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I saw someone mention Ed Sheeran as a possible distraction from the crowd yesterday. Lets be honest here, anyone going to that concert isn't prioritising GAA. Slightly mad

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1421 - 13/05/2018 20:57:44    2100200

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I have beaten the supporter (or lack of ) for a long time but to be fair if you are a duel supporter over the next 5 weeks your shelling out a hundred quid on tickets alone for one person.

With the new round Robin system in hurling it's going to become an expensive hobbie and I do agree May is hectic month for other pleasures.

Leinster playing in champions cup final would have takin away from "casual" supporters.

But it's still a horrible feeling in your own ground to hear the opposition fans chanting and nothing from the home crowd.

Also I taught the park looked excellent on Saturday and also the jerseys worn by the footballers were amazing really wish we could have them full time.

wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 14/05/2018 08:23:42    2100334

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Replying To wexcore:  "I have beaten the supporter (or lack of ) for a long time but to be fair if you are a duel supporter over the next 5 weeks your shelling out a hundred quid on tickets alone for one person.

With the new round Robin system in hurling it's going to become an expensive hobbie and I do agree May is hectic month for other pleasures.

Leinster playing in champions cup final would have takin away from "casual" supporters.

But it's still a horrible feeling in your own ground to hear the opposition fans chanting and nothing from the home crowd.

Also I taught the park looked excellent on Saturday and also the jerseys worn by the footballers were amazing really wish we could have them full time."
that was my point.i have always thought gaa should give anybody with a season ticket for hurling/football in 1 code,let them in to christy ring/maher cup,or football say,for 10 euro and let kids go free.or pool the 1st hurling and football matches for a county into package for 25/30 euro.it will not mean a full house,but might get some more through the gates.if they want to promote both games iin dual counties like our own.
extranjero,if i was to go to wexford park on saturday,with 3 children,i would have shelled out 50-60 euro.
at 20 quid for adults,the gaa have maxed out what people will pay for a championship match.
what will happen in the round robin,is a big crowd for home games,and no wexford at tullamore,and kilkenny depend on whether they can qualify for leinster final.
not everybody can get to every game though.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 14/05/2018 08:44:53    2100341

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Fair play to the lads, that performance definitely surprised me. I said anything worse than a two point loss would be very poor. They brought a better team to extra time and will learn a lot. Plenty of heart and hard work.

Someone mentioned that there were only 3 Good Counsel men: Mick Furlong, Ben Brosnan and Paul Curtis. I think only Eoin Porter, John Tubritt and Darragh Lyons of the subs are Counsel men of the subs. 6 is less than I'd imagine they would have. It'll be interesting to see what the panel will be next year under new management.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 14/05/2018 19:39:02    2100739

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Fair play to the lads, that performance definitely surprised me. I said anything worse than a two point loss would be very poor. They brought a better team to extra time and will learn a lot. Plenty of heart and hard work.

Someone mentioned that there were only 3 Good Counsel men: Mick Furlong, Ben Brosnan and Paul Curtis. I think only Eoin Porter, John Tubritt and Darragh Lyons of the subs are Counsel men of the subs. 6 is less than I'd imagine they would have. It'll be interesting to see what the panel will be next year under new management."
why will there be new management next year?

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2844 - 14/05/2018 20:22:19    2100761

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Everyone is saying that the Wexford team showed great heart and they should take a lot from the games etc. The reality is they were ten points up at one stage and if they can't finish a team off with that advantage the probably don't deserve to win. Why would Paul McLoughlin be leaving next year??

P&G (Wexford) - Posts: 14 - 15/05/2018 07:46:51    2100840

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Fair play to the lads, that performance definitely surprised me. I said anything worse than a two point loss would be very poor. They brought a better team to extra time and will learn a lot. Plenty of heart and hard work.

Someone mentioned that there were only 3 Good Counsel men: Mick Furlong, Ben Brosnan and Paul Curtis. I think only Eoin Porter, John Tubritt and Darragh Lyons of the subs are Counsel men of the subs. 6 is less than I'd imagine they would have. It'll be interesting to see what the panel will be next year under new management."
I think your being a bit harsh on the management. I mean we came off possibly our worst year in over a decade.

