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Replying To RoryGall35:  "I think the overall feeling from about 85% of the people here is that bonner should not have not gotten the 2 years and I for one would have to agree. But he is our manger now and we have to stick by him for this year. On a slightly different point.. Does anyone know what's exactly is going on with Kiaran Gillespie..? I've heard he's done his knee again but I follow him on Instagram and he's looking very fit punping the weights out.. Surely to god if he done his cruciate he wouldn't be able to do them weights he's putting up on Instagram.???"
Whether it 85% or 15%, he was the only candidate, it's sad in a county the size of Donegal that there wasn't a few candidates. Donegal GAA people can't bitch and moan that he got another 2 years when they didn't put forward an alternative choice. Murphy has got 2 more years Inter county football at top level in him, so there is no point to rebuilding now, best they can do is keep going as is for a couple of years. With the backdoor coming back, Donegal can look forward to plenty of big days even if they don't win Ulster. Then invest in a young team and give young coaches in the county a chance and try and build something

KerrymanStuckInDonegal (Kerry) - Posts: 269 - 04/09/2021 11:47:08    2377727

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Replying To panamasam:  "Seriously Declan Bonner and Mickey Harte not even comparable."
Who's saying they are. I never compared them. My point was that poster said that Tyrone wudnt put up with them not competing at the top level my answer being Donegal and Monaghan had there number this last decade and Micky still held on. There were no back door this last two years to gave any manager a fair chance. Donegal before covid we're flying. So it's only right he gets to manage them hopefully in normal times again. Are we going to debate all year why he got his extension, bonner is the manager now and it's time to move on and support him and the team. People on about 80 per cent not wanting him.?how do they come to that number. 80 per cent of hogan stand posters, don't make me laugh, keyboard warrior don't exist in my life.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 04/09/2021 13:17:06    2377739

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Who's saying they are. I never compared them. My point was that poster said that Tyrone wudnt put up with them not competing at the top level my answer being Donegal and Monaghan had there number this last decade and Micky still held on. There were no back door this last two years to gave any manager a fair chance. Donegal before covid we're flying. So it's only right he gets to manage them hopefully in normal times again. Are we going to debate all year why he got his extension, bonner is the manager now and it's time to move on and support him and the team. People on about 80 per cent not wanting him.?how do they come to that number. 80 per cent of hogan stand posters, don't make me laugh, keyboard warrior don't exist in my life."
If you just talk to your typical Donegal fan I think it's safe to say that everyone of them I know wanted change, we wanted rid of Rory Gallagher too, Declan is a great fella and done so much for Donegal both as a player and manager but he doesn't seem to have what it takes to take us to the top level,
I wish him all the best and hope I'm wrong but I think we are going nowhere with him in charge, but it is what it is as they say nowadays, we are stuck with it.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2757 - 04/09/2021 21:33:34    2377842

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Replying To RoryGall35:  "I think the overall feeling from about 85% of the people here is that bonner should not have not gotten the 2 years and I for one would have to agree. But he is our manger now and we have to stick by him for this year. On a slightly different point.. Does anyone know what's exactly is going on with Kiaran Gillespie..? I've heard he's done his knee again but I follow him on Instagram and he's looking very fit punping the weights out.. Surely to god if he done his cruciate he wouldn't be able to do them weights he's putting up on Instagram.???"
I heard Gillespie did the cruciate again yeah. The guy has absolutely no luck and has done everything he can to get back from serious injuries. I don't think he has played county football since 2017 is that right ? Even at that I think he only played a few games that year because of injuries.

I'm no expert on Injuries nor do I use Instagram so can't comment a wild lot on that. I know surgery isn't always needed after a cruciate injury like paddy mcgrath a few years ago and think Kieran McGeeney was the same with his. It could be prehab work before undergoing surgery either way it's likely he's going to miss another year of football.

