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The attendance last Saturday in Wexford Park was a disgrace but as I've said before those who were there were treated to an entertaining night with real GAA around them. This Sunday for every genuine fan in the park there will be the bandwagon jumpers who will drive the boot into the hurlers the very minute anything goes wrong.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 807 - 17/05/2018 10:19:43 2101615


sunday will be real gaa too.i hate people who think you are only a fan if you go to every game/sport.will you be in kilkenny for the minor hurling on sat?no,me neither.but that doesnt make me less of a fan or want them to win.same with minor/u8/u12/u14/u16/junior footballers.
it is unfair,insulting to call hurling support bandwagoners.there was a fine brigade when wexford played tyrone/dublin in our pomp,was that wrong too?
you whinge about people going ("bandwagon jumpers"),and then whinge about people not going ("disgrace").
which do you want?
people follow success.people have lives beyond gaa.get used to it.the day of gaa being the only day out is long gone.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 17/05/2018 11:42:24    2101655

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Replying To james2011:  "The turnover of players is certainly unusual, particularly the amount of experience in that turnover. We've never had so many leave leaving little experience behind. When the likes of Red, David Murphy etc retired, at least it left experienced players behind and the turnover was minimal reaction.

And as said above, we just dont have the players. They need time. Saying a team in Div 4 beating us as if its a bad thing, they won Div 4 at a canter after a disastrous year last year. And its not as if they beat us out the gate. A bit more experience and guile and Wexford would have own that game. As long as the team and management learn from it"
Aidan O'Brien gave 11 championship debuts in his last year...

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 17/05/2018 13:04:49    2101693

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Aidan O'Brien gave 11 championship debuts in his last year..."
11? surprising. Who were the 11?

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 17/05/2018 15:25:03    2101729

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Lad I can't think of them all now, you're after putting me on the spot! He told me himself it was 11 anyway. I'm fairly sure that players to make their championship debut in 2015 included Naomhan Rossiter, Simon Donohue, Syl Byrne, Kieran Butler, Eoghan Nolan, John Tubritt anyway. I think that might have been the first year on the panel for Kevin Rowe, Jim Rossiter, Donal Shanley, Robbie Vallejo, Paul Curtis, Jim White and Glen Malone too.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 17/05/2018 16:50:56    2101744

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footballers should keep waring them jersies

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2844 - 17/05/2018 17:02:41    2101750

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Well if that's the case we all need to apply the same to Power and Banty."
I agree

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 941 - 17/05/2018 19:59:48    2101777

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Lad I can't think of them all now, you're after putting me on the spot! He told me himself it was 11 anyway. I'm fairly sure that players to make their championship debut in 2015 included Naomhan Rossiter, Simon Donohue, Syl Byrne, Kieran Butler, Eoghan Nolan, John Tubritt anyway. I think that might have been the first year on the panel for Kevin Rowe, Jim Rossiter, Donal Shanley, Robbie Vallejo, Paul Curtis, Jim White and Glen Malone too."
Aidan O Brien stepped down in 2014, he wasnt manager in 2015.

The answer was actually 3 by my count (Tiarnan Rossiter, Kevin O Grady and Michael O Regan). There may have been 11 debutants in his last season, but they werent championship (and I dont know if there was or not). Wexford had 7 debutants at the weekend, if we are to count the league this year too, that figure rises drastically. Or he may have been counting previous years or something, but he certainly did not give 11 championship debuts in 2014.

I'm no big fan of McLoughlin, but there is no argument that this season has been the biggest and most substantial turnover of player we have had in years. The last of the good crop from decent years are fading fast and next year could see those few remaining gone too. Its a massive rebuilding process. Is McLoughlin the man for it? I dont know. But he deserves a shot at it now.

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 17/05/2018 23:42:09    2101842

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as offaly have learned,an outsider is not the answer.
put money into underage coaching,etc instead of outside man

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 18/05/2018 09:08:14    2101875

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well to be fair considering he is a teacher in Rosslare i wouldnt exactly class paul as an outsider.

He is here for the Qualifiers anyway so hopefully we can get some more games and get the new guys more championship football.

wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 18/05/2018 11:05:28    2101912

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To me, so far from what I've seen, McLoughlin is no better or worse than any manager or coach we've ever had, or even any club manager in the county at the moment. Yeah, big player turnover, but he did cast aside some experience too. And player turnover is always huge in Wexford. I don't buy that this is the biggest turnover ever.

