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Appointment of All-Ireland SFC final referee

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Replying To catch22:  "What like one from ulster like in 2010 Leinster final who would do a good job because he was neutral?
That worked out well alright !"
Wow you picked a game where a ref made a mistake, must have been tough for you.

Pick a ref with no connection with either team , its really not hard to understand my point. Dont know why your referring to something which happened years ago.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 02/09/2017 22:05:41    2042003

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Surely to god whoever gets the job will go into it wanting to be remembered as the man who did a perfect job. Thinking he will go in to influence the game is pretty ridiculous in my opinion and if he makes a bad call then he will probably feel awful when he sees it on replay. Forget the ref and let battle commence !

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 649 - 02/09/2017 22:28:27    2042011

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Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "Wow you picked a game where a ref made a mistake, must have been tough for you.

Pick a ref with no connection with either team , its really not hard to understand my point. Dont know why your referring to something which happened years ago."
Yeah, it is a pretty simple point alright. You are suggesting that somehow the best ref for the job should be limited to outside the province involved as though that will somehow make them a better referee.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 02/09/2017 22:33:29    2042014

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Replying To hipster:  "And you do haha , bringing the integrity of our refs into dispute is repulsive"
Repulsive ? Disgusting ? Any other word to show how outraged you are get a grip.
Never once was a refs integrity questioned nor will you find any post from me critical of refs, they are human and they make mistakes like the rest of us.
I was questioning the appointment by the GAA of refs that are residing in the county they are officiating.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 02/09/2017 22:36:51    2042015

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Replying To catch22:  "Yeah, it is a pretty simple point alright. You are suggesting that somehow the best ref for the job should be limited to outside the province involved as though that will somehow make them a better referee."
The appointment of referees with close ties to certain counties has been an issue the last few years, pick a ref with no connections would be a fairer, nowhere did i say it would make the ref better.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 02/09/2017 22:46:06    2042017

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Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "The appointment of referees with close ties to certain counties has been an issue the last few years, pick a ref with no connections would be a fairer, nowhere did i say it would make the ref better."
How is it somehow fairer because the ref is from a different province. The ref is chosen on ability not geographically.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 02/09/2017 23:03:45    2042023

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I have to laugh at all the Kerry lads being so concerned who is referee for a game of footbal between Dublin & Mayo.

If Kerry were playing Mayo, I wouldnt give 2 hoots who was the ref.
Wouldnt concern me in the slightest.
Are they that desperate to see the Dubs being beaten in two weeks time.?????

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3732 - 02/09/2017 23:10:15    2042028

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Let's hope it's not used as a stick to beat a certain county IF a certain ref is picked for the final.....I won't hold my breath, though.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 03/09/2017 00:22:51    2042037

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Replying To westkerry:  "Repulsive ? Disgusting ? Any other word to show how outraged you are get a grip.
Never once was a refs integrity questioned nor will you find any post from me critical of refs, they are human and they make mistakes like the rest of us.
I was questioning the appointment by the GAA of refs that are residing in the county they are officiating."
Don't be playing politics ,

hipster (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 03/09/2017 04:58:06    2042051

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The OP has mentioned that nobody has answered his question. I see loads of answers. Obviously not the answer they want.

Almost every ref has some form of connection with every county.
could be from there
could live there
wife could be from there
they could have went to college there
it could be same province you are from
you could work there and not live there
you could have refereed a vs b games for a county (lol)
you have refereed a semi final where that team participated
you may have history refereeing that county (good or bad)

My point is if your looking for an excuse your gonna find one.

At the end of the day the best ref every year should get the final once they are not from that county. We are lucky to have any refs these days the way they get slated. I am as bad for it as anyone but id never ref. its an impossible, thankless task.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 03/09/2017 06:50:33    2042052

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Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "The appointment of referees with close ties to certain counties has been an issue the last few years, pick a ref with no connections would be a fairer, nowhere did i say it would make the ref better."
Then the best ref wherever they come from will do the best job of refereeing.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 03/09/2017 08:11:48    2042059

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Replying To Fionn:  "I have to laugh at all the Kerry lads being so concerned who is referee for a game of footbal between Dublin & Mayo.

If Kerry were playing Mayo, I wouldnt give 2 hoots who was the ref.
Wouldnt concern me in the slightest.
Are they that desperate to see the Dubs being beaten in two weeks time.?????"
certainly looks like it.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 03/09/2017 10:17:29    2042082

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If Dublin win then it will obviously be because of the ref's "connections" to the county and not because of ability, always excuses with some people here as to why a team wins or loses.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 03/09/2017 11:59:08    2042100

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To all the above Dublin supporters, no where in my post where Dublin mentioned.
Not everything GAA is about Dublin.
Furthermore I don't have a history of anti Dublin posts the opposite actually.
I asked a question regarding the appointment of match officials who live in a county they are officiating.
Why would I be looking for excuses? Kerry were comprehensible beaten so I've no need for excuses.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 03/09/2017 12:59:32    2042124

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Genuinely wouldn't be bothered if they gave the ref to someone living in Castlebar. I think its wrong that that info is public knowledge though im sure refs have families and a right to live their lives in privacy.

A lot of Dublin games are often reffed by lads from Meath, thats the biggest rivalry in football and never is it a an issue.

For peace sake sure give it to someone from Connacht, its a non issue really, only for those who are regular loosers.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/09/2017 13:59:54    2042142

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Excellent common sense performance from Fergal Horgan in the hurling final
Football refs could take a leaf out of hes book

RAHKILL (Westmeath) - Posts: 395 - 03/09/2017 19:35:54    2042273

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It doesn't matter who refs matches but what does matter is they should be held accountable for their actions I know they are not going to get every call right it's understandable but they def need more help from lines men and umpires and i do think we will be heading for TMO before long especially for big calls.Every team in the country put so much effort in and a bad decision from a bad ref could cost them everything they have worked for the year and it's very hard to take and yet the GAA wont do anything about it why not .No ref has a clue about the black card

mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 240 - 04/09/2017 01:42:09    2042400

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Well done to Galway, hard luck to Waterford, the ref had a decent game yesterday, any chance of the hurling refs over football matches, some of the tackles yesterday were hard and would have been frees and bookings in football, has football become soft? It isn't half as tough as the hurling matches

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 04/09/2017 08:30:10    2042416

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Replying To dstuction:  "The OP has mentioned that nobody has answered his question. I see loads of answers. Obviously not the answer they want.

Almost every ref has some form of connection with every county.
could be from there
could live there
wife could be from there
they could have went to college there
it could be same province you are from
you could work there and not live there
you could have refereed a vs b games for a county (lol)
you have refereed a semi final where that team participated
you may have history refereeing that county (good or bad)

My point is if your looking for an excuse your gonna find one.

At the end of the day the best ref every year should get the final once they are not from that county. We are lucky to have any refs these days the way they get slated. I am as bad for it as anyone but id never ref. its an impossible, thankless task."
Excellent post

By the same thinking living in Dublin influences you ??????
Well no one told my office , all country folk openly cheering against Dublin , some living working here for years , one Galway lad alone walking around in a Dubs jersey , he's a lone wolf.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/09/2017 10:49:24    2042468

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Thank you for all the responses above,
Appreciate everyone's views and lots good points were made.
I want to say that at no point was I questioning the integrity of our refs.
I was just raising an issue that I wanted others views on.
I'd suggest HS admin close this thread as I don't want it turning into a platform for criticism of referees.
Let the build up to the big game be about the football and nothing else.
Regards and best wishes to both teams and fans.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 04/09/2017 11:16:17    2042483

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