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 04/09/2021 23:01:05    2377853

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Cavan weren't a fourth division team last year. Your a bluffer. I can't really take you serious anymore."
I have followed dgl football since i can remember I was making a few valid points about the fact that dgl were beat in an Ulster final by a team currently operating in div 4 ...if we want to get picky about a few months then that's bit childish to be honest... I will be following the team through thick and thin i always have and I will in 2022 ...im just giving my opinion on where i think this set up is going but if a small percentage can't accept my opinion that's fair enough.

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 05/09/2021 10:07:06    2377873

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Replying To marty234:  "I have followed dgl football since i can remember I was making a few valid points about the fact that dgl were beat in an Ulster final by a team currently operating in div 4 ...if we want to get picky about a few months then that's bit childish to be honest... I will be following the team through thick and thin i always have and I will in 2022 ...im just giving my opinion on where i think this set up is going but if a small percentage can't accept my opinion that's fair enough."
Get your facts right nothing I hate more than people making up facts to suit your own agenda.. if your such a big Donegal supporter you wudnt be on here criticising bonner with every post you make. I've read through your posts you hibernate when we won but when we lose your like the other poster first person back on. Grow up nothing wrong with criticising when your fair about it.. I criticised managers my self but when they done well I would be the first to praise them. Il test you out now, what players not on this year's squad would have made a difference, I probably know two players but I have concrete evidence these two wudnt commit.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 05/09/2021 10:54:04    2377880

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Get your facts right nothing I hate more than people making up facts to suit your own agenda.. if your such a big Donegal supporter you wudnt be on here criticising bonner with every post you make. I've read through your posts you hibernate when we won but when we lose your like the other poster first person back on. Grow up nothing wrong with criticising when your fair about it.. I criticised managers my self but when they done well I would be the first to praise them. Il test you out now, what players not on this year's squad would have made a difference, I probably know two players but I have concrete evidence these two wudnt commit."
Like of Michael Carroll, Cian Mulligan, Stephen mcbrearty , Ryan Cunningham, Charles Mcguinness would add really quality and presence to name a few off top of my head. But i really dont blame first 3 as they have never been given a fair go at it compared to some of current team. Look at likes of oisin gallen, conor o donnell and Jason mcgee this year disgrace they didnt get more chship time...listen to mchugh at half time in derry match- called out Donegal management for players they are putting on the field...its clear to everyone what is going on.. You can't see that thou 90percent want a change ...you and current management are in denial if you can't see this I'm not going to continue conversation as it pointless

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 05/09/2021 12:29:09    2377893

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Replying To marty234:  "Like of Michael Carroll, Cian Mulligan, Stephen mcbrearty , Ryan Cunningham, Charles Mcguinness would add really quality and presence to name a few off top of my head. But i really dont blame first 3 as they have never been given a fair go at it compared to some of current team. Look at likes of oisin gallen, conor o donnell and Jason mcgee this year disgrace they didnt get more chship time...listen to mchugh at half time in derry match- called out Donegal management for players they are putting on the field...its clear to everyone what is going on.. You can't see that thou 90percent want a change ...you and current management are in denial if you can't see this I'm not going to continue conversation as it pointless"
Top 3 names were all in Bonner's squad and all walked away, what is management suppose to do chase them back and promise them game time. Are them 3 any better than the lads that started against Derry. I don't think so we all know who Mc hugh was on about and he's probably our most consistent player this last two years. If you want to play county football you need talent but you also need to want to be there and fight for the jersey not walk away if you don't get playing.. talent gets you part of the way but attitude is equally important. Funny of all the players you mentioned there's not one defender in it . Which is where our problem is. Il guarantee you that six would not be match winner s in any championship match. Your picking at straws now.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 05/09/2021 14:09:45    2377905