We have totally changed our game plan ( thank Christ) which would take awhile to implement. We have found a very good goalkeeper two good wing backs and some good forwards .

I was against mcloughlin getting the job but now I think he deserves another year. Also I think we need to but more emphasis at underage which is starting to happen.

The best part is it looks like the players are actually enjoying the football.

I just think barring a hammering against a team (from divison 3 or 4) in the qualifiers an up heavel in management would be more of a problem then a fix.

wexcore (Wexford) - Posts: 740 - 15/05/2018 08:23:18    2100843

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a question has to be asked of the referee,how or why he told the penalty taker that it was the last kick?
did i hear it right?
if we had known it was last kick sure would have went for goal.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 15/05/2018 08:35:44    2100845

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Replying To perfect10:  "a question has to be asked of the referee,how or why he told the penalty taker that it was the last kick?
did i hear it right?
if we had known it was last kick sure would have went for goal."
"If we had known it was the last kick sure would have went for goal" ?????

Surely if was supposed to be the last kick the obvious thing to do was take the winning point.

yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 15/05/2018 10:14:36    2100870

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Replying To perfect10:  "a question has to be asked of the referee,how or why he told the penalty taker that it was the last kick?
did i hear it right?
if we had known it was last kick sure would have went for goal."
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if it was last kick knock it over and win by one, if it wasn't go for goal...

comc (Wexford) - Posts: 108 - 15/05/2018 11:03:24    2100897

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Replying To comc:  "?

if it was last kick knock it over and win by one, if it wasn't go for goal..."
I presume that was a typo error from perfect10, if not it doesn't make sense to me.

yelowbelly (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 15/05/2018 12:11:49    2100936

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sorry,other way round.typo.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 15/05/2018 12:16:15    2100941

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Last year was not the worst year in a decade. We got promotion from Division 4, which we had failed to do the year previous. This year we lost to every Division 3 team except for Armagh's B team. And on Sunday, whether we like it or not, we lost to a Division 4 team. This has been the worst year in my memory, worse than Banty and worse than David Power. So far anyway. Maybe we will beat someone in the qualifiers, which I hope to God we do. But having lost to every team in competition this year except Armagh's B team, I don't think this has been good, not one bit.

And let me say I know a lot of the lads on the panel and know they are working like hell. Credit to them to keep putting it in, keep soldiering on and to have almost gotten the win on Sunday I think surprised all of us on here.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 15/05/2018 13:23:00    2100965

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caven or mayo away now is the nightmare, london louth or offaly at home is the dream, one thing not mentioned here, we are not near the level of fitness modern football requires,

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2844 - 15/05/2018 17:13:31    2101083

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Last year was not the worst year in a decade. We got promotion from Division 4, which we had failed to do the year previous. This year we lost to every Division 3 team except for Armagh's B team. And on Sunday, whether we like it or not, we lost to a Division 4 team. This has been the worst year in my memory, worse than Banty and worse than David Power. So far anyway. Maybe we will beat someone in the qualifiers, which I hope to God we do. But having lost to every team in competition this year except Armagh's B team, I don't think this has been good, not one bit.

And let me say I know a lot of the lads on the panel and know they are working like hell. Credit to them to keep putting it in, keep soldiering on and to have almost gotten the win on Sunday I think surprised all of us on here."
Banty seems to be getting credit when he was brutal. He won the same amount of games in Div 4 as Powers "failed" final year, it just happened other results went Bantys way and they were promoted, whereas Power didnt get that luck. We had an abysmal championship last year. Follow on to this season, and we have had a turnover I read elsewhere of 17 players. That is absolutely massive. The team and panel are almost unrecognisable from 3 seasons ago. McLoughlin is almost starting from scratch with a very inexperienced and young team. We had a large number of players making their championship debut on Saturday (Glen Malone, James Stafford, Shane Doyle, Curtis had ten minutes at the end against Monaghan last year, Pepper, Porter, Nolan, Shannon came on too.) 7 Players making their championship debut. Thats huge.