To entrust the team for the next few years to a lad with no pedigree, even in the club game, I don't think is right for us. Not at all. Don't care if he's an outsider or a local. I've no idea where he got the job from, and nothing I've seen makes me think he will bring the team anywhere.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 18/05/2018 11:29:40    2101921

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Replying To icehonesty:  "To me, so far from what I've seen, McLoughlin is no better or worse than any manager or coach we've ever had, or even any club manager in the county at the moment. Yeah, big player turnover, but he did cast aside some experience too. And player turnover is always huge in Wexford. I don't buy that this is the biggest turnover ever.

To entrust the team for the next few years to a lad with no pedigree, even in the club game, I don't think is right for us. Not at all. Don't care if he's an outsider or a local. I've no idea where he got the job from, and nothing I've seen makes me think he will bring the team anywhere."
No pedigree in the club game ???

He was player - manager and then coach of Clane in the late 90's. They were beaten in a Leinster semi final, and beaten by Erins Isle in a Leinster final. I'm not defending the man but at least let us get the facts right.

yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 18/05/2018 12:42:43    2101944

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Replying To wexcore:  "well to be fair considering he is a teacher in Rosslare i wouldnt exactly class paul as an outsider.

He is here for the Qualifiers anyway so hopefully we can get some more games and get the new guys more championship football."
i meant if people we saying we should go outside the county again for his replacement.

i dont think he is any better or worse,but he is probably cheaper,just like the hurlers are we helping young coaches,get up to standard?if not,we are just going to yo-yo between outsider and insider with no real plan.

i would love to see the county board taking this serious.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 18/05/2018 14:44:28    2101981

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Lads anyone in at the Minor game? five scores for the whole game, is this age group not supposed tp play the game with abandon and go for it? is that what is wrong with the game in Wexford right now?

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1805 - 24/05/2018 17:10:19    2103625

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didnt make it either,we just cant seem to make any inroads at underage in either code.head-scratching.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 25/05/2018 08:47:14    2103726

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Was in at it. Just not at the races at all. 7-2 down at half time and only really got into it right at the end when Laois had made a few subs and the game was over. Couple of late goals just put a gloss on the scoreline.

The mentors are doing good work with the lads. They've trained well and been organised. But sometimes the quality just isnt there. For whatever reason, this U17 group across the hurling and football are one of the weaker bunches in years. Thats no slight on the players, just a reality that there have been better teams over the previous years. It happens, for no real reason at times. Next years hurlers should be decent, quite a few U16s on this years panel I believe. Both teams this year are doing as well as they can, they've trained hard and worked well.

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 25/05/2018 09:50:32    2103738

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Home to Waterford in the qualifiers.

Sliotharyslope (Wexford) - Posts: 136 - 28/05/2018 09:29:10    2104537

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You would hope common sense prevails ... and the match is set for Sunday or Saturday at 1 or 2 so supporters can get in both games ...." it's the hope .....".

Also am I the only one that has the feeling of what if having seen laois and w/meath .

wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 28/05/2018 11:04:04    2104631

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lads,a thought here,would you be willing to concede home advantage to play the match in kilkenny before the hurling?
i dont know myself,but it is the only way there would be more than a few hundred at it,lets face it.
a clash is barely avoidable otherwise,with waterford in the hurling on sunday also.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 28/05/2018 14:07:45    2104761

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Replying To perfect10:  "lads,a thought here,would you be willing to concede home advantage to play the match in kilkenny before the hurling?
i dont know myself,but it is the only way there would be more than a few hundred at it,lets face it.
a clash is barely avoidable otherwise,with waterford in the hurling on sunday also."
Well in that case no way would I give up home advantage... it would make sense if people would bother to go see the footballers before the hurling but we all know they will not.

The hurling is on tv so once they are both not on at the same time then everyone will be able see what they want to see.

wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 28/05/2018 15:37:56    2104840

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Replying To perfect10:  "lads,a thought here,would you be willing to concede home advantage to play the match in kilkenny before the hurling?
i dont know myself,but it is the only way there would be more than a few hundred at it,lets face it.
a clash is barely avoidable otherwise,with waterford in the hurling on sunday also."
I would, definitely. What use is the home advantage really anyway to Wexford? Completely outnumbered against Laois at home and when the game was on the line, the Laois crowd really pushed their lads on, whereas we had damn all there to do anything to get anything going from a crowd perspective. Nowlan Park is a decent pitch too. Realistically, we should be good enough to beat Waterford, so I'd prefer the lads to play in front of a decent crowd and get some momentum going. If we couldnt beat Waterford just because the game goes from Wexford to Kilkenny, then we're totally at nothing this year.

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 28/05/2018 15:49:24    2104848

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