, most not great at club level. Makes me thankful that we have the present management in place if that's the crew you would go with. bananapublican (Leitrim) - Posts: 878 - 03/11/2017 15:43:11 2060157 Link 0 |
On The Bank that comment does a lot of disservice to the lads that are there and committing. Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 374 - 03/11/2017 18:55:25 2060211 Link 0 |
I just logged in to get a feel for whats happening with the Leitrim panel and it appears to be all problematic,at least according to On the Bank and others who seem to have the inside track.On the basis of what is being published it looks like the bulk of last years panel haven't committed and Benny and co are scraping to get 15-20 players to commit to training.!!!! Can it be that bad!! joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 463 - 04/11/2017 18:07:22 2060460 Link 0 |
I just logged in to get a feel for whats happening with the Leitrim panel and it appears to be all problematic,at least according to On the Bank and others who seem to have the inside track.On the basis of what is being published it looks like the bulk of last years panel haven't committed and Benny and co are scraping to get 15-20 players to commit to training.!!!! Can it be that bad!! joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 463 - 04/11/2017 18:07:34 2060461 Link 0 |
Good for you Joeman, keep your eyes closed and keep cheering. Nothing pessimistic in saying how it is. I have more of an inside line than anyone and so far if you look at my posts for past 2/3 years I have been proven right. No one would rather come on here gloating about how good it is if it was, the management team are men I respected hugely as players or in their club management roles, but were they the right fit for this job at the time of getting it, then the answer is no. Nothing has changed my mind yet. It was never going to be an easy job, but it required a steady hand who has been consistently involved in football(not necessarily county) and had a track record in being innovative and leaving teams in better places than where he got them first. Not much to ask when setting out the criteria when the selection process began.
bananapublican (Leitrim) - Posts: 878 - 04/11/2017 19:27:43 2060470 Link 0 |
Personally I am appalled that players won't commit year on year. If leitrim are to improve we need everyone pulling in the same direction and year on year it's the players that let us down. As a loyal supporter I want to see the best players play for leitrim but the first thing a player has to do is be committed and want to be there. we seem to have panels that go through the motions and are half serious about being there and kind of do what is required and laid out for them. leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 645 - 05/11/2017 08:29:05 2060528 Link 0 |
So from talking to players that have been called up for S&C over the winter 90% of the reports on here are true for once. Up on 40 players have been called up which is great but their quality can be questioned. Benny Flynn is back but most of the other players mentioned are gone. 7 or 8 are gone and a few of the older ones like Ronan Kennedy have still not committed but will need a down time after Mohill's brilliant performance at the weekend. When considering all this 2018 is a scary prospect. It should be the year were all these young players begin to prosper but many of them are now not involved or the leaders are not there to guide them. When you look at the facts that Roscommon bet us by 17 points last year and have got most of their player's back who did not commit and we have lost a lot of players it is worrying to say the least. The New York game is now a toss-up if you ask me. And with Laois in division Four that only leaves one spot open for promotion and to be honest with Carlow's momentum, Antrim's pick and bounce from a new management and John Evans with Wicklow you would need to be a brave man to bet on Leitrim to be promoted with a weakened squad. If we had a full panel I honestly believe we would be promoted and rattle the Rossies. Yet as usual there will be no questions asked as to why all these players won't commit. Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 297 - 08/11/2017 13:00:38 2061198 Link 0 |
you asking why these players wont commit? no man has endless amount of time, everyone has family, work and other priorities, you must not expect these men year after year AFTER year to commit with they county board they way its ran and to and extent the management. Some men have seen the bigger picture and fair play to them, nobody should be shaming lads who wont commit.
AverageFootball (Leitrim) - Posts: 6 - 10/11/2017 15:24:13 2061629 Link 1 |
If that came across as if I was questioning the players themselves that was not my intention. I blame the management and county board for this. It is their responsibility to create an atmosphere and culture where players should be chomping at the bit to play for Leitrim not being begged. It seems as if this is now beyond the current management. Unless an extraordinary series of events Leitrim will have another average league followed by a hammering to Roscommon and a defeat in the qualifiers and then Guckian and co will step down. And with that another year will be lost and more players that committed this year will become disillusioned. Its a vicious circle that begins with the county board not appointing people with the required capabilities.
Leitrim1234 (Leitrim) - Posts: 297 - 11/11/2017 10:38:32 2061703 Link 0 |
It's laughable to think that you believe leitrim with a full panel could 'rattle' Roscommon. What players are not there that ud consider starters?