Looking at last years final game against Monaghan, 8 of the starting 15 are still in the squad and only 3 of the subs who came on are still around. So 11 of 21 championship players are still available this year. No team would cope well with that sort of turnover, particularly given the quality of some of the players who left (Lyng, Banville, Roche, Flynn, Kehoe)

This year was very much a work in progress. And the lads stayed competitive in a very tough Division 3 and showed well in their opening championship game. Rome wasnt built in a day, and considering the apathy to football in this county, we cant expect miracles

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 15/05/2018 20:36:22    2101156

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Turnover of players is nothing new. Aidan O'Brien had similar issues in his time after taking over from Ryan. I wasn't trying to make out that Banty did a good job. What I am trying to say is that we had Power, Banty and now McLoughlin and from what I see nothing has changed. I disagree that we were "competitive" in Division 3. We were poor and lost to everyone apart from the Armagh subs. An extra time loss to a side who were in Division 4 all year is nothing to boast about. We lost to Offaly and look at the mess they're in. Both Antrim and Derry will be favourites to get promoted from Division 4 next year ahead of us. I'm saying that McLoughlin has been no improvement. Yeah, he has had to deal with new players, but that's nothing new.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 16/05/2018 21:38:06    2101526

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Turnover of players is nothing new. Aidan O'Brien had similar issues in his time after taking over from Ryan. I wasn't trying to make out that Banty did a good job. What I am trying to say is that we had Power, Banty and now McLoughlin and from what I see nothing has changed. I disagree that we were "competitive" in Division 3. We were poor and lost to everyone apart from the Armagh subs. An extra time loss to a side who were in Division 4 all year is nothing to boast about. We lost to Offaly and look at the mess they're in. Both Antrim and Derry will be favourites to get promoted from Division 4 next year ahead of us. I'm saying that McLoughlin has been no improvement. Yeah, he has had to deal with new players, but that's nothing new."
It not the manager fault. The truth is we just don't have the players.dress it up any way you like but that the reality.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 941 - 16/05/2018 23:11:26    2101549

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Replying To hunting:  "It not the manager fault. The truth is we just don't have the players.dress it up any way you like but that the reality."
Well if that's the case we all need to apply the same to Power and Banty.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 17/05/2018 08:52:27    2101594

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Replying To icehonesty:  "Turnover of players is nothing new. Aidan O'Brien had similar issues in his time after taking over from Ryan. I wasn't trying to make out that Banty did a good job. What I am trying to say is that we had Power, Banty and now McLoughlin and from what I see nothing has changed. I disagree that we were "competitive" in Division 3. We were poor and lost to everyone apart from the Armagh subs. An extra time loss to a side who were in Division 4 all year is nothing to boast about. We lost to Offaly and look at the mess they're in. Both Antrim and Derry will be favourites to get promoted from Division 4 next year ahead of us. I'm saying that McLoughlin has been no improvement. Yeah, he has had to deal with new players, but that's nothing new."
The turnover of players is certainly unusual, particularly the amount of experience in that turnover. We've never had so many leave leaving little experience behind. When the likes of Red, David Murphy etc retired, at least it left experienced players behind and the turnover was minimal reaction.

And as said above, we just dont have the players. They need time. Saying a team in Div 4 beating us as if its a bad thing, they won Div 4 at a canter after a disastrous year last year. And its not as if they beat us out the gate. A bit more experience and guile and Wexford would have own that game. As long as the team and management learn from it

james2011 (Wexford) - Posts: 602 - 17/05/2018 09:26:31    2101598

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I really enjoyed the game last Saturday evening in Wexford Park.
it was open exciting football the sort that would make any children who were in there want to play football in the future.
We should have won though that's the cold hard facts about it. It probably should never have come to needing to decide whether to kick a penalty late in the game over or under the bar. We should have done like Dublin in the 2017 All Ireland Final and wrestled every Laois player to the ground for the kick out.
I was very happy with the performance of a lot of the players Shanley, Tubritt, G. Malone, Jim Rossiter, Nevin Rossiter they are all the future and there is hope in these guys.
Should have won it though a win of any sort in the qualifiers would be fantastic for a team who train as hard if not harder than the hurlers with very little rewards or praise from the county. The attendance last Saturday in Wexford Park was a disgrace but as I've said before those who were there were treated to an entertaining night with real GAA around them. This Sunday for every genuine fan in the park there will be the bandwagon jumpers who will drive the boot into the hurlers the very minute anything goes wrong.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 17/05/2018 10:19:43    2101615

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