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Top 3 names were all in Bonner's squad and all walked away, what is management suppose to do chase them back and promise them game time. Are them 3 any better than the lads that started against Derry. I don't think so we all know who Mc hugh was on about and he's probably our most consistent player this last two years. If you want to play county football you need talent but you also need to want to be there and fight for the jersey not walk away if you don't get playing.. talent gets you part of the way but attitude is equally important. Funny of all the players you mentioned there's not one defender in it . Which is where our problem is. Il guarantee you that six would not be match winner s in any championship match. Your picking at straws now."
You said that we have a problem in defence, great to see you admit that. But my question is, what makes you think bonner is going to address that problem, considering he has not addressed it in 4 years.
Yes we play nice football, which is great. But in the big games, nice football or nice footballers dont always roll up there sleeves when the going gets tough.
That team needs leaders and a few more grafters, and i just dont see bonner adding that to our team.
Unless he adds a top quality defensive coach.
I will be as happy as anyone if he goes on to prove me wrong, as it annoys me in the big games since mcguinness left we have become soft in big games.
Bullied to easy.
There is plenty of talent in our county, its just a matter of managing it right and picking the right players.
All of the starting 15 dont have to be the best footballers, sometimes you need a few players that are going to piss off the opposition and get in the opposition faces.

The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 05/09/2021 16:43:11    2377925

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Top 3 names were all in Bonner's squad and all walked away, what is management suppose to do chase them back and promise them game time. Are them 3 any better than the lads that started against Derry. I don't think so we all know who Mc hugh was on about and he's probably our most consistent player this last two years. If you want to play county football you need talent but you also need to want to be there and fight for the jersey not walk away if you don't get playing.. talent gets you part of the way but attitude is equally important. Funny of all the players you mentioned there's not one defender in it . Which is where our problem is. Il guarantee you that six would not be match winner s in any championship match. Your picking at straws now."
There was 1 of the 6 oisin gallen that came on last year v Tyrone and probably won the game for donegal in a very tight affair I call that a match winner...martin mchugh was making reference to a lot more than just the 1 player...everyone know he was referencing at least 5/6 ...just 1 thing to say playing eoin McHugh at corner back against derry just about says it all really

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 05/09/2021 18:34:09    2377970

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Like the idea of coaching players into new positions. The Tyrone back line all play out the field for their clubs. Since we don't have defenders, why don't we mould them.? Anyone out their in the current squad or club teams that could be moulded into a defender?!

While I can't see Stephen Mc Brearty playing corner back(where our real issue lies) I always thought he'd make a great half back. Powerful, Strong runner.

TheRock2121 (Donegal) - Posts: 1142 - 05/09/2021 21:56:56    2378030

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Interesting listening to and reading about Offaly's pursuit of Tomas O'Sé over the weekend. For what would be considered a weaker county in footballing terms it didn't faze their county chairman to sell his vision to get Tomas on board. Pity our own didn't have the same foresight and ambition.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 808 - 06/09/2021 07:25:06    2378081

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Replying To The keeper:  "You said that we have a problem in defence, great to see you admit that. But my question is, what makes you think bonner is going to address that problem, considering he has not addressed it in 4 years.
Yes we play nice football, which is great. But in the big games, nice football or nice footballers dont always roll up there sleeves when the going gets tough.
That team needs leaders and a few more grafters, and i just dont see bonner adding that to our team.
Unless he adds a top quality defensive coach.
I will be as happy as anyone if he goes on to prove me wrong, as it annoys me in the big games since mcguinness left we have become soft in big games.
Bullied to easy.
There is plenty of talent in our county, its just a matter of managing it right and picking the right players.
All of the starting 15 dont have to be the best footballers, sometimes you need a few players that are going to piss off the opposition and get in the opposition faces."
I'm saying all along we have trouble in our defence. Sure everyone knows that. You say we have plenty talent in county, yea but we don't have talented tight marking defenders. Maybe you know who they are I would love to hear who they are..plenty name being put forward but still no defenders.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 06/09/2021 07:56:44    2378087

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Replying To marty234:  "There was 1 of the 6 oisin gallen that came on last year v Tyrone and probably won the game for donegal in a very tight affair I call that a match winner...martin mchugh was making reference to a lot more than just the 1 player...everyone know he was referencing at least 5/6 ...just 1 thing to say playing eoin McHugh at corner back against derry just about says it all really"
Are you telling me that there were 5 or 6 of the team that played Derry not up to county standard. Your talking rubbish if Mc Hugh thinks there not up to standard the five you mentioned do you think would be any better absolutely not.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 06/09/2021 08:00:32    2378088