Frawnci3 (Leitrim) - Posts: 64 - 12/11/2017 20:54:38 2061930 Link 0 |
NY will be no pushovers so the hammering by Rossies mightn't happen. NY will feel that Leitrim will be there for the taking and will sense an upset.
Buzzcagney62 (Leitrim) - Posts: 217 - 13/11/2017 09:06:15 2061999 Link 0 |
Darren Carberry floated around 3 clubs in 3 years in Longford, if it's the same fella that I'm thinking of. Not the type of footballer you'd be looking to call into your county panel if I'm honest. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 16/11/2017 22:17:15 2062784 Link 0 |
In Ryan O'Rourke, Darragh Rooney, Keith Beirne, Conor Cullen, Dean McGovern Etc. I think we have some of the best talent around. However, it is fantasy to think that they can develop and thrive without leaders and men to set example. Ronan Gallagher, Gary Reynolds, Paddy McGuire, Wayne McKeown, Shane Moran, Ronan Kennedy and Mark Plunkett (Who was all them young players U21 captain last year) are gone along with Pearce Dolan and Gary Plunkett who have both been man of the match in recent county finals. Add in that Paul Brennan will be playing with a team he obviously sees as progressive and that Kevin Conlan wont be representing any county team and you will understand how their is no leaders left. Yet nobody is being held to account. This is what happens when the "Jobs for the boys" approach is used when making appointments. Talk to some of the 40 players who have been called up for S&C if you don't believe me. Ask them if any of last years panel wanted change and then question yourself as to why no change has been made. OnTheBank (Australia) - Posts: 170 - 17/11/2017 13:03:40 2062863 Link 0 |
Darren carberry played for only clonguish and st Bridges. He played ffor kilashee all his playing career
Danielsgaa (Leitrim) - Posts: 8 - 17/11/2017 19:42:41 2062921 Link 0 |
Carberry also played for Kenagh. Spinx (Longford) - Posts: 1236 - 18/11/2017 00:12:59 2062939 Link 0 |
Some very good players listed on these posts and Leitrim's future looking bright and fingers crossed we can have a good run in league and finally get promotion. . What struck me however in the last few Leitrim games I attended , the last one been our defeat to Carlow, was the size of opposition teams compared to Leitrim. We could do with about 7 or 8 6 foot plus players, Just a thought. Buzzcagney62 (Leitrim) - Posts: 217 - 20/11/2017 12:48:02 2063079 Link 0 |
What seems to be happening at the moment is that the players are not buying what the management are trying to sell them. At this stage the only way to turn this around is to appoint a high profile manager who has had success with young players in the past. The old cliche that "Leitrim just doesn't have the players" is not true anymore. GreenMan94 (Leitrim) - Posts: 29 - 21/11/2017 13:53:55 2063173 Link 0 |
If all those players named are gone we're back to square 1 another year of rebuilding seems we're doing this for the last decade going nowhere never having a full panel to pick from never giving ourselves a chance to progress really. On a different note why did Melvin Gaels decide to enter the U21 A championship when they only played 1 game and conceded all other games they won Minor A last year i think surely they have enough numbers and surely Manor shouldn't have been allowed into B championship they would have the numbers for the A competition. green.and.gold (Leitrim) - Posts: 427 - 23/11/2017 10:56:50 2063346 Link 0 |
going to be a long year. excellent point on the under 21 saga, crucial age for player development obviously but in my opinion the manor saga was avoidable and again underlines the ineptitude of county board officials, big clubs calling all the shots from what i can see. Manor picking their trophies which is frustrating for smaller clubs, they obviously didnt see the 15 a saide as winnable with the like of Mohill and Ballinamore, so they were allowed drop down to 13 a side, and land out in championship games with 10/11 subs. is it really any wonder that players at this age in small clubs are struggling to bother playing??
journeyman11 (Leitrim) - Posts: 47 - 24/11/2017 11:43:13 2063437 Link 0 |
As a county I wish we were a small bit more proactive in promoting our game. We are missing a trick by not having a Leitrim club team of the year. Each position could have three players nominated and then either each club manager and club captain could pick one and then tally the votes or an online vote for each position. In the technological age we are in it would be a brilliant way of gaining the younger generations attentions while also rewarding our players. Clearly, there is never going to be agreement on all these awards but here's mine to start debate. LeitrimWay (Leitrim) - Posts: 66 - 05/12/2017 16:45:34 2064493 Link 0 |