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Naill Carew has resigned, whilst serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,
The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.
Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.
No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.
For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...
If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.
Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options
Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.
No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 07/09/2017 11:49:10
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I'm led to believe it's player driven.
A O'Hara/McGowan ticket is the early front runners surely...
NewSligofan (Sligo) - Posts: 258 - 07/09/2017 12:05:09
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Replying To Sligonian: "Naill Carew has resigned, whilst serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,
The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.
Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.
No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.
For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...
If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.
Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options
Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.
No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?" Best wishes to Mr Carew but, in truth we were going nowhere under his tutelage or brand of football. Grapevine has it that quite a number of the panel were not returning to the fold and this may hastened his departure. Would have serious reservations about the so called depth of talent at underage and whether it will materialise or come to fruition..................think of St Marys under age teams that were winning all before them right through the ranks and where are they now. Not slagging off the townies but, too often we see this unfortunately repeated.
Club football is possibly at an all time low and this can be benchmarked each year with our success (or lack of it) in the Connacht Club championships. The new manager will do well if he or she can keep us in Division 3 and any aspirations above this are purely fanatical. Finally, it would make you wonder is it worth a players time to do all the training and preparatory work to play a few league games and perhaps at best two or if they are lucky, three championship games.
heiffero (Sligo) - Posts: 11 - 07/09/2017 12:33:41
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Why didn't he come out and just gives us the real reasons? Hearing strong rumours of player driven or else he is eyeing up another job.
The Co.board really need to deliver now there's a lot of pressure on the them.
Rory Gallagher, Pete McGrath and Banty could all be candidates. I'd like to see us go big and approach someone like James Horan. I don't think the O'Hara/McGowan syndicate is ready just yet, no other creditable local candidates spring to mind
pointman2007 (Sligo) - Posts: 188 - 07/09/2017 12:48:45
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Do you not think James Horan, Rory Gallagher, Tony McEntee etc,,, is the way to go? Think the players deserve it and we need an outside perspective who's been part of and created a winning culture.
McGowan, O Hara, Rooney etc as selectors for now imo. O Hara's day as manager will come no doubt but hes needs to take on u17 or u20 county manager role successfully first or another club to success for me. Taylor is not an option for me, great player in his day.
I just feel we need a big name with the substance and know how to back it up to get us going again. There is a psychological boost when a manager comes in with a winning track record at this level and i feel looking at our losing record in Connacht finals we need it.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 07/09/2017 13:20:33
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For me also it is hugely encouraging to see this coming from the players too it must be said. I've met most and they are a credit to the county on/off the field.
The current 5 man management committee cannot be allowed to have free rein on the next appointment. Players representatives need to be strongly involved in the shortlisting, interviews and appointment of any candidate.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 07/09/2017 14:37:41
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Replying To Sligonian: "Naill Carew has resigned, whilst serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,
The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.
Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.
No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.
For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...
If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.
Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options
Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.
No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?" What a load of horse manure from that poster. The Co Board is responsible for the management of each Co team. They will appoint a sub cttee to find our next manager. It will probably be influenced by the players but ultimately the Co Board will make the appointment. There are name's been thrown out but no one is mentioning how much will these managers cost. Gaelic football is weak and this is shown by small crowds at all our club games. We won't be able to offer a big financial package to any big name manager.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1668 - 07/09/2017 15:15:39
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I thought Kevin Walsh was a good manager. He just stayed a year too long. We need to find someone similar. A big name with plenty of experience with good teams and looking to cut his teeth in management. Several ex Mayo/Donegal/Galway players that would fit the bill.
townbuck (Leitrim) - Posts: 197 - 07/09/2017 16:08:17
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Replying To townbuck: "I thought Kevin Walsh was a good manager. He just stayed a year too long. We need to find someone similar. A big name with plenty of experience with good teams and looking to cut his teeth in management. Several ex Mayo/Donegal/Galway players that would fit the bill." Very few had better credentials than Kevin Walsh!
What's needed is not All- Ireland medals or All-Stars.
Give me a superb man manager and motivator and I don't care if it's a nun , parson or Bishop.
Maggiepie (Sligo) - Posts: 231 - 07/09/2017 16:45:03
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Nothing against Carew but we needed a change.
He probably wouldn't be interested but I'd love to see Fergie O'Donnell as our new manager.
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Time for the CB to break the bank and give someone big an incentive to join a so called weaker county. Likes of James Horan, Fergal O'Donnell. 2012 was the last serious Sligo side...need a big name in..can't have another 3 years like the last....
john.no1 (Sligo) - Posts: 465 - 07/09/2017 18:27:19
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I don't want an outside manager. We have had a few now and it's time to get one of our own. Plenty of options in our own county. Taylor, Mc Gowan, Sloyne, MC Partland, Durkin, Pat Kilcoyne, Mc Guide, Carty Etc etc but not O Hara, or Rooney
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1668 - 07/09/2017 19:11:18
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Replying To john.no1: "Time for the CB to break the bank and give someone big an incentive to join a so called weaker county. Likes of James Horan, Fergal O'Donnell. 2012 was the last serious Sligo side...need a big name in..can't have another 3 years like the last...." Interesting to see your county linked with one of our own. Last few jobs for FOD haven't gone that well. Was over Kiloe in Longford this year and well bet in 1/4 final. A well public documented fall out with Kevin McStay last year with Roscommon after a disasterous championship. Managed his own club Ross gaels prior to that and again ended in tears when they were hot favourites. Very defensive and parallysis by analysis reputation.