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There is a lot of talk about our defence and out and out defenders etc but if you look at the big games we lost recently the story is different
Against Mayo in Castlebar we were out battled but got back in to the game with the penalty and then proceeded to kick a fortune of wides
Against Cavan we only scored 3 points in the second half and a goalkeeping error was the final nail in the coffin
Against Tyrone this year we were beaten as a result of a missed penalty and a sending off.We then got picked off by a team team that on paper is much stronger than we were but which we probably would have beaten only for the afforementioned incidents
All this talk about our defence is the usual lazy analysis. We do however have a problem in that not enough of our defenders are able to take a score which is crucial in the modern game.Note all three of the Tyrone full back line scored comfortable points against Kerry.Anybody with intellengence and controlled aggression can be coached to defend but you can't manufacture good footballers
But as I said above the big games we lost were not down to our defending.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1059 - 06/09/2021 12:44:31    2378195

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Replying To rorysboys:  "I'm saying all along we have trouble in our defence. Sure everyone knows that. You say we have plenty talent in county, yea but we don't have talented tight marking defenders. Maybe you know who they are I would love to hear who they are..plenty name being put forward but still no defenders."
As a county manager with talent in abundance you find them defenders or mould them...when mcguinness took over we had no no.6 or midfirks was poor...he developed lacey/mcloone into this area and developed kavanagh into a midfielder....in terms of club football the glenties fill back are meanest out there and havent seen 1 of their bacj 3 considered...thats jist off top of my head withoit thinking in other clubs..i think this task is beyond our current manager thou.. .on Derry game macniallias, gallen, Paul Brennan, Conor o Donnell, Jason mcgee it would take a good 5 to beat them boys...as well as players on pitch it was areas they were playing that annoyed people sone of things happening were shocking couldn't believe my eyes ...McHugh as well seen this and flipped he had enough

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 06/09/2021 12:56:30    2378201

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Replying To marty234:  "As a county manager with talent in abundance you find them defenders or mould them...when mcguinness took over we had no no.6 or midfirks was poor...he developed lacey/mcloone into this area and developed kavanagh into a midfielder....in terms of club football the glenties fill back are meanest out there and havent seen 1 of their bacj 3 considered...thats jist off top of my head withoit thinking in other clubs..i think this task is beyond our current manager thou.. .on Derry game macniallias, gallen, Paul Brennan, Conor o Donnell, Jason mcgee it would take a good 5 to beat them boys...as well as players on pitch it was areas they were playing that annoyed people sone of things happening were shocking couldn't believe my eyes ...McHugh as well seen this and flipped he had enough"
So the naomh Conal full back line of ultan d,?aj Gallagher and Kevin Mc gettigan Are our saviours now, you are a complete bluffer sure Mc brearty took aj to the cleaners.? I know now you know nothing about football sorry for telling you it bluntly but I have no time for bluffers.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 06/09/2021 13:51:56    2378217

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Replying To rorysboys:  "So the naomh Conal full back line of ultan d,?aj Gallagher and Kevin Mc gettigan Are our saviours now, you are a complete bluffer sure Mc brearty took aj to the cleaners.? I know now you know nothing about football sorry for telling you it bluntly but I have no time for bluffers."
Serious anger issues

eunans4ever (Donegal) - Posts: 1595 - 06/09/2021 14:54:58    2378238

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Replying To eunans4ever:  "Serious anger issues"
Talking about bluffers.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2410 - 06/09/2021 15:13:39    2378246

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Replying To rorysboys:  "Talking about bluffers."
I never said for 1 minute any of them 3 should start i said they should be considered...you are twisting things for your own agenda here ....the glenties boys would set bonner an example, they are disciplined and do their job some of them worth a shot to have in panel...something our mgt needs to see rather than playing flair players in defence but to be honest our mgt too long in tooth to learn this...listen at end of day you aren't seeing the big picture that we are regressing badly under current mgt but hey we will give them your 2 years to see where it goes...but you will remember that "I told you"

marty234 (Donegal) - Posts: 158 - 06/09/2021 19:04:40    2378318

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