Speaking with some sligo lads today at work indicated players had a major say. Meeting with co board was the catalyst for change. Any truth in that??
SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 273 - 07/09/2017 19:50:38
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Replying To john.no1: "Time for the CB to break the bank and give someone big an incentive to join a so called weaker county. Likes of James Horan, Fergal O'Donnell. 2012 was the last serious Sligo side...need a big name in..can't have another 3 years like the last...." James horan and fod not like for like
Fergal wud prob jump at the Sligo job
Don't think horan wud tbh
rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 620 - 07/09/2017 21:00:32
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Replying To SmokieRoss: "Interesting to see your county linked with one of our own. Last few jobs for FOD haven't gone that well. Was over Kiloe in Longford this year and well bet in 1/4 final. A well public documented fall out with Kevin McStay last year with Roscommon after a disasterous championship. Managed his own club Ross gaels prior to that and again ended in tears when they were hot favourites. Very defensive and parallysis by analysis reputation.
Speaking with some sligo lads today at work indicated players had a major say. Meeting with co board was the catalyst for change. Any truth in that??" What a load of rubbish. Killoe were beaten in a replay by the best team in longford so no failure there.
Fergie wasn't manager of Roscommon Gaels, he helped out his good friend Liam McNeill who was the manager.
Personally I think Fergie would be a good fit for Sligo at the moment and has the ability to bring them up into Div 2.
reffingmad (Roscommon) - Posts: 371 - 07/09/2017 22:21:54
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I tell you guys what is more worrying. No u17 manager appointed yet. The Ted Webb concluded last night, the Manning Cup begins next month and also school football will soon commence. Surely a new manager should be place to watch these competitions. The u16s had very poor team performances apart from the first Leitrim game. A lot of potential though, Duffy, Smyth, Sweeney, Barrett, Perry and Murphy all look like gems. Hopefully it stands to them and they improve for the Manning Cup. Must say it was very interesting to see a Rovers player taking part.
NewSligofan (Sligo) - Posts: 258 - 09/09/2017 10:43:44
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Replying To NewSligofan: "I tell you guys what is more worrying. No u17 manager appointed yet. The Ted Webb concluded last night, the Manning Cup begins next month and also school football will soon commence. Surely a new manager should be place to watch these competitions. The u16s had very poor team performances apart from the first Leitrim game. A lot of potential though, Duffy, Smyth, Sweeney, Barrett, Perry and Murphy all look like gems. Hopefully it stands to them and they improve for the Manning Cup. Must say it was very interesting to see a Rovers player taking part." Ex Rover player. If he was a current player he wouldn't be allowed.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1668 - 09/09/2017 13:29:55
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Replying To eoinog: "Ex Rover player. If he was a current player he wouldn't be allowed." Wrong. Playing today for rovers.
NewSligofan (Sligo) - Posts: 258 - 09/09/2017 15:35:05
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Lots of Opinions on the new Manager,
I sounded quite a few people on my choices, there is mixed opinions on McEntee, he is valuable to Mayo no doubt about that,
Horan and Gallagher unlikely to take it, or be approached but would be very good choices and i would at least approach them as matter of interest.
Some people mentioning Connelly and Holmes as a option, mixed stuff on them aswell although i have to say that Mayo performance in 2015 connacht final was the best prepared team I've seen in July,
Other obscure options Mick Bohan a coach previously with Clare, Dublin has a great reputation as coach and Ryan Porter Monaghans no2 another, inexperienced as Managers though.
Fergal O Donnell certainly outsmarted us in 2010, and i feel would be a good option, he guided Roscommon up the leagues aswell and minor All Ireland, i feel he would relish it as he left Roscommon in acrimonious circumstances. There are rumours he is the frontrunner.
I suppose what my sentiment is I don't trust the 5 man committee with appointing the best man, Carew was hired and reappointed by them, but O Donnell like appointment would help restore some faith and maybe we could get lucky for once.
I feel also keeping Rooney as a selector would be good and important especially as there's a bit of gap now from u20s to the step up to Senior,
We need to focus on bringing through the u21s and u18s of this year, we need to develop those players, physically and mentally, to be able handle the pressure that's to come, some of the Older players cant be the focus and hopefully wont over stay their careers, I hope the player power to remove Carew wasn't from them in a case of self preservation.
Local option as manager would be disappointing and reinforce the continued lack of ambition by County Board but id be happy with Fergal O Donnell
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1642 - 11/09/2017 15:24:37
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It's a pity that the players didn't convey the message to the Co Board that they were unhappy with Carew before he was appointed. Makes the players look immature and silly (to put it mildly)
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1668 - 11/09/2017 18:52:13
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